Geralt and the Wild Hunt (Major Story Spoiler from Iorweth path)

[Arius87]

Geralt and the Wild Hunt (Major Story Spoiler from Iorweth path)

Major Spoiler below


Is Geralt part of the Wild hunt? According to Cynthia (The nilfgaardian sorceress) Geralt is part of it and the only known human (respectivly mutant) who survived this. Now what does this supposed to mean? “Survived” is a strange word in that case because Geralt could be part of the Wild Hunt and also have a solid body. Just like the Wild Hunt who can change between the dimensions in ghost and solid form. So ultimately he could no longer belong to this world. Maybe the main quest in TW3 is how Geralt is up to regain his humanity?

And whats about Aramil. This is a person who flees from the Wild Hunt for centuries.
(This monologue of Geralt starts in Loc Muinne right after you pick up the sword called Addan Deith with which you are supposed to “understand” the Wild Hunt.) Maybe we meet this Aramil in TW3, and he can give us some answers. That also means for Ciri that she will be hunted for all her life because the king of the Wild Hunt is desperate for the elder blood. I think that this may one of the reasons why Ciri is returning in TW3. She needs a bit of help to fight the Wild Hunt. If Geralt wants to save Ciri he must erase the Wild Hunt once and for all. And to achieve this he must enter the other dimension where the Wild Hunt lives.

 

[MarjanB]

Geralt became a part of the Wild Hunt after he made an agreenment with the king of the WH - him in exchange for Yeniffer. Then his body got possesed by the wraiths of the hunt, and his escape frot the hunt is a mistery that hopefully will get a conclusion in the third part.

I don't think that Aramil is alive. Hearin his monologue we get to the conclusion that Loc Muine was his last hideout, but to no avail. The king will always find him. I believe the sword is his last will and warning to anyone about the threat that is the Wild Hunt.

 

[Dprelate]

"Survive" is completely correct because he managed to escape with his life. (right at the beginning of TW1)

Geralt, Letho, Serrit and Aucks together couldn't stand against the wild hunt, as Geralt remembers that they were simply too many. so I don't think destroying all riders would be an option, maybe closing their portal could work.

Book readers might have something interesting to say.

 

[JackalJ]

*book spoilers*

Well as far as Ciri goes "escaping" the hunt, it's true Ciri is in other dimensions/time's/places to stay "ahead" of the Hunt. And the only way for the hunt to stop is to kill the 2 "leaders" of the Hunt. The actual king of the Hunt: Eredin Bréacc Glas. Known to the unicorns as Sparrowhawk and is leading a elven cavalry unit known as the Dearg Ruadhri, which means Red Riders.

The other elf is a Aen Saevherne, or Knowing One, which basicly means he is a elf with great magical power who can see into the future. His name is Avallac'h, or Fox according to the unicorns that Ciri meets in the world of these elfs.

My guess is that killing these 2 elfs might be the key to 'killing' or more crippling the Hunt. So I hope we can go with Ciri in the world of these 2 elfs and fight them in TW3. ^^ But my guess is that Avallac'h is the actual 'end' boss of the Wild Hunt and the Aen Elle, since he has a 'personal' grudge against Ciri.

For the people who want to know more about the book lore regarding these 2 elfs:
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Eredin
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Avallac%27h



*note: these are my assumptions by reading the books/fan translation and reading (freshing up my memory) on the Wiki.*

 

[Arius87]

"Survive" is completely correct because he managed to escape with his life. (right at the beginning of TW1)Geralt, Letho, Serrit and Aucks together couldn't stand against the wild hunt, as Geralt remembers that they were simply too many. so I don't think destroying all riders would be an option, maybe closing their portal could work.Book readers might have something interesting to say.

I have read the books. But I didn't want to spoil any further. And even in the books the Wild Hunt stays kind of a mystery.
I think "survive" is the wrong term since Geralt joint the Wild Hunt. So the word can't be "survived" in this case. "Escape" fits better in my opinion.
The question is how you could join the Wild Hunt. The Wild Hunt kidnapped lots of people because in their world they "need" servants. Just like nobleman in our world. And after maybe 50 years the WH just let them free again. But these kidnapped people never become part of the Wild Hunt.

 

[JackalJ]

Well it could be that the niflgaardian agent was wrong? Cynthia said that Geralt joins the Wild Hunt, did she say he hunted with them?? (I honestly can't remember) If the information comes from Letho he could have seen Geralt leave with the hunt and thus the Nilfgaardians got to that conclusion.

 

[mai3r]

The Wild Hunt kidnapped lots of people because in their world they "need" servants. Just like nobleman in our world. And after maybe 50 years the WH just let them free again. But these kidnapped people never become part of the Wild Hunt.

But Geralt is not a human and he's a really skilled warrior. I personally believe that he actually hunted people with them, but he just don't remember it at all.

 

[Arius87]

Well it could be that the niflgaardian agent was wrong? Cynthia said that Geralt joins the Wild Hunt, did she say he hunted with them?? (I honestly can't remember) If the information comes from Letho he could have seen Geralt leave with the hunt and thus the Nilfgaardians got to that conclusion.

We actually don't know where the information comes exactly from (from which agent for example). Cynthia just said that the nilfgaardian agents have a file about Geralt and th Wild Hunt. And that Geralt might be the key to solve the problem with the Wild Hunt. So we can assume that he is actual a part of it. Otherwise CDPR would't have used the word key.

 

[Arius87]

But Geralt is not a human and he's a really skilled warrior. I personally believe that he actually hunted people with them, but he just don't remember it at all.

True, he is a mutant. But that is no reason to join WH. The Wild Hunt are only Elves as far as we know.

