I'm generally for relationships within RPGs these days. Marriage specifically is not necessary considering the Cyberpunk setting. If the PC can marry some NPC that's fine, if not that's fine too.
If pressed to answer I would probably lean towards not having marriage because it's difficult in my opinion to develop a relationship within 100 hours that could feel even close to authentic. I'm cool with the NPC being married or not, but to develop a relationship from strangers to married would be hard to authentically do well within the context of a game. I did not like how Skyrim was essentially, "put on this necklace and 1/3 of the people you've helped become available." It was basically "Hello there person who I've spoken with six times and whom I helped kill/save/find x, y, or z, look at my fancy necklace, would you like to commit yourself to me for the rest of our lives (PS I might be a Vampire/Werewolf and destined to spend eternity in a different afterlife than you)?" If they're going to do it, there has to be a lot of narrative investment in the potential character(s). Just my opinion.
I do expect there to be some sort of relationship options however.
If pressed to answer I would probably lean towards not having marriage because it's difficult in my opinion to develop a relationship within 100 hours that could feel even close to authentic. I'm cool with the NPC being married or not, but to develop a relationship from strangers to married would be hard to authentically do well within the context of a game. I did not like how Skyrim was essentially, "put on this necklace and 1/3 of the people you've helped become available." It was basically "Hello there person who I've spoken with six times and whom I helped kill/save/find x, y, or z, look at my fancy necklace, would you like to commit yourself to me for the rest of our lives (PS I might be a Vampire/Werewolf and destined to spend eternity in a different afterlife than you)?" If they're going to do it, there has to be a lot of narrative investment in the potential character(s). Just my opinion.
I do expect there to be some sort of relationship options however.
Zagor-Te-Nay;n8253850 said:CDPR should teach a lesson to animalfather( and Skyrim lovers) here and run a War of the Roses full quest line, scenario. Love is in the air, life couldn't be better...player runs around the world "adventuring"/neglecting his spouse...50 hours later:
I always wanted a "relationship" quest that is a fraud; where the player is led to believe something romantic is going on, but then, abruptly, s/he is led to a remote location where a gang beats the shit out of him/her, is robbed of all possessions, and carried in a bag to an unknown location and left there for dead. The player then needs to navigate the way back and - if chosen to - find out the hustlers, reobtain what was stolen and - if chosen - get a payback. And that's that for romances for the rest of the game.
Absolutely not! Please don't turn this into Dragon Age or Mass Effect where every sexual orientation needs to be accounted for in a politically correct way! Leave that noise out!!!
i'd like to have the girl from the teaser trailer walking arund in my apartment, as a partner, girlfriend or very close companion, but no marriage, there is no need to do it
why would people get married in the future? i mean there are unlimited possibilities
why would people get married in the future? i mean there are unlimited possibilities
Yay for shotgun wedding somewhere in the middle of wasteland continued by divorce in some church somewhere deep in Night City. And pissing off another nomad family. Or not.
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I know right? Fucking Dragon Soot Effect.WalteriusMaximus;n8266840 said:
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metalmaniac21;n8268060 said:
Imagine if that was made with a straight face and not as a joke "punishment*" for poking your ... nose in some hillbillys offspring.
*(They're horrible as companions and they will tag onto your back - you can't even tell them to "wait here" - for forever unless you get them killed or find that drunken priest divorce you.)
But yeah, yay for shotgunwedding like that.
Initiation to Nomad family? Can imagine, not a very unrealistic scenario, though highly questionable. In Fallout 2 the same event could end up in a combat while your character is completely naked.kofeiiniturpa;n8268300 said:
But I like fraud relationship scenario even more, though. Fucking over the player's expcectations for real is a height unreachable by those post-modern game developers.
Marriage would have to be executed correctly/done right if this were to be implemented. Sure, it could sound great on paper, but when you translate that writing you wrote on paper to the QA phase, it could be absolutely cringe-worthy to outright outstanding.
If marriage does an impact in the Cyberpunk 2077 world, it would have to be beneficial to the game (like XP bonuses, or combine different skill sets to survive in the grim streets of Night City. Please DON'T make it like Skyrim. Marriages are useless in Skyrim (only get gold in Skyrim from your home shop, or in Fallout 4's case companion buffs/perks when you are out exploring the Wasteland) It should be noted that in CP 2077's world, your companion should trust you. This should include morale decisions based on whatever you do in Night City, being an anti-hero, or the hero. If you end up doing/making bad decisions, your spouse should be disgusted by the ways you treat others, or society (against their moral code, based on their own personality). You want to build your relationship in CP 2077, by either doing leisure activities in the world, or doing side quests for random civilians. Take him or her to a restaurant, or movie, etc, to build your trust/bond up with them (check out the Persona games for instance, specifically social links). Make the spouse have some kind of impact on the world, rather than just dull, uninteresting, or plain unlikeable (looking at you Preston Garvey and Marcy Long from Fallout 4!)
