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Getting word that Xbox360 version is the very good!

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secondchildren

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#101
Apr 17, 2012
I'd like to gently remind to the gentlemen involved here to avoid insults and keep up a friendly conversation, only.
 
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xboxmember1978

Rookie
#102
Apr 17, 2012
geminix said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0LZmxD7Yi8

Gerald nude body, especially scars, appear a lot more blurry on my high end pc. Xbox looks better.
Maybe is cause of lighting
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You think these are blurry?





 
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geminix

Rookie
#103
Apr 17, 2012
Yes. Shoulder skin is blurred in first photo and scars are blurred/low res in the last one. Compare face detail wth scars and body details
 
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xboxmember1978

Rookie
#104
Apr 17, 2012
geminix said:
Yes. Shoulder skin is blurred in first photo and scars are blurred/low res in the last one. Compare face detail wth scars and body details
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Can you post screenshots of the same scene from the Xbox? That would be hilarious seeing a screenshot up that close from an Xbox version! Seeing the Xbox version on a 5x5 compressed video isn't going to cut it
 
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zaany

Rookie
#105
Apr 17, 2012
Console versions has better graphics than the PC? I call bullshit. Its the nature of consoles that they are always a step behind in regards to computing power. Thats why the graphics are also usually scaled down on the pc versions - because consoles couldnt run them otherwise.
 
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xboxmember1978

Rookie
#106
Apr 17, 2012
I would LOVE to see some screenshots scenes matching the ones I posted above from the Xbox version, especially the first pic!
 
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rolfgang

Rookie
#107
Apr 17, 2012
Are we really comparing graphics to decide which version looks better? Of course the PC version looks better, it always does compared to console games, since they have much more power (depending on the pc). Just that it looks less good on the 360 than on the PC doesn't mean however that the 360-version looks just goddamn nice... FOR A 360 GAME!! It's the same to compare Metroid on the NES with Metroid Prime 3 on the Wii, different platforms, with different power, different graphics.
 
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mrowakus

Forum veteran
#108
Apr 17, 2012
Rolfgang said:
Are we really comparing graphics to decide which version looks better? Of course the PC version looks better, it always does compared to console games, since they have much more power (depending on the pc). Just that it looks less good on the 360 than on the PC doesn't mean however that the 360-version looks just goddamn nice... FOR A 360 GAME!! It's the same to compare Metroid on the NES with Metroid Prime 3 on the Wii, different platforms, with different power, different graphics.
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This comparison of yours is hellova stretch, you know? They are basically two different games from different epochs. It's like comparing NWN1 with TW2.

But I agree with you that we needn't get trolled by an xboxer. We just know the facts, and all facts indicate high-end PCs have better performance.

Anyhow, is it really that omportant to compare graphics?
 
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227

Forum veteran
#109
Apr 17, 2012
Mrowakus said:
Anyhow, is it really that omportant to compare graphics?
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We'll see who has the final laugh when a terrorist kidnaps you, holds a gun to your head, and then asks you, "Which is the more graphically superior version of The Witcher 2?"

Upon providing irrefutable proof of the answer and thus dissuading your kidnapper from murdering you, you can then proceed to beat them to death with your massive e-peen (having grown large from being superior on the internet, of course). See, this is important on all kinds of levels and totally not petty point-scoring. Totally.
 
MattS71

MattS71

Senior user
#110
Apr 17, 2012
Got my 360 copy today........can't wait.
 
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n4meless1

Senior user
#111
Apr 17, 2012
AlterEqo said:
I only play 3rd Person perspective games on a console so the Xbox 360 version is superior for my play style )
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You are aware that you can hook up your PC to TV, and play with the controller?
 
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bcheero

Senior user
#112
Apr 17, 2012
n4meless1 said:
You are aware that you can hook up your PC to TV, and play with the controller?
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People think that's tedious lol. I hooked my PC version to the TV and it looks so beautiful. It only took an HDMI cable and a quick monitor change in the settings.
 
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cattleclysm

Rookie
#113
Apr 17, 2012
WrATH72 said:
It's not superior on the XBox and CDPR only say that because of marketing. The fact is that the XBox360 version has been cut down a lot in fidelity and it misses a lot of high level graphics features.

