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Keep the discussion to in-game drugs please.
Keep the discussion to in-game drugs please.
I, personally, love that we can talk about real-world murder, kidnapping and even capitalism, but not real-world drinking of alcohol. Oh,Polish Law. You so rock.
I'm against any gameplay penalties for drug use that interfere with said gameplay. You can't really replicate the weird torture of being an addict ( IN THE GAME NOT THE REAL WORLD) so trying seems kind of clumsy.
A drug bonus I have no problem with, and then maybe an audio cue of your heartbeat getting faster and faster and faster..and then you fall over. You wake up in NC Crisis Medical where an unsmiling Nurse informs you that you now owe them 2500eb for the deductible on your new Pacesetter 2000 Sportsheart.
You never see a Doctor in Crisis Medical. Ever. No matter how many times you end up there. Always Nurses, Paramedics, attendants, lab workers, and so on. Worrying, really.
I'm against any gameplay penalties for drug use that interfere with said gameplay. You can't really replicate the weird torture of being an addict ( IN THE GAME NOT THE REAL WORLD) so trying seems kind of clumsy.
A drug bonus I have no problem with, and then maybe an audio cue of your heartbeat getting faster and faster and faster..and then you fall over. You wake up in NC Crisis Medical where an unsmiling Nurse informs you that you now owe them 2500eb for the deductible on your new Pacesetter 2000 Sportsheart.
You never see a Doctor in Crisis Medical. Ever. No matter how many times you end up there. Always Nurses, Paramedics, attendants, lab workers, and so on. Worrying, really.
Somebody at some point suggested visual effects while under the influence. They tried AV effects in TW2 for certain kinds of potions (i.e. drugs) and for the DM sword set - it got annoying very, very fast. And some of the most popular mods are those to remove such effects.
There are certain kinds of balancing effect that work, others don't. Reducing some stats while boosting others is OK, or a hangover-style penalty, but I hope they stay well away from AV effects.
I think a wildly increasing heartrate after your tenth dose of Black Lace could be quite a freaky experience. Avoiding visual effects, the only on-screen indicator I would like would be what happens if you check your Biomonitor and see the red graphs spiking everywhere. How far was that Trauma Team?
And so you decide to sprint for the med center and all of a sudden everything turns black and white and you drop on your face.... Only to wake up in the med center, as you said before, ridiculously in debt for the exploded heart they just replaced. lol
Taking drugs in game shouldn't affect plot, decisions and conversations too much. Drugs shouldn't be given too significant role... Waste of resources and over complicating things.
But it would be nice to see some nice visual effects after taking some drugs, persisting for like up to 5 minutes. For example blurry, wasted zooming in and out vision and distorted sound or all lights blurring and stretching in strings, or some hallucinations, or slow motion feeling and muffled sound etc
As drawbacks there could be some flashbacks during combat from psychedelics, sudden twitches when u try to aim and shoot from stimulants, cold turkey / drowsiness / slowed reactions from opioids/depressants etc.... (i feel like just reducing stats would be kinda uninteresting and primitive but oh well...)
But it would be nice to see some nice visual effects after taking some drugs, persisting for like up to 5 minutes. For example blurry, wasted zooming in and out vision and distorted sound or all lights blurring and stretching in strings, or some hallucinations, or slow motion feeling and muffled sound etc
As drawbacks there could be some flashbacks during combat from psychedelics, sudden twitches when u try to aim and shoot from stimulants, cold turkey / drowsiness / slowed reactions from opioids/depressants etc.... (i feel like just reducing stats would be kinda uninteresting and primitive but oh well...)
Hm. Sounds a little like some of the suggestions in the Cyberpsychosis thread.
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Hm. Cyberpsychosis *and* drug hallucincations / flashbacks. Could have potential...
