Yep, I agree this is the best Geralt we have and will ever have. If his looks change after taking potions than even better.
"they are more similar to TW2 Geralt than any other shown up until now."??? LoL! Pass some of that S*** you're smoking, cause i cannot see what you see being high. xD hahah!
The similarities with Geralt's face in TW2 are quite evident to me as well. There is simply more detail to it this time around.
As far as the eyes are concerned, I don't think I ever read that his eyes looked exactly like a cat's eyes. It was said that the witcher could see in the dark, because his eyes worked in a similar way, to that of the cat.
Now, having very little information on how mutations actually work in the Witcher universe, I will have to speculate that it is done by using DNA in one way or another. As far as I'm concerned, you can't make a human have the eyes of a cat, mainly due to size limitations, so I would guess a mixture of the cat and the human DNA is used to create the witcher eyes. Which should explain the differences between Witcher/Human/Cat eyes.
As far as the eyes are concerned, I don't think I ever read that his eyes looked exactly like a cat's eyes. It was said that the witcher could see in the dark, because his eyes worked in a similar way, to that of the cat.
Now, having very little information on how mutations actually work in the Witcher universe, I will have to speculate that it is done by using DNA in one way or another. As far as I'm concerned, you can't make a human have the eyes of a cat, mainly due to size limitations, so I would guess a mixture of the cat and the human DNA is used to create the witcher eyes. Which should explain the differences between Witcher/Human/Cat eyes.
I don't understand what do you call CGI. All of those screens are from gameplay.
Thought the same. Swords of Destiny trailer is gameplay, not CGI.
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It's stated throughout the books that Geralt's pupils automatically reacted to light,BUT there're a couple of quotes that led me to believe that Geralt could adjust his pupils at will.
Sword of Destiny:"With effort,he dilated his pupils."
The Last Wish:"The witcher shaded his eyes with his hand in an unnecessary,instictive reflex wich he had never managed to shake off-all he needed to do ,after all,was narrow his pupils into vertical slits."
Also,i honestly can't remember where/if in the books it's stated that he has yellow eyes.
This is a very lame excuse tbh. And in the books people are scared when they get to see his eyes. Nobody would be scared by the eyes of the Geralt shown in the pictures above. Like the whole rest of his appearance this rather looks like CDPR wanted to make him as cool and badass (mainstream) as possible instead of making him frightening, pale and unique (or - God have mercy - somewhat similar to how he is described in the books...).
And of course humans can't have cat eyes. There are no mutants like that in the real world. That's why we call it fantasy.
I don't know man, a person with Geralt's eyes would look fairly freaky irl. There was a fan-made video I saw a while back, where they used the same design for witcher eyes, except that they were now on a real person, and it looked very creepy. Those eyes look less out of place on a computer animation though, since we're more used to seeing unusual video game characters than actual real life people.
Regardless, this design of the eyes has been used since the first game, so the chance of a change is next to zero.
Regardless, this design of the eyes has been used since the first game, so the chance of a change is next to zero.
@LordCrash
Well, I was based on Sapkowski's lore in my post. Thanks to @bilbobaggins for quoting the author. I myself do not remember any other occasion that Sapkowski refers to Geralt's eyes, other than the ones that mention the fear people have when looking at Geralt frowning.
The eyes for me are perfect. They have been in all 3 games, with the exception of the second, which somewhat lacked. They were still different from normal human eyes. Geralt could dilate his pupils, much like a cat can, into tiny slits to see better in areas with little amount of light. He should not have green or blue eyes or in any way cat like eyes.
Tell you what though, next time I read through the books, I'll look for a description of Geralt's eyes. I doubt there is one. Even on the color.
Now on the paleness, I kind of agree, though at some points in the gameplay demos, I thought the paleness was just fine. It might be a lighting issue. You can't say that his face is not unique however. It doesn't look nothing like characters in other video games. To me it looks like Geralt. In my head.
@ReptilePZ
Do you mean the fan made video, that the guy was impersonating Lambert? Yeah that was pretty freaky looking.
Edit: I found the link. You guys make your own conclusions.
Well, I was based on Sapkowski's lore in my post. Thanks to @bilbobaggins for quoting the author. I myself do not remember any other occasion that Sapkowski refers to Geralt's eyes, other than the ones that mention the fear people have when looking at Geralt frowning.
The eyes for me are perfect. They have been in all 3 games, with the exception of the second, which somewhat lacked. They were still different from normal human eyes. Geralt could dilate his pupils, much like a cat can, into tiny slits to see better in areas with little amount of light. He should not have green or blue eyes or in any way cat like eyes.
Tell you what though, next time I read through the books, I'll look for a description of Geralt's eyes. I doubt there is one. Even on the color.
Now on the paleness, I kind of agree, though at some points in the gameplay demos, I thought the paleness was just fine. It might be a lighting issue. You can't say that his face is not unique however. It doesn't look nothing like characters in other video games. To me it looks like Geralt. In my head.
@ReptilePZ
Do you mean the fan made video, that the guy was impersonating Lambert? Yeah that was pretty freaky looking.
Edit: I found the link. You guys make your own conclusions.
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Well, that's your opinion and I respect it.
I looks quite a lot like characters in other video games. The latest iteration of Geralt and Solid Snake in MGS V are for example very similar (apart from hair and the eyepatch of course and the fact that Snake looks a lot more lifelike with a much more detailed face)...
Maybe it's also a technical issue. As much as I like the Red Engine there are still many improvements possible. Faces are for example one issue not really "state-of-the-PC-art" yet. Other games/englines (Fox, Cryengine,...) can deliver much more detailed and lifelike faces than the Red Engine. I hope CDPR will be able to really improve on that. I mean Crysis 3 has way better faces and you only see them in a few cutscene. In an RPG you see faces in every dialogue. Facial expressions are of crucial importance in an RPG like that. I personally even think faces and facial animations and the core part of the engine CDPR should focus on in the next months because on this topic thay can't live up to the (very high) expectations so far...
Facial quality of MGS V (Fox Engine):
Facial quality of Crysis 3 (Cryengine)
Both are imo qualitywise one step ahead of the Red Engine (not in terms of proportions or design, just from a technical point of view).
Edit: Of course in both engines faces are based on performance mo-cap of real persons. I don't know if that's true for Witcher 3 as well but I think I read somewhere that they create their faces by hand (at leat the main characters). While this is cool from a solely artistical point of view it may explain the quality-gap in terms of facial details, lifelikeness and also facial animations...
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Well, that might be true for facial animations in cutscenes. But it's not true for the general fidelity of faces, the amount of polygons on faces and the amount of details like wrinkles, little imperfections, wounds and so on....
No, it relates to that as well. Fewer cutscenes and characters means the artists get to have the lighting in each scene just right, they get to work on each separate face more since there's only need for 5-6 very detailed faces in the entire game etc. But this is really going off-topic at this point.
HA HA HA, That video sure looks creepy, but those eyes had not nothing to do with a witcher eyes, a lemon yellow piece of plastic it´s nowhere near a natural eye, iris and pupil, even as much greenish or yellowish they are.
The two bottom ones are actually in-game cutscenes from the E3 gameplay footage linked below. Not sure about the top one though, but it looks like gameplay as well.
[video=youtube;BivVXw-NLTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BivVXw-NLTw[/video]
I really don't see all that many similarities.
They look pretty state of the art to me:
I for one love the work they've done so far. The amount of detail blew me away, that's certain.