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DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#1
Sep 16, 2015
Generalized Questions that I am really wanting to know.

Okay, before I start asking my questions, please keep in mind if these questions have been answered somewhere else, please don't flame me with the usual rhetoric of "It's already been discussed" or "If you would have done a search....." or any rude remarks, just give a guy a break and answer them here. I'm a 44 y.o. male that has been into console/(Somewhat)PC gaming since the Atari 2600 was my first console and the Texas Instruments TI 99 was my first home computer. While yes I have done several searches on this forum & am still quite amazed how "Generalized" & antiquated the search systems are on forum boards. Let's say one types in the words "What is the coin cap in this game" search result will give you every thread that uses each word in that search. And if you try to change it to exact match, you get no results. With that being said, here are my questions, which I don't think are that many.

1. What is the coin cap limit in game, while I have learned that it ranges from 65,000-78,000. Then why do I have 163,900 coins (Screen shot will be provided below)? I am a person that saves everything in game now that there are storage chests, and have sold off quite a bit and I still have a lot now in storage to sell, but I am at a point where there is no need to sell off anything. And before anyone asks or comments, NO I did not cheat to get that much coin and items. I am on the XBox One system, so no modding allowed there and I do not actively hunt down and try to find any game glitches.

2. I am currently lvl 56 & am now getting ready to do the Missing person quest (lvl 46) NG+ I am trying to slow down my leveling so that way it is not overkill when I get towards then end. So my question is, when the HoS expansion is released, which save game am I supposed to use? The save before the NG+ start (I have saved 2 copies this time) or will it be after the NG+?

3. Since Geralt is from School of the Wolf, why is his Wolven Armor/Swords the same as Ursane(Bear) school? Shouldn't it be the more powerful of all? And where is the Wolven Crossbow? I know Vesemir introduces it to Geralt at the beginning of the game, but when the Devs. started introducing us to the Wolven gear, why wasn't that put in?

4. Speaking of crossbows, Why didn't they level up in NG+?

5. Has anybody found the Ursane & Nekker formulas? Only one I have ever gotten is Drowner Pheromone potion.

6. Has anything been mentioned (From the devs) about the unrealistic unevenness of vendor pricing being fixed? As in example : Potion of Clearance from vendor 1000 coins, Sell back to vender, most I have seen had been for 165....if my math is correct, that is only 16.5% of the selling price. While I can understand that the "Merchant" should make money off the product, the capitalist way, that math is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. it should be at least 50% of the item's price.

I think that's it, now for the screenshot of my amount of coin taken from my phone:


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I just remembered another question that I wanted to ask. How is it that my game saves have a different time and date when saving. Did the devs forget to set it to where it would recognize the time zone that the player lives in? it's exactly 4 hours ahead of me....before anyone asks, yes my XBox is set to my timezone. This is the only game that has a different time/date stamp on my saves
 

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iCake

iCake

Senior user
#2
Sep 16, 2015
1) There is no cap on how much coin you can have now. Well, maybe something around 9.999.999, but that's an unrealistic number to accumalate without cheating anyway. There was an 'interesting' mechanic in this game prior to 1.05 I think, might be wrong though. Anyway, prior to some version of the game there was a 67K level cap, if you'd managed to accumate more than that you coin would have been reset the next time you fast travel or load a save. Luckily, this was patched up long ago.

2) You can use either of your saves to play HoS. The quests for the expansion will be 30+ in NG, and be scaled accordingly in NG+, so 60+. Considering the fact, that the level cap is 70, I'd not worry about getting to OP for the expansion quests if you choose to continue your NG+.

3) Back when the Wolven set had just been released, it mastercrafted pieces were significantly more powerful than any other mastercrafted pieces from the other schools. It was due to the fact that the best wolven items required level 34 and the other schools needed around 29-30. With 1.07 they rebalanced that, now all MC witcher gear requires level 34, therefore they have the same basic stats, like armor and damage. But they all have different bonuses. As for your example, Wolven swords give you a bonus to adrenaline gain, sign intensity, add a chance to bleed the target, increase your crit chance. The Ursine swords boost adrenaline gain, critical damage and critical chance.

