She is a priestess and a healer, specialist in everything - magical or not - that can save lifes. She has to be really, really old - you see it in her dialog with Yennefer - she is older than Yen, without doubt.
I read that part. She's definitely mature, but there was no evidence there that she was older than Yennefer. And not all priests use magic. Nenneke has shown no magic skill apart from her knowledge of herbs and medicines in either The Last Wish or Blood of Elves.. All she could do for Ciri was teach her about history and the like; she couldn't help her with her dreams even as far as Triss did.StanleySmith said:
There was a paragraph about that in Blood of Elves. Sources who weren't trained as Mages or Druids usually end up as prophets or wise-women and such. But that doesn't mean they'd age slower than normal humans. It's because of special charms and elixirs that Mages are able to prolong their lifespans and maintain their youth. Nenneke wouldn't have this knowledge. Likewise the Grandmaster(who was really the Source Alvin) really looked his age.
Priests and Sources are 2 different things.We know very little about priests. I don't have anything to support theory that priests can live longer than an average human but you won't have anything to deny it. We have no reason to doubt in Nenneke's age.Edit:
Of course.godkingofdivineroad said:
I suppose there's no concrete evidence either way, but Nenneke always seemed 'normal' to me as far as magic and the like was concerned. Since she's never been shown or suggested to have magic, I'll continue to maintain that she's a regular human. Let's just agree to disagree here. Peace?
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Also - mages look younger and live longer not because they used magic or because of mutations, but because of the use of expensive (magic and non-magic) medicines and cosmetics. Therefore, almost all sorceresses look like they were 30 - 35 (or sometimes 40) while men look like they were 50 or 60 (to look "wise"). And about mutations - it seems that mages are "mutated" (mostly) because the mutation will make them sterile (sterilization is not a side effect - it is the main/only purpose of the proces since sterile mages can't have dynastic ambitions...). Mages can theoretically live for an extremelly long time, it (almost) only depends on medical care they get. It is all about cosmetics and medicine - not about any mutations. Witchers are, of course, the opposite case. Therefore, since Nenneke says that she is highest authority in medicine (and therefore has to have access to all needed medicaments) and because she demands respect from Yennefer (and she certainly knows that Yen is really old) and overall treats her as younger ... I came to conclusion that Nenneke is really older, signifficantly older, than Yen and therefore, older than Geralt. (Especially since she said that. )
She behaved in that way.godkingofdivineroad said:
Also - mages look younger and live longer not because they used magic or because of mutations, but because of the use of expensive (magic and non-magic) medicines and cosmetics. Therefore, almost all sorceresses look like they were 30 - 35 (or sometimes 40) while men look like they were 50 or 60 (to look "wise"). And about mutations - it seems that mages are "mutated" (mostly) because the mutation will make them sterile (sterilization is not a side effect - it is the main/only purpose of the proces since sterile mages can't have dynastic ambitions...). Mages can theoretically live for an extremelly long time, it (almost) only depends on medical care they get. It is all about cosmetics and medicine - not about any mutations. Witchers are, of course, the opposite case. Therefore, since Nenneke says that she is highest authority in medicine (and therefore has to have access to all needed medicaments) and because she demands respect from Yennefer (and she certainly knows that Yen is really old) and overall treats her as younger ... I came to conclusion that Nenneke is really older, signifficantly older, than Yen and therefore, older than Geralt. (Especially since she said that. )BTW Triss is only in her 30s.StanleySmith said:He could be 80 - it seems that he is quite old but still younger than Triss (most likely) and Yennefer (Yennefer is 98 at the end of the Saga; but she looks like she was 30
I sorry to say it - but I think you are right. Although both she and Yen look like they were 30 and despite the fact that Geralt was dating both of them, Triss is really, most likely, 30 (or very young) while Yen is over 90. But that doesn't mean that Geralt is not younger than Nenneke. No inconsistency, just my mistake.
Although both she and Yen look like they were 30 and despite the fact that Geralt was dating both of them, Triss is really, most likely, 30 (or very young) while Yen is over 90. But that doesn't mean that Geralt is not younger than Nenneke. No inconsistency, just my mistake. In the Middle Ages, that was considered more than old enough to be married. Of course, there's a huge age difference, but Shani's no teen-aged airhead*; she's a serious medical student.*which is not meant to imply that all teen-agers are airheads!gamewidow said:... yes, he's not terribly picky about the age of his sexual partners ...Shani was only 17
Appreciate that.Well, I can't really see a connection with Geralts death and his lovers... well technically you could go into revenge conspiracies.Point being, the white-haired dude got stabbed into the gut by a mob, probaly wasn't the healthiest, and died. While not arguing about probale or not, it certainly seems to make sense.What I think would be more interesting though, would be the connection between his death and resurrection (Jesus, anybody?).If Geralt actually died, as in 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This Witcher is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im with the pitchfork 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-WITCHER!!!!, then his resurrection would have to be supernatural.Now to my understanding the books are canon and the game isn't, so if the books say he's dead, he's dead.But consider it, if he had survived, let's say by something like a suspended animation spell, technically he never died. Because of the spell it could still be argued to be supernatural, however still within the possible. And this suspension got suspended for some reason, a possible solution for the amnesia...Or maybe I'm just thinking to much :teeth:Corylea said:
It's not possible in our world but Ciri transported Yennefer and him to another dimension, to the elven homeworld. We don't know the full extent of Ciri's power nor we know what is possible in elven world. For example what can we consider supernatural? The Wild Hunt? They are just elves projecting their conciousness in our world while staying in theirs... Ghost? Not really, but it looks like ghosts.
I haven't been able to read the whole series (anyone willing to translate Geralt's death scene; I am very curious how that all played out), but I would think that since so many juicy parts are in the gut, Geralt really wouldn't stand a chance, even with a high metabolism. It could've punctured his stomach, intestines, kidneys, liver, or even the aorta if it wasn't a straight hit. Very nasty, as all of those will bleed quite well, and if blood loss didn't kill him, sepsis probably would've. Even today, if they don't start working on you within an hour, you're basically SOL. Some questions for those who have read the whole saga: So, if all of his friends were with/near him when he 'died', did they see Ciri transport him and Yen away? Or were they only aware that he was badly hurt, and realized his body was gone after the pogrom was over? And is Avalon the Elvin other-world, then? I remember reading somewhere, the wiki probably, that that's where Ciri sent Geralt and Yen. Didn't someone note that it smelt of apples, and maybe that's how the connection was made? Just curious.
i have not read the whole series, so take anything i say with a grain of salt, but i believe avalon (or "Wyspa Jabłoni") where Ciri transports him is not the whole of the elven world, just an island therein ... and possibly not even in the elven world, but another parallel world eace:
eace:Yes, all of them were also at the place with Ciri when she departed with Geralt and Yennefer. Don't remember mentioning avalon as the name of elven world. And yes, it's called a "world" so it might be another world or just another continent or another island. Those apples are most likely irrelevant.pudi0072000 said: