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kjcain143

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#1
Mar 18, 2013
Geralt's Memory in W3

I hope that CDPROJEKT can really make the non readers of The Witcher connect with Yennefer..
Well we all know that most of the gamers have more connection with Triss (2 games vs 4 or 5 cartoon flashbacks).
I wasn't satisfied how they introduced Yen in the flashbacks in W2..

I hope there are sequences in the game where Geralt regains a memory and then we can relive Geralt and Yen's story like in Sapkowski's "The Last Wish"
It can be incorporated into a quest perhaps? It would be really cool..
Atleast the nonreaders will be able to know why geralt is destined for Yennefer or watever.

I just hope the dev can be creative about it and reallllllly make the gamers choose hard between the 2 sorceress.
If they decide to go to that direction..

Anyway I'm really excited to see Yen and the Emperor and also Ciri in W3 />
 
Geralt_of_bsas

Geralt_of_bsas

Forum veteran
#2
Mar 18, 2013
I dont think players shoulb be able to choose at all, but if they can then i agree, CDPRED have to make sure Yen gets all the attention needed and that its well paced.
 
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Randomdrowner2015

Senior user
#3
Mar 18, 2013
Geraltofbsas said:
I dont think players shoulb be able to choose at all, but if they can then i agree, CDPRED have to make sure Yen gets all the attention needed and that its well paced.
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The most important thing in these matters is that the games stays true to the characters. When it comes to Geralt and his relation, the notion of staying true to the character does not only means staying true to the books, but also who Geralt became after he lost his memory (which involves player choice). The trick is to merge these two so that both becomes important to how choices like these plays out. However it does play out, I hope that Geralt will still have strong feelings for the "other" love interest (would require either romancing Shani or Triss in previous games).
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#4
Mar 18, 2013
I'm still fond of the idea to replay key scenes of their former relationship, it would be pure fanservice for guys like me and it would also introduce Yen the same way she was introduced in the books.
 
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username_3257119

Rookie
#5
Mar 18, 2013
CDPRs solution for the love triangle between Yen, Triss and Geralt will be the most interesting part in The Witcher 3.
Getting this right could be more ambitious than the huge open world ;)/>

Personally i think, after Geralt finds Yen, there isn't much room left for Triss. Yen will ensure that like she did it in the books. ;)/>
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#6
Mar 18, 2013
Well, it wouldn't be The Witcher game without this choice for me. I do not care about the books, really. After that Gerald lost his memory, went through new experiences, and even though he regained his memory, it does not mean he would revert to a person he was before.
I have never lost my memory, but I changed over the years, and some people immensely important to me 10 years ago, now are not on the top of my priorities list. So to cling to some woman artificially just for a sake of the past, is immature. People change, destiny or no destiny. As I posted before - I do not want to play Oedipus, dragged by chains to my destiny. It wouldn't be my Gerald. My Gerald has free will. I am not against Yen, but it should be my decision, with an available alternative to say to her, and to Triss - see ya later, and go on with my life without them.
 
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destroyraiden

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#7
Mar 18, 2013
Geralt needs to be able to have some emotions when he gets his memory back like feeling and expressing betrayal over Triss using him, lying to him, and exploiting him for both herself and the lodge. He shouldn't be a complete brick over this like he was over the rose once he learned it has mind altering capabilities that can make a person into a thrall he should've been upset, suspicious, questioning of her did she want to do that to him? She wouldn't be able to say she didn't know the properties and how it could be used for harm as potion brewers are well aware of their plants and what they can and can't be used for.
 
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FoggyFishburne

Banned
#8
Mar 18, 2013
As a person who hasn't read the books and know very little about the lady, I do wonder how they'll deal with this whole Yennefer business. Considering that most people (I assume) who plays TW3 probably won't know who she is, they'll have to do a lot to make us connect with her. You can't just establish a connection between the player and a character just because the story demands it. If Geralt ends up finding her early in the game and she becomes useful to you in a practical sense, enchanting your weapons or brewing potions or something like that, that could work. That's one way to go.

Kallelinski said:
I'm still fond of the idea to replay key scenes of their former relationship, it would be pure fanservice for guys like me and it would also introduce Yen the same way she was introduced in the books.
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Hey that's actually a really neat idea, definitely an option. I for one would love to see them implement some kind of "memory-relive-experience" mechanic or feature. It'd be insanely cool. Letting us see some of the most important moments could do a lot of things: Introduce people to the story and lore, provide exposition and establish a context from which the player can later extrapolate from when making some really tough decisions.