As for the crossbows... The thing is they shouldn't be in the game whatsoever. The witchers, at least those belonging to the Wolven School don't use them, according to the lore established by the books. You can even tell Vesemir something like "You're breaking the old ways?" when he introduces that crossbow to you.

4) Same as the above, they aren't really supposed to be in this game due to the lore breaking factor. So the developers chose the lesser evil here. They added crossbows, but they didn't want you to use it as a damage dealer, they only wanted you to use it for tactical purposes, like shoot down that flying forktail. That's why no scaling in NG+, as they still surve their original purporse in NG+.

5) There is nothing like that. The drowner pheromone potion is only there due to the fact that it's a quest item for a contract on Skellige. Don't know if you realize which one so don't want to spoil it for you.

6) Nothing has been mentioned here. The economy stays as it stays I suppose. Again talking the Witcherverse lore you're supposed to be short on money all the time, so I think it's their way of ensuring that, hell, that's probably the case for that money reset mechanic I mentioned earlier.

7) Same thing here, I'm on Xbox One as well, this is not a big deal though.
 
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DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#3
Sep 16, 2015
iCake said:
5) There is nothing like that. The drowner feromone potion is only there due to the fact that it's a quest item for a contract on Skellige. Don't know if you realize which one so don't want to spoil it for you.
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First off, thank you for your time in answering my questions. As for my asking about the pheromones, The Witcher 3 is the first game that I have ever bought a "Official Strategy Guide" from Prima. Because I wanted to take advantage of all side quests that are not listed or show up on the quest screen list. So according to Prima at the time of printing (Which mine is the 1st edition I bought w/the game) they list the other phenomenons Bear & Nekker. Hence my question.

As for the crossbow, I use it only for defensive reasons. So it is PITA to hit a siren 2-3 times while sitting in a boat to keep it from damaging your boat. I also use it with exploding bolts to ignite the green poisonous gas or the Dragon's Dream bomb, So a little boost would be nice.

And before Witcher 3, I never knew that there were books out there. I got hooked to the Witcher series when Xbox live gave away King's Assassins free for gold members. Been hooked since. And why I am in love with Triss and not Yennifer. But believe you me, I will be searching on Amazon for the books.

I suffer from a form of OCD so the timestamp for game saves annoys the OCD in me, lol
 
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DaSmas

Rookie
#4
Sep 16, 2015
Prima guides suck imho and/or it was cut from the game. Plus do you want to be rubbing bear pheromones all over yourself? :p

There are crossbows for those school who used them. All the different schools used different methods and crossbows arent really something the school of the wolf used.
 
iCake

iCake

Senior user
#5
Sep 16, 2015
Hmm, that piece of info on nekker and ursine fpheromones is new to me. I was speaking in the player's hindsight about the existence of those things. I completed the game 3 times and I've yet to find those pheromones so I assumed they're non-existant. Anyway, if the guide claims they are in the game, maybe someone else have found them, I'd recommend searching the Internet for the info about that or waiting for someone to respond here. Alternativvely, you might take another look at the guide, maybe it says when and where you can find them.

As for the books, I'd say go for them. I'm in the middle of them right now and I must say: "Damned if it's not captivating". You can also refer to the wikipedia to see which books make up the saga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher

Don't ignore the witcher stories though.
 
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sv3672

Forum veteran
#6
Sep 16, 2015
iCake said:
6) Nothing has been mentioned here. The economy stays as it stays I suppose. Again talking the Witcherverse lore you're supposed to be short on money all the time, so I think it's their way of ensuring that, hell, that's probably the case for that money reset mechanic I mentioned earlier.
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The reset on >65K was a bug, probably because the game used an unsigned 16-bit integer (0 to 65535) to store the amount of money the player has, and the developers may have thought no one would collect that much anyway. But the vendor pricing is intentional, if it was changed like the OP suggests, then players could easily make too much money. Other games often implement similarly "unfair" pricing for the same reason.
 
DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#7
Sep 16, 2015
iCake said:
Hmm, that piece of info on nekker and ursine fpheromones is new to me. I was speaking in the player's hindsight about the existence of those things. I completed the game 3 times and I've yet to find those pheromones so I assumed they're non-existant. Anyway, if the guide claims they are in the game, maybe someone else have found them, I'd recommend searching the Internet for the info about that or waiting for someone to respond here. Alternativvely, you might take another look at the guide, maybe it says when and where you can find them.

As for the books, I'd say go for them. I'm in the middle of them right now and I must say: "Damned if it's not captivating". You can also refer to the wikipedia to see which books make up the saga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher

Don't ignore the witcher stories though.
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The guide doesn't say where to find the potions for either Bear & Nekker. But that still doesn't mean that the book is correct. Several things I have noticed that is wrong in the book.
1. They have the normal Cavalry Saddle as 80 for stamina while we all know it's the Zerrikanian that is 80 & not 60 in the book. And I also noted something else wrong, but because I am tired, I can not think of it currently.

sv3672 said:
The reset on >65K was a bug, probably because the game used an unsigned 16-bit integer (0 to 65535) to store the amount of money the player has, and the developers may have thought no one would collect that much anyway. But the vendor pricing is intentional, if it was changed like the OP suggests, then players could easily make too much money. Other games often implement similarly "unfair" pricing for the same reason.
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While I completely understand with why, it still so be a little closer, or at least have the vendors/merchants restocked with coins in about a week game time. As I stated, I don't need the coins, but I also do not want to take everything out of the storage chest and then drop everything on the floor. I worked hard on this game, and according to XBox One, I have logged 1010 hours+ on this game. (Don't have many games yet on the console, been mainly waiting for the backwards compatibility, that and waiting for Fallout 4 Pipboy Edition that I was one of the few lucky ones to get it.).

I sure hope TW2 will be among the backwards compatibility, would love to have the save game from it transfer to TW3.
 
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tiamatloc

Rookie
#8
Sep 16, 2015
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
While yes I have done several searches on this forum & am still quite amazed how "Generalized" & antiquated the search systems are on forum boards. Let's say one types in the words "What is the coin cap in this game" search result will give you every thread that uses each word in that search. And if you try to change it to exact match, you get no results.
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Totally off-topic but I couldn't resist.

Text searching is a very, very complicated affair and forums tend to use fairly ancient methods which as you say are "try to find posts that have one or more of these words" or "match the phrase exactly". Don't even get me started on how bad that works with American spellings vs UK spellings (wot, this American forum doesn't have a single use of the word "colour"??). To implement better searching for an MSSQL back-end you have to set up "full text search indexes" which help cut out the "noise" results by matching patterns of words but these are a bit of a dark art to anybody who hasn't already used them. It is more common to use MySQL as a database back-end for forums (it is free) and that uses similar indexes but in a different way. Both require your database queries to be written in very specific ways which are only relevant to the specific database back end you use. I have not used the MySQL text search indexes in years but I didn't find them to be great back then and the MSSQL equivalent is not great either.

In short forum admins would have to do some extra work in the database to make search work better and if they didn't do that search would not work at all so the makers of forums go for the "low hanging fruit" which is the basic functionality you see on pretty much all forums. It saves the people running forums a lot of headaches.

*lowers gaze back to Sphinx search library tuning*
 
DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#9
Sep 18, 2015
tiamatloc said:
Totally off-topic but I couldn't resist.