How about drug hallucinations during a braindance of a cyberpsycho
Probably cheaper and easier to just saw off the top of your skull and then start headbanging until your motor functions give out. Same effect, more mess, less debt.How about drug hallucinations during a braindance of a cyberpsycho
Bah humbug. You all laugh at cyberpsychosis! I say it is the next step... You give some low animal a peak into the way a human see's things, of course they would go crazy! So much they don't understand hitting them at once... It's to much.... but some of them would learn to accept it... they wouldn't be as freaked out... they will survive.
Cyberpsychosis is the same thing. Like giving humans the insight of the gods, they couldn't handle it. Some though can. And they will be the future! They look into the abyss, and when it looks back, they just smile and laugh.
Ah ha, but the trailer that started all this mess reminds us that this great epiphany as you call it generally comes at the price of a lot of messy meat dissection at the mall... Come ot think of it... I'm a hot cyborg lady, going down the street to get a futuristic soda of some kind.... In my underwear. Why am I just wearing my underwear? Holy crap, this is one of those dreams where I forget to put on clothes before I leave my apartment. Okay, just gotta wake up. Stupid implants making me think all kinds of weirdne--DAMNIT I'M NOT DREAMING!!!!! I'm awake and I forgot to put on clothes again! Damnit! What the hell do I do now? They are all staring at me! They've seen me with hardly nothing on! Every single one of these people is probably carrying no less than 3 cameras a piece! I GOT IT! Cyberpsychosis. I'll just pop out my rippers.... there we go. Now everybody'll pay attention to only that.... Crap, they are running. Better make this look good.
WOW!!! WOW, humans are filled with a LOT of blood! Holy crap! Aw, Jeez... Here come the news people and... AH! What the hell!? DID YOU JUST SHOOT ME IN THE FACE!!?!?!? YOU SON OF A BITCH!!! I HATE COPS!!! I HATE EM!!! PIGGY BASTARDS!!!! .....Aw crap. There's one standing right behind me, isn't there?
I believe this is her still holding on to the want of being human... if she just let that go .. and realized that her current form is superior she would be OK. Or maybe not superior ... just different... but look at her... and her Borg body. It is clearly human... unfortunately she still holds onto that humanity, she still wants to be accepted by the fleshiest... and doesn't give into the fact that she has become something else.... it is this that drives her to lose her control. She has rejected her cyber, because in her mind she is alienated by it. She still wishes to relate to the fleshies.
If she would just come to me and my following, we could teach her to accept her new self, and to keep control. Yet it seems that not all are suited for this.
If she would just come to me and my following, we could teach her to accept her new self, and to keep control. Yet it seems that not all are suited for this.
Like: once an addict rule. No Cool check to avoid buying, because RPGs should not decide for you. But if you're addicted, you kick, and you try again, you're in full addiction withdrawal swing again.
Easy505
Don't like: making drugs just to make gameplay trippy. They don't need the heat from that.
My additions: Would like addiction being hard to kick, and require significant in game time. You're likely to fail any urgent missions you're on if you need to detox in the middle.
Would like addiction to become obvious when a person first misses their next hit, not as soon as they become addicted, to make it harder for people to save-scum it.
Would like rehab to become sequentially longer the more times you do it. If you quit and go "never again" it is an absolute rule you can cling to. If you've broken that rule post rehab a couple of times you start eroding your belief in yourself.
Would like people who use drugs to pick up a reputation for it, with pros and cons.
Easy505
Don't like: making drugs just to make gameplay trippy. They don't need the heat from that.
My additions: Would like addiction being hard to kick, and require significant in game time. You're likely to fail any urgent missions you're on if you need to detox in the middle.
Would like addiction to become obvious when a person first misses their next hit, not as soon as they become addicted, to make it harder for people to save-scum it.
Would like rehab to become sequentially longer the more times you do it. If you quit and go "never again" it is an absolute rule you can cling to. If you've broken that rule post rehab a couple of times you start eroding your belief in yourself.
Would like people who use drugs to pick up a reputation for it, with pros and cons.
Ooo. I like your suggestions, but ^^ I really like this idea.
Getting the shakes or going through withdrawal while in a firefight?? Would make things VERY interesting...