Geralt's Memory in W3

[Kallelinski]

Gors Velen? A banquet!? THERE WAS A BATH SCENE!?

Oh you got me real fucking excited now, I gotta read those books soon. I've heard nothing but good things and now, with you teasing me, I'll have to get started right away!

Btw, from what I've read and seen, she seems incredibly cool and incredibly beautiful. In fact, if she looks anything like this

*snip*

... then, well. Bye Triss!!

Seriously, Yen's my type. Can't wait to play the game and see what she's like!

There were actually two, but i don't want to spoil it any further.

Just to tease you, a short quote from Sword of Destiny

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She [Yennefer] also had a magnificent stuffed unicorn, upon whose back she liked to make love. Geralt was of the opinion that the only place even less suited for lovemaking would be the back of a live unicorn.

http://justanor.devi...rberg-316062944

Best fanart IMO.

I think there are enough reasons for why Geralt and Triss could stay together.

I see what you did there, but i won't take the bait

 

[cmdr_silverbolt]

Aw shucks, looks like you're getting wise to my tricks

Seriously though, I wasn't baiting. There are enough reasons for both choices, and we have gone over this stuff in that exhaustive and exhausting thread. Even the destiny stuff. So it's perfectly justifiable to give players a choice, and also to let Geralt and Triss stay together.

 

[Kallelinski]

I just didn't want to introduce that again, let's discuss how they gonna implement her, that's much more important

 

[cmdr_silverbolt]

There can be several ways:

-Geralt himself reflecting on his memories,
-characters from Geralt's past mentioning important events,
-Geralt himself telling the story of his and Yen's life/love to someone,
-Geralt having a magically induced trip down memory lane to "remember better" (lol @ Far Cry 3 and how they did it with drugs), and
-Perhaps Geralt can find items (letters?, star necklace) or view events or experience something to remind him of Yennefer and how she used to be (like smelling lilacs or gooseberries).

I don't have any worries about how CDPR will do this- they are great storytellers.

 

[Aes Sídhe]

Well, it wouldn't be The Witcher game without this choice for me. I do not care about the books, really. After that Gerald lost his memory, went through new experiences, and even though he regained his memory, it does not mean he would revert to a person he was before.
I have never lost my memory, but I changed over the years, and some people immensely important to me 10 years ago, now are not on the top of my priorities list. So to cling to some woman artificially just for a sake of the past, is immature. People change, destiny or no destiny. As I posted before - I do not want to play Oedipus, dragged by chains to my destiny. It wouldn't be my Gerald. My Gerald has free will. I am not against Yen, but it should be my decision, with an available alternative to say to her, and to Triss - see ya later, and go on with my life without them.

I look back at my first Geralt, when I was personally completely unaware of the Witcher, the amnesia hook worked very well for me. I distrusted Triss & went with Shani, then grew with Triss later on, I'm not sure what he will do in future, but just because he's got his memory back, doesn't matter - he's changed by the experiences he's had. My other Geralts have been, are and will be different too.

I hope for all the options also, hah including Shani !

 

[vongraudenz]

You are presuming that Yennifer has not changed over the past 5 years. As someone else has mentioned everyone changes over time, even without major events occuring in their lives. However in Yennifer's case, she has gone through exposure to the Wild Hunt, has been captured by the Emperor, is now presumably in his service (willingly or not), and any other number of events we may not know about. In the ultimate what if - What if she has finally been able to achieve her ultimate desire to have a child of her own? Surely there would be price for that, not to mention her priorities would now be completely different. What I am saying is there is the possibility she rejects Geralt. How has his Destiny been affected by the Wild Hunt? All of these possibilities exist despite Geralt having his complete memory restored, and rediscovering his feelings for her.

Besdies the restoration of his memory affecting his love life, how about all of the other things he will remember? They may have an impact on the course of events. Memories of Ciri, other witchers, the Wild Hunt, other pogroms(if your story went that way), past plans. The restored memories present excellent story telling opportunities beyond the Yen/Triss story arc.

 

[Aes Sídhe]

You are presuming that Yennifer has not changed over the past 5 years. As someone else has mentioned everyone changes over time, even without major events occuring in their lives.

Excellent point... well put !

 

[frynse]

On the subject of his memory, since he has now regained it, shouldn't there be some revelations regarding how he came back to life and what exactly he was doing when he was MIA?

 

[Preserver]

Hey, hands off the emperor! Why all this animosity? What did he do to you to be so nasty??? One little friendly neighborly massacre of the mages is not such a big of a deal to get all unloving on him, and a small invasion from time to time is always good to keep things interesting. You people should get used to it already. And, as Henselt said, after all, it is good to have a neighbor who knows how to fight. />/>

Truth be told . . . I don't know why I hate him so much.
Maybe just because he's unique among c*****cking bastards !

 

[Preserver]

On the subject of his memory, since he has now regained it, shouldn't there be some revelations regarding how he came back to life and what exactly he was doing when he was MIA?

Pretty good point and I believe there will be.