XBox360 Version:

Less polygons on characters
Reduced scenery detail
High quality post processing removed
No SSAO
No light shafts
No high quality depth of field, scatter depth of field
Reduced LOD distance
Reduced shadow quality
Reduced texture quality
Reduced lighting quality
Reduced decals
No wet surface rain effects?

All that and even the PC version is limited by DX9. CDPR won't do DX11 because it's probably too much work for them with the XBox360 release.
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API does not matter. You only use DX11 if you need it's features. DX11 features doesn't worth the effort for most games.

Look at Crysis 2 and how they implemented DX11, they literally poured millions of polygon on flat surfaces to make it more 'realistic' in reality, all they were doing was promoting Nvidia cards over ATI because thanks to CUDA Nvidia cards didn't see those hidden polygons.

DX11 is only there to make things easier for developers who want to use developer or soft shadows. In the end, no matter what API the game uses, it is the developers' skill that matter.

or for games like Crysis 2, DX11 is there for advertisement purposes.
 
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n4meless1

Senior user
#114
Apr 19, 2012
PC vs Xbox comparison video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znaVLNO9qyQ&hd=1
 
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xboxmember1978

Rookie
#115
Apr 19, 2012
These compressed video's don't tell the whole story although doing the video side by side like this video you can see a major difference but it's still compressed. There is no way to actually tell the full differences this way, high res screenshots FTW
 
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n4meless1

Senior user
#116
Apr 19, 2012
Yeah, but even so, you could clearly see how much the PC version looks better. Some console players are bragging that the Xbox version is equivalent of PC version on high settings, which is ridiculous. I've played the game on box, and it's more like medium to low..
 
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xboxmember1978

Rookie
#117
Apr 19, 2012
I agree. I have both too and the first thing I noticed with the Xbox was the resolution. It's definitely being upscaled because there is no way it's 720p or 1080p. Looks more like 670p
 
Ancient76

Ancient76

Senior user
#118
Apr 21, 2012
Gunrun said:
Can you guys even read. He says NO ONE is arguing that the 360 is technically superior.

However, doing blind tests on a sibling who hardly plays video games, they state that the 360 version looks either the same or better.

What we have here is a difference between art and graphics. The 360 version has better art and that is what is important. I'm pretty annoyed that the EE didn't give us PC users the changes to scene lighting.
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360 version can look similar, it's the same game after all, but it can't look better.
First thing is that consoles can't have high-res textures. Also they can't render high number of polygons. These are basic graphic elements for achieving details.

Artistically both version are very similar. 360 version has different colors because many post process and lighting effects are disabled.

That's it.
 
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WrATH64

Forum regular
#119
Apr 21, 2012
Cattleclysm said:
API does not matter. You only use DX11 if you need it's features. DX11 features doesn't worth the effort for most games.

Look at Crysis 2 and how they implemented DX11, they literally poured millions of polygon on flat surfaces to make it more 'realistic' in reality, all they were doing was promoting Nvidia cards over ATI because thanks to CUDA Nvidia cards didn't see those hidden polygons.

DX11 is only there to make things easier for developers who want to use developer or soft shadows. In the end, no matter what API the game uses, it is the developers' skill that matter.

or for games like Crysis 2, DX11 is there for advertisement purposes.
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DX11 is much better in a lot of ways and the only reason it's not used so much is because of consoles, it's also fast and so is DX10. There are quite a few DX10 games that perform much better in DX10. DX9 is limited, CDPR onyl did DX9 probably because the engine is crossplatform, other than that there is not much reason to use DX9.

As for Crysis 2, well, if you look past the conspiracy theory's, Crysis 2 DX11 is one of the best looking games out there because of the better implemented graphics tech in DX11.
 
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WrATH64

Forum regular
#120
Apr 21, 2012
n4meless1 said:
PC vs Xbox comparison video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znaVLNO9qyQ&hd=1
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Comparison videos on youtube are useless they really are and they remove a lot of fidelity, especially from the pc version. In the end the XBox360 version is good for it's hardware but ultimately not nearly as good as the PC version.

There is also a bit of unfair comparison going on because CDPR adjusted some things in the XBox360 version which they claim looks better.
 
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