Honestly, I think that allowing the players to relive memories is a brilliant idea. If done right, it could be insanely creative and fun, allow for a change of pace in the plot and something else. Wow, my brain just blacked out :S Ah well, still a great idea and I think it could solve a lot of problems regarding how to ease people into the game and subtly yet creatively weave exposition into the narrative. I hope they'll go this route though I won't hold my breath.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#9
Mar 18, 2013
FoggyFishburne said:
If Geralt ends up finding her early in the game and she becomes useful to you in a practical sense, enchanting your weapons or brewing potions or something like that, that could work. That's one way to go.
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a car could be equally practical .... /> If CDPR introduce Yennefer only to be practical to Geralt better they don't introduce her at all.....
 
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Kallelinski

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#10
Mar 18, 2013
vivaxardas said:
Well, it wouldn't be The Witcher game without this choice for me. I do not care about the books, really. After that Gerald lost his memory, went through new experiences, and even though he regained his memory, it does not mean he would revert to a person he was before.
I have never lost my memory, but I changed over the years, and some people immensely important to me 10 years ago, now are not on the top of my priorities list. So to cling to some woman artificially just for a sake of the past, is immature. People change, destiny or no destiny. As I posted before - I do not want to play Oedipus, dragged by chains to my destiny. It wouldn't be my Gerald. My Gerald has free will. I am not against Yen, but it should be my decision, with an available alternative to say to her, and to Triss - see ya later, and go on with my life without them.
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I don't want to get all worked up about that again, i pretty much said everything in that other really long (and exhausting
) thread, but the biggest problem is that Geralt had chosen Yennefer and she is actually the first woman Geralt really wanted, not vice versa. He even fought for her affection, he never did this for anyone. And even if other women were close to him, he always came back to Yennefer.
It's not even the first time Geralt had another relationship with another woman, while Yen was absent.

i wonder how they wanna implement that without limiting your choice, but we will see.

vivaxardas said:
Honestly, I think that allowing the players to relive memories is a brilliant idea. If done right, it could be insanely creative and fun, allow for a change of pace in the plot and something else. Wow, my brain just blacked out :S
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And you don't even know the bath scene or Gors Velen or the banquet or ..



Anyway, it's about damn time that they bring Yen into the spotlight.
 
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kjcain143

Rookie
#11
Mar 18, 2013
Dr4g0nfir3 said:
Personally i think, after Geralt finds Yen, there isn't much room left for Triss. Yen will ensure that like she did it in the books. ;)/>/>/>
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Definitely! In the books Triss always gets pawned by Yenna />
She's like a kitten while Yenna is like a Bengal Tiger

Though she was able to redeem herself at the last book when she
didn't runaway and left Yen during the Rivian pogrom
 
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jolith07

Senior user
#12
Mar 18, 2013
Here is what I would do or what at least I would think I would have to do. you might get to choose what relationship you want to cultivate, but in the end Geralt will end up with neither.

For an open ended world he will constantly have to fight off the Wild Hunt and slay mosters till he dies (you stop playing the game) a Witchers fate.

Of course I'm a total speculator I have only just began reading the first book.

and to the OP i think it woulld be great to have he semi slowly introduced in memory flashbacks + CDPR should make her (yen) extremely hot />
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#13
Mar 18, 2013
jolith07 said:
Here is what I would do or what at least I would think I would have to do. you might get to choose what relationship you want to cultivate, but in the end Geralt will end up with neither.

For an open ended world he will constantly have to fight off the Wild Hunt and slay mosters till he dies (you stop playing the game) a Witchers fate.

Of course I'm a total speculator I have only just began reading the first book.

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Lol, let us know if you still thinking the same when you finish the saga :p/>
 
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FoggyFishburne

Banned
#14
Mar 18, 2013
Wichat said:
a car could be equally practical .... />/> If CDPR introduce Yennefer only to be practical to Geralt better they don't introduce her at all.....
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I take it you're not too familiar with what constitutes good game design huh?

The reason we, as players, care about, say, the horse in Shadow of the Colossus or Garrus in Mass Effect or Clem in The Walking Dead is because they serve a practical purpose to the player. IE, they're useful to us in the sense that they help us through the game in one way or another.

In SotC the horse is used for transportation across the vast landscape. If the horse would die, you'd be sad because that horse was useful to you and there's no replacement. Without the horse, you're going to have to traverse the country by foot, which would, obviously, take much longer than by horse.

In Mass Effect, Garrus possess various different skills that benefit you, as a player, in combat. He dispatches enemies with abilities and talents, making it much easier for you to survive and get through the game. He's useful to you when it comes to combat aspects.

In The Walking Dead, Clem is constantly helping you, Lee, to get through locked doors and even shooting a zombie, thereby saving a fellow survivor.