If marriage does an impact in the Cyberpunk 2077 world, it would have to be beneficial to the game (like XP bonuses, or combine different skill sets to survive in the grim streets of Night City. Please DON'T make it like Skyrim. Marriages are useless in Skyrim (only get gold in Skyrim from your home shop, or in Fallout 4's case companion buffs/perks when you are out exploring the Wasteland) It should be noted that in CP 2077's world, your companion should trust you. This should include morale decisions based on whatever you do in Night City, being an anti-hero, or the hero. If you end up doing/making bad decisions, your spouse should be disgusted by the ways you treat others, or society (against their moral code, based on their own personality). You want to build your relationship in CP 2077, by either doing leisure activities in the world, or doing side quests for random civilians. Take him or her to a restaurant, or movie, etc, to build your trust/bond up with them (check out the Persona games for instance, specifically social links). Make the spouse have some kind of impact on the world, rather than just dull, uninteresting, or plain unlikeable (looking at you Preston Garvey and Marcy Long from Fallout 4!)
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I think a "relationship" or something might work in the scenarios such as above. Girlfriend/boyfriend/floozie/fuckboi whatever.... Marriage, not so much. Too much paperwork and puts you on the grid or whatever legal system is in place.
Relationship: Yes. There is no hassley paperwork and it makes sense to cultivate relationships (living worlds do have leisure activities Gwent/Horse Racing/etc)
Marriage.... Too much paperwork.
Relationship: Yes. There is no hassley paperwork and it makes sense to cultivate relationships (living worlds do have leisure activities Gwent/Horse Racing/etc)
Marriage.... Too much paperwork.
reidyboy102998;n8273230 said:
I think you're overthinking it a bit, there. Animalfather just wants a half naked girl walking around the place.
Zagor-Te-Nay;n8282120 said:I think you're overthinking it a bit, there. Animalfather just wants a half naked girl walking around the place.
Maybe - but actually I like reidyboy 102998 idea better,Also having leisure suite activities and NPCs who like/dislike you based on your choices would be an immersion improvement even without the marriage feature. For half naked girls you can still add a strip club to night city ...
WalteriusMaximus;n8266840 said:
Oh, hello. It is I, your Politically Correct Moderator.
All sexual orientations and genders are present in Cyberpunk. Being a male post-op with a fetish for groups is not only totally a thing, it's actually pretty Cyberpunk. Sex in the Dark Future is pretty unrestricted compared to our timeline. So, that.
Hammering a game or developers because they include a gender or sexual preference you don't share or feel somehow offends your sense of ..realism? Proportion? (Something to do with sexual choices that aren't yours and don't concern you?), is bigotry. Doing that around here is not a good idea at all. I am not merciful on that subject.
If you want to hammer the writing because you feel such a relationship is poorly done, sure. But do not hammer it because you feel homosexuality has been "wedged in" against your wishes and that only heterosex or whatever flavour of fun you like best should be present.
In short, in Cyberpunk, yes, every sexual orientation should be accounted for, if they are going to have sexual relationships. It's 2077, not 1953.
Sardukhar;n8283090 said:
Quoting this both for posterity, for future historians to reference, maybe for some politicians to read and think on, and because it is pretty much a perfect summation on the appropriate way to deal with sexuality in general.
Sardukhar;n8283090 said:
Sard, come teach etiquitte classes. I have students (and parents) that need this pounded into their skulls.
Sardukhar;n8283090 said:
This.
I would like to go home and it not be this empty house (like my IRL situation). Having someone(s) there would be nice. Not sure about marriage, but romances would be nice. I enjoyed having the ghoul living with me in VTMB. I personally hope we have a lot of romance/sexual situations we can do. I always wanted to play a james bond character that gets all the ladies and uses seduction along with badassery. Some should be flings, other long term relationships. Like real life, a corp could sleep their way to the top. What would be cool is a homage to fallout 2 where you could be a prostitute/porn actor(ress) to earn fame/money. I actually can see a way marriage could be usefull and that is inheritance. Say you find some rich person, marry them, and then they have an...accident and you inherent everything. Then again, you marry someone and they divorce you getting half or more of your stuff. Finding the right partners and making them happy is what counts. I really hope for a lot of encounters and not just a few very limited characters. There is a whole city out there and it would be weird to be so limited.
Sardukhar;n8283090 said:
I suppose he means that that stuff shouldn't be glowingly highlighted with overenthusiastic exposure and held forced quotas for, almost like an advertisement; as it seems to be with Bioware...
You know, like this: