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triprunner

Senior user
#81
Mar 8, 2015
B l a d y said:
i think characters models are vastly superior than those form debut trailer but not from SoD
also lighting was changed

i have nice pic for lighting change
compare light quality on buildings in background

vgx trailer



it looks simpler now more stylized and catoonish
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The light... the light is gone... oh boy
 
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Senteria

Forum veteran
#82
Mar 8, 2015
Oh dear not another downgrade thread. Look, play the game when it comes out on the max possible settings, if you can even muster them, then compare it to the screenshots and videos. If they are worse than what was shown, then you can complain.
 
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Sorowfortesque

Rookie
#83
Mar 8, 2015
Not this again.... Can you just wait ?
 
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moonknightgog

Forum veteran
#84
Mar 8, 2015
senteria said:
if you can even muster them,
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Hoping is not optimized like Assassin's Shit Parity.
 
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Attar

Banned
#85
Mar 8, 2015
Somebody better make a HD BETTER GROUND AND FOLIAGE MOD
 
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AndreasZ94

Rookie
#86
Mar 8, 2015
The game as it looks right now runs below 60fps on high settings with a gtx 980 and I7 ( the best graphics card right now). If they made the game look as before only a few people would be able to run it even on medium. Yes, consoles are one of the factors responsible for that but please don't throw all the blame on consoles because you are disappointed. Its not fair and offensive.
Although I would like the game to look a litgle sharper than it looks right now.
 
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triprunner

Senior user
#87
Mar 8, 2015
Ok, my last repeat on this thread: where are the videos to compare? There's only high(ish) Xbone setting and nothing else besides the first trailer. No wonder people are speculating. In these times gamers don't want to get shafted with false promises so they want information on their product all of it. Claiming "it will blow you mind after buying it" is a snake oil salesman's pitch form a bad western, not a thing you say to potential customers.

All that nonsense would've been resolved if a PC demo running Ultra at 60fps been released, alas... Is it down to Microsoft suppressing it, or because the build can't handle it? Exactly. Speculations fill the void of lack of information.
 
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Ljesnjanin

Forum veteran
#88
Mar 8, 2015
Well, if somebody is concerned about quality of final product - cancel preorder, wait until May, read reviews, watch gameplay vids...Than decide what to do, buy it or not...

Moonknightsg said:
Assassin's Shit Parity.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Mozalbete

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#89
Mar 8, 2015
AndreasZ said:
Its not fair
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Yes, it's not like consoles have already caused a huge downgrade and simplification in several games. Not at all
 
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Sephira

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#90
Mar 8, 2015
I have to say my post has not much to do with the technical discussion over here.

I love how everytime a new thread for criticism and criticism pops up. A lot of users never take a look to the forum and come back to criticize minor things. Users who come back just to spread criticisms and then they vanish from the forum as the storm is over.

Don't get me wrong, criticism is welcomed. Or at least, a good criticism, not some unarticulated one, not a mere spitting on every thing.
No, all the downgrade critics are about rocks which don't look that good. Woe to say something about the gameplay or the mission.

I remember also how Sword of Destiny trailer was criticized and now instead people praise it as a benchmark. I remember first screenshots marked as "bullshots" or marketing.

If this is the new part of the "fanbase" then I'm worried. Because I see only posts where people say that they do this because they care about the game and want it to be perfect. It is not worthy of the "fanbase" name then. Let's be honest, nothing is perfect, those are not some platonic ideas.
You criticize only because you care but are you sure? Are you not sure instead that a FULL critic is something more useful to point on posts and make a full discussion over the whole video/gameplay? We should make a post with the pros and cons.

The previous thread was full of lions who liked to bite other one's throat. Hope this will be not the case. Also, relying on console war is just childish. Please. Please don't be childish.
 
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dragonbird

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#91
Mar 8, 2015
gregski said:
Looks like 300 pages of the previous thread weren't enough, oh well.

