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[GENERAL] Ingredients and Potions discussion

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username_2073100

Senior user
#121
Feb 8, 2008
I see. It is just kind of weird to see any word ending in "-tech" (the suffix actually retains its "technological" meaning in Russian too) in a fantasy world. I know it's just a name and has nothing to do with technology; I was just a bit puzzled when I saw the word on the forums at first...
 
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spaceritual

Senior user
#122
Feb 13, 2008
Tlazolteotl said:
Hmm .. I found that brickmaker in Vaska's hut after getting as much progress as I could in "A Lost Lamb", and refusing the orens he offers you for searching.But then .. I haven't found a use for perfume.
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The perfume is for a mini quest in Murky Waters , a girl asks you if you can make some
 
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username_2073100

Senior user
#123
Feb 13, 2008
My own little bit of potion/oil experience:- Blizzard becomes useless after you get a few levels under your belt and become more of a threat on the battlefield. It is quite a lousy potion, really, once you get a handle on combat; everything slows down including your controls! Don't mix too much of it, and by level 20 you should forget about it.- The only oil worth putting on your Silver Sword is Argentia. Tailoring oils to monsters is a waste of time and inventory slots. Go for "uberdamage to everyone" effect.- The best oils for your steel sword are Crinfrid and Brown oils. For regular battles, go for Crinfrid because it reliably disables your opponents and gives you a chance to pound on them unpunished. Brown oil is great for human boss battles, because bosses don't succumb to Pain (at least in my experience) - so instead, make them bleed for extra Damage over Time effect. Hanged Man's Venom may also be an option for DoT, but I haven't experimented much with it.- At any given time you should have in your sack: * Swallow * Tawny Owl * CatThe above three are absolutely essential. Swallow and Owl affect your regeneration (which means difference between reloading and surviving by running the hell away and regenerating, and without Cat you will have trouble in dark(er) places. * Golden Oriole * White Honey * Wives' TearsThese are your "toxicology first aid kit". In some cases, Geralt needs to dump toxicity FAST (if for no other reason than to save your eyes from popping out from all the red flashing). Poison can slowly, but surely send you to your grave. And intoxication has a way of sucking badly... plus, Wives' Tears is a great "cheat" for winning drinking games. Stop drinking midway through the game, drink the Tears and go back to boozing - your opponent will konk out long before you do. * Maribor Forest * Full Moon * Willow * WolverineThe "Ah canna' dee it!" set. Take more damage, cast more Signs, and, since every boss and sub-boss just LOOOVES to stun Geralt, give them and their attempts a finger. And since there's always a chance that they'll beat the crap out of you, give yourself a chance to snatch the victory out of the jaws of defeat.- Optional and highly useful potions: * Wolf * Shrike * Petri's PhilterGreat for when you need just a little extra edge, particularly in crowd control department, but not terribly necessary.- Disappointing potions: * Blackblood: if a vampire is biting you, you're doing something wrong. You probably screwed up crowd control, and while you were fighting one, another snuck up on you. Or you let them stun you. Anyway, a witcher worth his salt should not be bitten often enough to need this potion. * White Raffard's Decoction: ultra-toxic yet restores pathetically little. Easier to pop Quen, Yrden and run away to regenerate. If you HAVE to use it, have a White Honey on standby. * Thunderbolt: instead of making yourself vulnerable and taking on extra toxicity, put an oil on your blade. Lasts longer and doesn't fill up the green bar. * Blizzard: see above. * Bindweed: maybe I haven't found any super-acidic monsters yet? * Kiss: I got bled a couple times but the effect fell off quite quickly and I healed right through it. Seems a waste of inventory slot.- Potions "on steroids": make 'em even better with Albedo/Nigredo/Rubedo. Good combinations are: * Rubedo Swallow: heal faster than Wolverine. * Albedo Tawny Owl: drink it first for less toxicity. * Nigredo Wolf: two words - "more cowbell" * Rubedo Cat: for lesser-difficulty caves, this saves you the necessity to drink a Swallow.Hope it helps someone...
 
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planewalker

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#124
Feb 14, 2008
That's a great guide, Damar Stiehl, worthy of a sticky post. :) May I only correct you with the fact that Bindweed is extremely useful in the swamp, as Blodezuigers do acid splash damage when they die, and therefore groups of those critters can get rather dangerous. Bindweed makes that damage negligible.Also, Black Blood isn't too useful, but I use it for sheer fun. Drink my blood and die, vampire! ]:->
 
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nmcspadden

Senior user
#125
Feb 14, 2008
Actually, Damar, when you think about it, it has quite a bit to do with "technology."The Salamandra are using alchemical procedures and ingredients used to create substances and genetic mutations that are partially as a result of stolen arcane secrets (which they obtained in the prologue / tutorial). In the overall vein of the game's timeline and the environment within which it is set, the work the Salamandra are doing to produce fisstech is very advanced indeed. High technology is simply defined as something which is beyond 'common usage' - i.e. most of the population is rather unfamiliar with it.In 1985, this would be computers.In 1992, this would be the internet.In 2007, this would be the Large Hadron Collider for smashing particles together.Most of the people you run into during the game would have absolutely no concept of producing such an alchemical substance, as alchemy is mostly limited to tradesmen, herbalists, and of course, the Witchers. As such, because it's such a unique and rare skill, it falls into the definable category of "advanced technology." It's simply a different form of machination.Regardless, it's entirely possible that the linguistic construction is accidental. As no one seems to have any idea what the first half of the word "fiss" would mean in any language, it's entirely possible the word was made up somewhat randomly because it sounded right. I don't know what the original word was and how to pronounce it in Polish, so I personally can't provide any explanations based on phonology or phonetic association.
 