 

[Kallelinski]

There can be several ways:

-Geralt himself reflecting on his memories,
-characters from Geralt's past mentioning important events,
-Geralt himself telling the story of his and Yen's life/love to someone,
-Geralt having a magically induced trip down memory lane to "remember better" (lol @ Far Cry 3 and how they did it with drugs), and
-Perhaps Geralt can find items (letters?, star necklace) or view events or experience something to remind him of Yennefer and how she used to be (like smelling lilacs or gooseberries).

I don't have any worries about how CDPR will do this- they are great storytellers.

I think they have to show her in person and not just in a text form or in pictures anymore, those things could be optional to find clues about her whereabouts, but they should show her really early on. The flashbacks and dialogues about her in TW2 barely showed who she is, but i don't think anyone was really attached to her, despite everything what Dandelion and Geralt himself said about her.

Imagine you find her only at the end of the game, CDPR must have a lot of work done to make her important for you to rescue her just by showing text and flashbacks, because it didn't work in TW2 for me as most i would guess.

You are presuming that Yennifer has not changed over the past 5 years.

Also this, they have to explain what she did in those years or was she just imprisoned? It was kinda interesting that the lodge know about her whereabouts, makes me wonder if Triss knew

Well, i can see certain parallels to the books, so i just hope they won't go according to that, because

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that will mean we have to wait until the very end of the game to actual see her in person

and that would be massively disappointing.

On the subject of his memory, since he has now regained it, shouldn't there be some revelations regarding how he came back to life and what exactly he was doing when he was MIA?

Perhaps Ciri helped him

 

[cmdr_silverbolt]

@ Kallenski: I agree, I wouldn't want to wait until the end, or near the end, of the main storyline to interact with her.

 

[Garrison72]

If the writers can make me care about Yenn more than Triss, then they are indeed god tier.

 

[Glaroug.531]

If the writers can make me care about Yenn more than Triss, then they are indeed god tier.

Indeed, and I love Yennifer as a character a great deal.

This decision always brings this song to mind, The Isolation Years, by Opeth. For me it seems to fit Geralt, Triss and Yen, at least to some extant, both in the past during the events of the books and the present/future events of the games.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHLvIoI910[/media]

 

[mxYELLOW]

Also this, they have to explain what she did in those years or was she just imprisoned? It was kinda interesting that the lodge know about her whereabouts, makes me wonder if Triss knew

I doubt Triss knows anything about Yen since they started to isolate her due to her relationship with Geralt.

This makes me think, what if they use this Geralt/Triss relationship to make Yen side with the Lodge and fight against Geralt?

 

[wichat]

I doubt Triss knows anything about Yen since they started to isolate her due to her relationship with Geralt.

This makes me think, what if they use this Geralt/Triss relationship to make Yen side with the Lodge and fight against Geralt?

Phillipa doesn't trust at all Yennefer, in fact, she always know that Yen was better and more powerful than her, and only Yen's pride and rebelliousness has got her away to lead the Lodge. Phillipa is a cold calculating and ambitious politician, Yen, however, is a woman of passion and indomitable spirit. So I doubt, dispite amnesia, that sould be change the relation which exists between both sorceress. But, if CDPR stay faithful to the history in books, it is more easier that Triss'd know the real whereabouts of Yen and hides more information to Geralt.And this suit with the Triss we've known in both games.

 

[Kallelinski]

I doubt Triss knows anything about Yen since they started to isolate her due to her relationship with Geralt.

Just a little reminder,

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Triss doesn't tell you she was part of the lodge until the very end of TW2 and only if you resuce her.

So we will see.

This makes me think, what if they use this Geralt/Triss relationship to make Yen side with the Lodge and fight against Geralt?

I don't think so, Wichat actually explained it pretty well why Philippa would not risk this.

I also don't think that Emhyr actually harmed Yen like putting her in a filthy dungeon and let her rot, i would even assume that he even helped her recovering her memories, because she could be useful to him, if she remembers Geralt, Emhyr could blackmail Geralt just like he did it with Letho.

We just need more information about the story, right now everything could be kinda plausible.

 

[cmdr_silverbolt]

@ Kallelinski: Triss never had a reason to really dislike the Lodge until that point, or one to confide in Geralt.

 

[wichat]

@ Kallelinski: Triss never had a reason to really dislike the Lodge until that point, or one to confide in Geralt.

Triss never left the Lodge because she never really known where she belongs from. In books, the real Triss needs a leader, someone who tell her what to do. She doesn't like the Lodge (she hates Sila, she despises Phillipa, she doesn't like Francesca, she untrust Fringilla Vigo and she fears Yennefer) but she doesn't know any other place where feel save and protected (except beside Geralt), and if this do not change she will stay be loyal to the Lodge.

 

[vivaxardas2015]

Yes, it seems to be clear in TW2 as well. If you recall Triss' conversations with Dethmold and Philippa, her conversation with Dethmold is somewhat adversarial, while with Philippa she talks as if she seeks some guidance from a superior. I do not really see her attempt to clear Gerald's name as purely personal. She is too old for that. It is simply very prudent for her to get Gerald out of the picture, and stop him from pursuing Letho. I am sure the potion she wanted to brew from the rose of remembrance had nothing to do with restoring Gerald's memories, but with a mind-control. As I see it her main goal in TW2 was to protect the Lodge.