So, before it gets too hot in here, a little preemptive moderator guidance:

1. Keep it civil.
2. Please do not attack other members of the forum, neither personally nor in general (statements like consolitis, casuals etc are to be kept out of here)
3. Do not engage in general platform wars
4. Do not attempt any kind of trolling or flamebaiting
5. Stick to discussing on basis of merit, stick to the facts and have something to back up your arguments with


As the previous thread effected in a huge amount of vitriol and hostility between forum users, this one will be closely monitored and action will be taken by moderators if rules above are not adhered to.
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I'm going to add another couple of ground-rules here:
6. If you're thinking of posting some variation of "Oh no, not this again" without any explanation of WHY you think it's unproductive, don't. It's not helpful and any further one-liner posts of that nature will be treated as flamebaiting.
7. The topic is TW3. Not ACU, not Watch Dogs. We have a perfectly good sub-forum for discussing other games, so if you want to discuss another game, go there. Further posts here regarding other games are subject to deletion.
 
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Mozalbete

Rookie
#92
Mar 8, 2015
SephiraV said:
No, all the downgrade critics are about rocks which don't look that good. Woe to say something about the gameplay or the mission.
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The problem with what you say is that there are little to no reason to downgrade gameplay. I have almost never heard of gameplay downgrade, but there are several reasons to downgrade graphics, and, you want it or not, almost all of them are related to consoles and can be explained with detail and examples.

This thread is not about gameplay, this thread is about graphical downgrade. There are already, many threads about gameplay, and a thread about the video.

In order to add a little more to the thread, I will mention that the state of vegetation and geometry worries me more and more, it's really simple. The characters models haven't got half as much importance as the environment.
 
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AndreasZ94

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#93
Mar 8, 2015
Mozalbete said:
Yes, it's not like consoles have already caused a huge downgrade and simplification in several games. Not at all
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My point is that its not just consoles that are to be blamed but also the fact that very few people have $3000 pcs with 3 way sli to run the game as it was before. Especially if you think that a single gtx 980 cant run the game on high at 60fps with nvidia hairworks disabled (rumor).
 
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Sneky

Rookie
#94
Mar 8, 2015
triprunner said:
Ok, my last repeat on this thread: where are the videos to compare? There's only high(ish) Xbone setting and nothing else besides the first trailer. No wonder people are speculating. In these times gamers don't want to get shafted with false promises so they want information on their product all of it. Claiming "it will blow you mind after buying it" is a snake oil salesman's pitch form a bad western, not a thing you say to potential customers.

All that nonsense would've been resolved if a PC demo running Ultra at 60fps been released, alas... Is it down to Microsoft suppressing it, or because the build can't handle it? Exactly. Speculations fill the void of lack of information.
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What are u talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8kQ4s5hCY - Gameplay from august 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgJUL3nN4iI - Gameplay from january 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c514jP4hbJI - Gameplay from march 2015


CDPR is pretty open and straightforward how the game looks, and how development going. We got first gameplay almost a year before the game is out.
 
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harkinsteven

Senior user
#95
Mar 8, 2015
I didn't want to believe it but there is a CLEAR downgrade based on what we've seen. They have said that they are keeping ultra settings for launch but at the minute what we see if BAD compared to previous footage.
 
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Mozalbete

Rookie
#96
Mar 8, 2015
AndreasZ said:
Especially if you think that a single gtx 980 cant run the game on high at 60fps with nvidia hairworks disabled (rumor).
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A $1000 modern PC should be far, more than enough to run the game on ultra at 60fps. Anything under this means incompetence.
 
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dexter2

Rookie
#97
Mar 8, 2015
Actually my only concern is about volumetric clouds and weather effects. You can see how georgus it looks on debut gameplay trailer. I can't see any of that on gameplays.
 
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moonknightgog

Forum veteran
#98
Mar 8, 2015
SephiraV said:
Woe to say something about the gameplay or the mission.
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But I said a lot yesterday about witcher senses and how they should be implemented in quest design. :(
 
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Mozalbete

Rookie
#99
Mar 8, 2015
dexter2 said:
Actually my only concern is about volumetric clouds and weather effects. You can see how georgus it looks on debut gameplay trailer. I can't see any of that on gameplays.
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They mentioned how those are ultra settings, which haven't been shown yet
 
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moonknightgog

Forum veteran
#100
Mar 8, 2015
Dragonbird said:
7. The topic is TW3. Not ACU, not Watch Dogs. We have a perfectly good sub-forum for discussing other games, so if you want to discuss another game, go there. Further posts here regarding other games are subject to deletion. [/COLOR]
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Yeah but...make a comparison between W3 and those games is not OT. Am I wrong?
 
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