Having good, well developed and well written characters and solid characterization can be enough to establish a connection between the player and the specific character but attributing said character a specific role from where that character can be useful to you in a practical sense, amplifies the attachment you have to the character. Remember, this isn't a book, a movie, or a tv show. This is a game, and therefore other rules apply to how you create an important character.

Obviously it's a little more complex than that, you can't for example let an npc in a game be expendable or redundant, that way you can just swap another character with him and you won't miss him. This is advanced npc utility and characterization but you get the general idea, even if I'm really simplifying things now :p

Ken Levine talked about this recently and I recommend the video to anyone who's interested in game design, he mentions some of what makes good npc design, specifically how companions are supposed to mirror their importance in the story within gameplay.

What I'm saying isn't that Yennefer should just be like a shopkeeper or something, where the only thing she does is sell you goods. She doesn't talk with you or anything, all she does is offer useful services to you. That would be shit game design, especially considering the context of the Witcher universe. Yennefer is quite clearly important to Geralt. Designating such a trivial and small role to her, would diminish her as a character. You probably see where I'm going with this now.

Because Yennefer is an important character, to Geralt and to the plot, she should, according to npc characterization and utility, serve a useful and practical purpose to you in order to reflect her importance within the game mechanics. The more utility she provides within the game, the more she's resonating within the context of the story that she's important person in the plot. Though this wasn't my point with my original post. All I was saying there is that a good way to introduce new people who don't know who Yennefer is, like myself, is let her serve a purpose to the player regarding the gameplay or a feature. Maybe she could be the one to go to when you want to fast travel. She creates a portal, you both walk through it and voila. That way, whenever you need fast travel, you go to her. It's actually killing two birds with one stone, on one hand you're providing Yen with a useful role and on the other you ground the fast travel feature in reality, grounding it in a realistic way of how it works. Thus, you have created an instant connection because she's useful to the player. NOW you can start to characterize her and give her a backstory, motives etc etc.

God damn I'm good! Every chance I get to explain some what good game design is, I just have to take it :p What can I say, this is my passion. I was born for this shit ^^
 
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FoggyFishburne

Banned
#15
Mar 18, 2013
Kallelinski said:
And you don't even know the bath scene or Gors Velen or the banquet or ..
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Gors Velen? A banquet!? THERE WAS A BATH SCENE!?

Oh you got me real fucking excited now, I gotta read those books soon. I've heard nothing but good things and now, with you teasing me, I'll have to get started right away!

Btw, from what I've read and seen, she seems incredibly cool and incredibly beautiful. In fact, if she looks anything like this



... then, well. Bye Triss!! :p Seriously, Yen's my type. Can't wait to play the game and see what she's like! :)
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#16
Mar 18, 2013
Sorry, foggy... I though you meant just to get a new character only by her useful... not by an awsome personality like Geralt's one and so we could enjoy of a third immersive story of The Witcher.... I'm so silly! />
 
Geralt_of_bsas

Geralt_of_bsas

Forum veteran
#17
Mar 18, 2013
Randomdrowner said:
The most important thing in these matters is that the games stays true to the characters. When it comes to Geralt and his relation, the notion of staying true to the character does not only means staying true to the books, but also who Geralt became after he lost his memory (which involves player choice). The trick is to merge these two so that both becomes important to how choices like these plays out. However it does play out, I hope that Geralt will still have strong feelings for the "other" love interest (would require either romancing Shani or Triss in previous games).
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The thing is, for me it doesnt matter who Geralt is after he lost his memory, his original memory is back now, and so is his love.

Original Geralt could've had Triss and Shani but he loved Yen, yet amnesia Geralt only had Shani and Triss to choose with Yen not even being there and all his memories gone, so for me its a no contest, when all of the women were available and Geralt was himself, he already made the choice.

Its just a small detail in my opinion though, i'd still be totally ok with being able to choose.
 
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Preserver

Rookie
#18
Mar 18, 2013
janikka said:
I'm really excited to see Yen and the Emperor and also Ciri in W3 />/>
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And I'd be really glad if I could cut off emperor's head in TW3 !!!
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#19
Mar 18, 2013
I think there are enough reasons for why Geralt and Triss could stay together.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#20
Mar 18, 2013
gaurdian said:
And I'd be really glad if I could cut off emperor's head in TW3 !!!
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Hey, hands off the emperor! Why all this animosity? What did he do to you to be so nasty??? One little friendly neighborly massacre of the mages is not such a big of a deal to get all unloving on him, and a small invasion from time to time is always good to keep things interesting. You people should get used to it already. And, as Henselt said, after all, it is good to have a neighbor who knows how to fight. :)/>
 
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