Text searching is a very, very complicated affair and forums tend to use fairly ancient methods which as you say are "try to find posts that have one or more of these words" or "match the phrase exactly". Don't even get me started on how bad that works with American spellings vs UK spellings (wot, this American forum doesn't have a single use of the word "colour"??). To implement better searching for an MSSQL back-end you have to set up "full text search indexes" which help cut out the "noise" results by matching patterns of words but these are a bit of a dark art to anybody who hasn't already used them. It is more common to use MySQL as a database back-end for forums (it is free) and that uses similar indexes but in a different way. Both require your database queries to be written in very specific ways which are only relevant to the specific database back end you use. I have not used the MySQL text search indexes in years but I didn't find them to be great back then and the MSSQL equivalent is not great either.

In short forum admins would have to do some extra work in the database to make search work better and if they didn't do that search would not work at all so the makers of forums go for the "low hanging fruit" which is the basic functionality you see on pretty much all forums. It saves the people running forums a lot of headaches.

*lowers gaze back to Sphinx search library tuning*
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Not off topic at all, because I had mentioned about the "Search" method in forums.


tiamatloc said:
Don't even get me started on how bad that works with American spellings vs UK spellings (wot, this American forum doesn't have a single use of the word "colour"??).
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As for that, I have always stated that us American's have bastardized the Queen's English, but it's amazing, being a avid fan/watcher of Doctor Who and Top Gear(Thank God for the BBC America channel!) that they call a 4 door car a Saloon & we call it a Sedan. Why is the hood of a car called a Bonnet and not the roof of the car? Or the trunk of the car is called a Boot, shouldn't the tires be called Boot? I mean, they are what touches the ground for the propulsion of said car. LOL Don't mind me, I'm just rambling.

tiamatloc said:
*lowers gaze back to Sphinx search library tuning*
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Good to hear that you are using that kind of library and not the library that is in the "Silence in the Library" episode of Doctor Who

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DaSmas said:
Prima guides suck imho and/or it was cut from the game. Plus do you want to be rubbing bear pheromones all over yourself? :p

There are crossbows for those school who used them. All the different schools used different methods and crossbows aren't really something the school of the wolf used.
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Like I said, this was my first ever strategy guide I have gotten for any game I have ever owned. But since I knew that this game was going to be massive with a ton of Side Quests/Contracts, I figured it wouldn't hurt to get it. But I do agree with the suckyness of the Guide Book. Misspells, listing of wrong things which I said in a above post. It has taught me why I don't buy any type of guide.

As for the crossbow, Yes The School of the Wolf does not use them, but Vesimer gave one to Geralt, so I was just figuring that CDRP would create some kind of back story when they gave us the Wolven set to include it's own crossbow.
 
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TWISTEDOUTLAW

Forum regular
#10
Sep 18, 2015
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
First off, thank you for your time in answering my questions. As for my asking about the pheromones, The Witcher 3 is the first game that I have ever bought a "Official Strategy Guide" from Prima. Because I wanted to take advantage of all side quests that are not listed or show up on the quest screen list. So according to Prima at the time of printing (Which mine is the 1st edition I bought w/the game) they list the other phenomenons Bear & Nekker. Hence my question.

As for the crossbow, I use it only for defensive reasons. So it is PITA to hit a siren 2-3 times while sitting in a boat to keep it from damaging your boat. I also use it with exploding bolts to ignite the green poisonous gas or the Dragon's Dream bomb, So a little boost would be nice.

And before Witcher 3, I never knew that there were books out there. I got hooked to the Witcher series when Xbox live gave away King's Assassins free for gold members. Been hooked since. And why I am in love with Triss and not Yennifer. But believe you me, I will be searching on Amazon for the books.

I suffer from a form of OCD so the timestamp for game saves annoys the OCD in me, lol
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Assassins of Kings. I just had to. I am sorry.
 
DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#11
Sep 18, 2015
TWISTEDOUTLAW said:
Assassins of Kings. I just had to. I am sorry.
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I know, I was just too damn lazy to correct myself. My OCD is bad, but it wasn't bad enough to bug me about the title,lol
 
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garethwilliams1987

Rookie
#12
Sep 21, 2015
Hey @DontBlnkBadWolf, valid questions but the problem is this game gets patched all the time and with a written guide you have to realise as patches come out for the game some things may change. most people have answered your questions. My tips would be dismantle items more than you sell, it makes sense as crafting materials are always nice to have and they have no weight. This would bring your money down (money is easy to come by). I have about 70,000 on my NG+ but honestly its more than enough. I can easily buy out a herbalist of stock and regain the money back in no time.

As for quests some are random and won't pop up all the time, the game is about exploring mostly. I would say try not to worry about the story line to much and do quests in order of level. you will probably come across quests not mentioned in your book.

Crossbows are only used by bear and cat schools, most likely because of all the psirens on skellige and the cat as they're a band of assassins. however crossbow is just used to shoot down flying creatures. doesn't matter if its a level 1 crossbow or a higher one. some have perks and if you're trophy hunting the higher one is a benefit.

merchants can easily run out of money (as you probably know) so the buying/selling works out well to prevent them from having no money all the time but again I always dismantle what I don't need, I rarely sell anything (unless its complete junk) and if you loot enough you will get the potions you need. Chests do not have fixed items so best thing to do is loot as much as you can and buy as diagrams and recipes so you don't miss anything.

They're my tips anyway. HoS is going to be level 30 on normal playthrough and level 60 on new game plus so try not to reach level 70, take your time and enjoy the game.
 
DontBlnkBadWolf

DontBlnkBadWolf

Senior user
#13
Sep 21, 2015
garethwilliams1987 said:
They're my tips anyway. HoS is going to be level 30 on normal playthrough and level 60 on new game plus so try not to reach level 70, take your time and enjoy the game.
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Thank you for the info. But I am curious about where you got your info on the HoS being lvl 60 on NG+? My understanding from CDPR is that it is going to be lvl 30 after NG+ because you can't lvl past 70
 
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iCeDMeTaL

Rookie
#14
Sep 22, 2015
Here I have a question. I want to know how some guy using CDPR's own toolkit create an amazing mod that jacks up the lighting? I mean, it's a completely different game for me, and I know it's not the pot, my ****'s not THAT good. When I walk into a forest at dusk, I looked over and I'm like, do I really want to enter this dark creepy forest? So I want to know why it took so long after release to see the game look this good, and why the devs couldn't have put it in the game as some kind of ultra option?
 
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garethwilliams1987

Rookie
#15
Sep 22, 2015
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
Thank you for the info. But I am curious about where you got your info on the HoS being lvl 60 on NG+? My understanding from CDPR is that it is going to be lvl 30 after NG+ because you can't lvl past 70
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No worries buddy, information came from Marcin and also some game sites which have had discussions with CDPR. It is level 30 for those on first playthrough and level 60 on NG+. The quest line is not going to be absolutely huge and I can imagine the highest quest level being only 65 (educated guess considering its only a short quest line). I don't think CDPR will increase the level cap until they release their next expansion which is going to be longer (20 hours). Also HoS is not a 10 hour questline, its new areas to explore and new quests and gear etc which totals up to 10 hours worth of gameplay.

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iCeDMeTaL said:
Here I have a question. I want to know how some guy using CDPR's own toolkit create an amazing mod that jacks up the lighting? I mean, it's a completely different game for me, and I know it's not the pot, my ****'s not THAT good. When I walk into a forest at dusk, I looked over and I'm like, do I really want to enter this dark creepy forest? So I want to know why it took so long after release to see the game look this good, and why the devs couldn't have put it in the game as some kind of ultra option?
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It's like the mod for GTA 5, some pc's wouldn't be able to run those graphics and also they will use the same engine that the consoles use as well. It's just a way for developers to ensure their game runs on the majority rather than the few. Most modders increase textures and lighting for games but again not all computers and consoles can handle it so in the developers eyes its not a practical choice to make. The way I see it even at base level the witcher 3 looks gorgeous.
 
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