My guess is that the King accepted the exchange of Yennfer with Geralt because he wanted finally to force Ciri to stop escaping the Hunt and save Geralt in a way. The King wants desperatly an elder-blood-child with Ciri that will rule the world(s).

 

[arkblazer]

I think the wild hunt used some kind of mind control to hypnotize geralt and have him ride with him willingly. afterall if they can make people forget why not some magic that controls their mind.


As for how he escaped i've theorized that ciri either fought and freed him or exchanged herself for geralt. Now they have ciri under mind control and can willingly open portals to the witcher realm. That's why they can destroy whole villages. and apparently teleport ships into the witcher dimension.

 

[GuyNwah]

I'm at least as interested in whether he traveled through their portal, and how long in their time he was with them. We know that time moves differently in the sphere of the Other; that's consistent across RL legends as well as the story TW2 opened up.

The exchange of Geralt for Yennefer was a win-win deal: Geralt frees Yennefer, and Eredin gets a skilled killer instead of a high-maintenance hostage. Either will do if his plan is to entice Ciri.

 

[Arius87]

I think the wild hunt used some kind of mind control to hypnotize geralt and have him ride with him willingly. afterall if they can make people forget why not some magic that controls their mind.As for how he escaped i've theorized that ciri either fought and freed him or exchanged herself for geralt. Now they have ciri under mind control and can willingly open portals to the witcher realm. That's why they can destroy whole villages. and apparently teleport ships into the witcher dimension.

I don't think so. If the King of the Wild Hunt already had Ciri under (mind)control than his final goal is achieved since he want an elder-blood-baby with her.

Btw of which ships are you talking?

 

[JackalJ]

I don't think so. If the King of the Wild Hunt already had Ciri under (mind)control than his final goal is achieved since he want an elder-blood-baby with her.

Btw of which ships are you talking? />

The ship mentioned in the TW3 presentation at E3, the one with only sound.

What I am curious about does the Wild Hunt have Ciri undercontrol, as far as I know they haven't found her yet. And they can travel between worlds with or without Ciri, it's just more dangerous without the powers that Ciri has. And the destinations are limited. They could travel to countless of worlds, now only to a couple.

 

[GuyNwah]

I don't think so. If the King of the Wild Hunt already had Ciri under (mind)control than his final goal is achieved since he want an elder-blood-baby with her.

Btw of which ships are you talking? />

I think that is the boat Ciri used to transport Geralt and Yennefer to Avallach. But I don't know whether Ciri could command that boat alone; Ihuarraquax seems to be important to her ability to use magic.

 

[arkblazer]

I don't think so. If the King of the Wild Hunt already had Ciri under (mind)control than his final goal is achieved since he want an elder-blood-baby with her.

Btw of which ships are you talking? />

Yeah im probably wrong since they've mentioned that the wild hunt is looking for someone, i think. But i just think its odd that the wild hunt now has the power to bring ships and raze villages. If they got ciri i wouldnt be surprised if they though of invading the witcher realm.

 

[vivaxardas2015]

Yeah im probably wrong since they've mentioned that the wild hunt is looking for someone, i think. But i just think its odd that the wild hunt now has the power to bring ships and raze villages. If they got ciri i wouldnt be surprised if they though of invading the witcher realm.

Yes, it was my first thought when I read about ships. Something definitely changed, it is not just a cavalcade of specters now. May be CDPR have another explanation for this change, but the idea that they got Ciri is a reasonable one.

 

[MarcAuron]

The Ship is probably or possibly Naglfar, the Skelligean version of the events prior to Tedd Deiradh that are part of the prophecy , or the Skelligaean version of the Wild Hunt, it's seems it's mostly the first.
The probably don't need anything to enter the realm of the Sedhe now.

 

[arkblazer]

Dont know that naglfar is, what is that a myth? is it like the wild hunt only its a ghost ship instead of a cavalcade of riders? Maybe its just some magical ship that they have, maybe one that takes alot of magical energy so they only use it on emergencies?

 

[MarcAuron]

Dont know that naglfar is, what is that a myth? is it like the wild hunt only its a ghost ship instead of a cavalcade of riders? Maybe its just some magical ship that they have, maybe one that takes alot of magical energy so they only use it on emergencies?

Naglfar is the ship, the myth dictates that it's made of the nails of the dead ones.

It's the Skelligan explanation of the Wild Hunt phenomena, or better said the of Riders of the Hunt and the harvesting of people , are announcing the mythical battle in the Skeligan belief between the forces of Morhogg, that will arrive on Naglfar in their ghostly form for the final battle called Ragh nar Roog, prior to Tedd Deiradh.

It's a myth known in our real world,except that like everything else it's very real in the books.
I doubt that they need any kind of traditional magic to travel, their Spectral form is dangerous enough, and they travel in their spectral form without problems see the harvests.
In their Elven form it's something else.
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[Arius87]

Naglfar is the ship, the myth dictates that it's made of the nails of the dead ones.

It's the Skelligan explanation of the Wild Hunt phenomena, or better said the of Riders of the Hunt and the harvesting of people , are announcing the mythical battle in the Skeligan belief between the forces of Morhogg, that will arrive on Naglfar in their ghostly form for the final battle called Ragh nar Roog, prior to Tedd Deiradh.It's a myth known in our real world,except that like everything else it's very real in the books.I doubt that they need any kind of traditional magic to travel, their Spectral form is dangerous enough, and they travel in their spectral form without problems see the harvests.In their Elven form it's something else.​

I remember that I read something like that, but I forgot the obvious link between the Wild Hunt and that myth. I wonder what the final goal for the Wild Hunt is and what it means that Geralt is part of it.
Since the prophecy of Itlina was never fully expressed in the books, and the Aen Elle (Wild Hunt) are the only one who know the full version, there is some space for CDPR to do something on their own.