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fgrobste

Senior user
#126
Feb 16, 2008
so anyone been using bombs? what kind and how they useful ?
 
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xhan

Senior user
#127
Feb 16, 2008
Bombs do damage and essentially replicate effects that signs have for most purposes, you can cause fear, blindness and poison people in addition to blowing them up.
 
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fgrobste

Senior user
#128
Feb 16, 2008
how do you use them? put them like potions?
 
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username_2071599

Senior user
#129
Feb 16, 2008
Yes, you use them just like that. Geralt throws them under his feet, you don't choose where to throw them.Which raises some questions, but whatever...
 
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fgrobste

Senior user
#130
Feb 16, 2008
lol
 
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aqtai

Senior user
#131
Feb 17, 2008
Just out of curiosity, what are the "unknown herbs" near the Vizima hospital? There are the two hellebore plants and the berbercane trees, but what are the rest?
 
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planewalker

Senior user
#132
Feb 17, 2008
Aqtai said:
Just out of curiosity, what are the "unknown herbs" near the Vizima hospital? There are the two hellebore plants and the berbercane trees, but what are the rest?
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There's a lot of Verbena stalks in the hospital garden. I don't think the verbena is a part of the Field Plants book. Maybe you can find it in Druid's Herbarium?
 
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pomor

Senior user
#133
Feb 17, 2008
More like Swamp Plants book, I think.Quberith Albedo - quite rare combination.
 
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aqtai

Senior user
#134
Feb 17, 2008
They must be verbena. Thanks for the replies everyone. They're not in the swamp plants book by the way, I've read it.Edit:Does anyone know what book they're in?
 
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adalekstazchuck

Senior user
#135
Feb 18, 2008
Froderick said:
Actually, Damar, when you think about it, it has quite a bit to do with "technology."The Salamandra are using alchemical procedures and ingredients used to create substances and genetic mutations that are partially as a result of stolen arcane secrets (which they obtained in the prologue / tutorial). In the overall vein of the game's timeline and the environment within which it is set, the work the Salamandra are doing to produce fisstech is very advanced indeed. High technology is simply defined as something which is beyond 'common usage' - i.e. most of the population is rather unfamiliar with it.In 1985, this would be computers.In 1992, this would be the internet.In 2007, this would be the Large Hadron Collider for smashing particles together.Most of the people you run into during the game would have absolutely no concept of producing such an alchemical substance, as alchemy is mostly limited to tradesmen, herbalists, and of course, the Witchers. As such, because it's such a unique and rare skill, it falls into the definable category of "advanced technology." It's simply a different form of machination.Regardless, it's entirely possible that the linguistic construction is accidental. As no one seems to have any idea what the first half of the word "fiss" would mean in any language, it's entirely possible the word was made up somewhat randomly because it sounded right. I don't know what the original word was and how to pronounce it in Polish, so I personally can't provide any explanations based on phonology or phonetic association.
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ale jajca, Froderick se bloga zalozyl :p
 
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username_2074185

Senior user
#136
Feb 19, 2008
in Czech its Fisstech too
 
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hacknomad

Senior user
#137
Feb 20, 2008
Aqtai said:
They must be verbena. Thanks for the replies everyone. They're not in the swamp plants book by the way, I've read it.Edit:Does anyone know what book they're in?
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Book: Druid's HerbariumCost: 600 orensBe well
 
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thirteenth

Senior user
#138
Feb 22, 2008
I understand that there are special ingredients such as albedo and rubedo that can dominate a certain formula. My question is, do all potions have different ingredient-dominant effects? Or are there only certain formulae that are affected by certain ingredients? Like for example, and correct me if I am wrong, a rubedo-dominant (or negrido) blizzard adds three hours worth of +10% attack damage. Is there a resource that discuss this topic? (Like listing down each dominance effect for each potion?) ???
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#139
Feb 22, 2008
There are some infos about alchemy in the bonus content guide. If I remember, the nigredo dominant provides some regeneration in vitality. So Rubedo and Albedo provides other advantages. You can only experiment. Read the guide for further information, you can download from the site fi you have a registered copy. Take care
 
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planewalker

Senior user
#140
Feb 22, 2008
I'm not sure I understand your question... ???Albedo -- reduced toxicity (works for subsequent potions too, as long as the effect is active)Rubedo -- increased vitality regeneration rateNigredo -- slightly stronger attackYou can make an "advanced" potion with one of the above effects with any formula you choose, except maybe White Gull and mutagens. You can make a Swallow with Rubedo dominant, or Albedo dominant, or Nigredo dominant, depending on what ingredients you have handy. The best way to prepare for a difficult battle is to make three potions, each having one effect. However, more instances of the same effect do not stack.
 
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