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well, may be in your fantasys
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How first one can possibly be better (lighting\grass\reflections (im not about character models - they are better in final footages, im speaking about environment)?
you are literally comparing a lake to a city..... thats even more impressive than apples to oranges..... seriously
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is it my imagination or does a post that says pretty much EXACTLY the same thing as this one, come up every few days??? this thread is a broken record
For me SOD looks much better. Debut trailer / vgx looks generic for me. Lighting doesnt exist in debut trailer. Grass is the same.well, may be in your fantasys
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E3 2013 and VGX Screenshot pack
How first one can possibly be better (lighting\grass\reflections (im not about character models - they are better in final footages, im speaking about environment)?
Because you wouldn't be able to compare IQ and graphical fidelity unless the two scenes were exactly the same, right?
There's a a fair amount of info you can gather and reasonably deduce from comparing the two shots.
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you can deduce that completely DIFFERENT places look DIFFERENT.....
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"OMG GTA5 looks like shit !!!! worst graphix evarr" - not directed at any1 i swear (just a euphemism)
this is from the "Debut gameplay" - to the guy saying debut gameplay looked way better than what we got now.
http://puu.sh/gz4hu/3e5ec5213b.jpg
http://puu.sh/gz4wf/ec5fc89a06.jpg
http://puu.sh/gz4zG/fc29a0412f.jpg
tell me with a straight face that those look better than (37min demo, January gameplay, GDC gameplay, PAX gameplay)
Doubt physx is in, they said its not in some article awhile back, consoles have hairworks too.
First time posting....
I've followed this game since day 1 and watched all the trailers/gameplay videos. It's a fact that this game looks different from what originally got shown (SOD/VGX). It's clear that CDPR has continued on the stance of 'no downgrade' and that has frustrated a good portion of PC users who do see the 'downgrade'
Parity across systems (XB1/PS4/PC) is real and wouldn't be surprising if the language was built into contracts with Microsoft/Sony. Will CDPR outright say and show that PC version is superior? Nope - they have a relationship with Microsoft/Sony and most likely agreed upon terms.
The real question(s) is if we'll ever see the game graphics which were shown to us in SOD/VGX trailers? Will ultra settings bring it to SOD/VGX levels? or will this turn into another Watch Dogs fiasco where parity was across the board and the PC version had to be modded (3rd party) to bring it E3 debut trailer level.
All we can do is wait and see.
I've followed this game since day 1 and watched all the trailers/gameplay videos. It's a fact that this game looks different from what originally got shown (SOD/VGX). It's clear that CDPR has continued on the stance of 'no downgrade' and that has frustrated a good portion of PC users who do see the 'downgrade'
Parity across systems (XB1/PS4/PC) is real and wouldn't be surprising if the language was built into contracts with Microsoft/Sony. Will CDPR outright say and show that PC version is superior? Nope - they have a relationship with Microsoft/Sony and most likely agreed upon terms.
The real question(s) is if we'll ever see the game graphics which were shown to us in SOD/VGX trailers? Will ultra settings bring it to SOD/VGX levels? or will this turn into another Watch Dogs fiasco where parity was across the board and the PC version had to be modded (3rd party) to bring it E3 debut trailer level.
All we can do is wait and see.
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Consoles DO NOT have HairWorks, it doesn't exist.
PhysX is a bit flaky right now yes, the slides showed "GPU PhysX" but it hasn't been mentioned recently so I guess we'll see but the Nvidia site does say PhysX and AFAIK they don't put that checkmark there for APEX stuff that runs on CPU.
Well I had some time so i decide to find out something more about the grass...personally (i repeat, PERSONALLY) what I didn't like in the last 2 min trailer was the fact that grass has poor textures and that it bend like if it is made in a single panel of cardboard...(sorry if some pics are blurry couldn't find uncompressed videos...). Here it's what I mean:
Watching again VGX and SOD trailer (that according to many ppl here on the forum are the best so far) I noticed that there were already that low res and flat textures...here a few screens:
Probably due to the nature of the trailers (more fast and cinematic than proper gameplay) I didn't noticed...more pics will follow...
Watching again VGX and SOD trailer (that according to many ppl here on the forum are the best so far) I noticed that there were already that low res and flat textures...here a few screens:
Probably due to the nature of the trailers (more fast and cinematic than proper gameplay) I didn't noticed...more pics will follow...
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My fault?? Sorry mate...it's just to spend time till the 19th of May!
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I'm doing good thanks for asking
Listen, I personally dont believe the story that Ultra is for release only. I think it was something Monnier said improvising, and now CDPR are using that statement as if it was part of a strategy, but I dont think it is at all.
IMO this is what they are doing: "let's say Ultra will be seen just at release, so that if we make new trailers and people dont like them, we can keep saying its High, and then improve based on the complains for when release actually happens" This is actually somewhat reasonable, because remember the two months before release, that work from the team, will have to come in a day one patch, because disks get made before. So I think the statement is their way of saying "there's a real possibility the game will look at its best at release, and not before"
And honestly, seeing how many comments are out there screaming "downgrade!!!", maybe they dont want to give hopes to a whole bunch of people that are impossible to satisfy anyway. Even if Ultra would miraculously look much better than High in all fronts, the hate TW3 gets at this point is beyond graphics, beyond art direction, and beyond rationality, so what they do is just let people believe in release day or not by themselves.
I think at this point absolutely nothing can be done about the "hardcore" downgrade crowd, whatever trailer or comparison CDPR gives them, they won't believe that at least some part of the game wasnt downgraded. All that there is left are those doubting, like you and me maybe, who could use Ultra footage, but again, why confirm to us how the game looks before release? whats the point? CDPR knows TW3's core sales come from people who like RPGs and story based games, and that the graphic whores are impossible to convince, so why show it when the game could look better after the Ultra trailers?
Its just very complicated, there are too many variables and possibilities, and CDPR see everything from a different perspective to. I dont think there's any explanation that convinces me much for their behavior, but at the same time I can totally believe there might be some good ones, that I couldn't possibly know. So thats my stance basically, some moves are just the result of a long chain of events that is far beyond my scope and knowledge, in this complex situation it'd be highly unlikely that there wouldnt be some kind of reason to hide Ultra, its unrealistic, so i keep that chance open.
Other than that, about Marcin's word, I never "believe" what he says just like that, I was just reporting what he said to the other guy, nothing more, and what Badowski said in one of the later interviews. If its true or no I don't know, I think part of it is, and another part isnt.
Oh well. You see, I remember a time, then the only thing people had to worry or to "hate" about before the release of a Witcher-game was the hair style of the main protagonist.
I miss this times. But it is not the fault of the fans, that they seem to be over.
I miss those times too, and I also think its not the fault of the "fans" or should I say haters, its CDPR's fault, at least initially.
Sorry, didn´t want to sound to harsh. Lets hope for the best - that means ressources on CDPs side to polish the game after release. It isn´t fair to outsorce this kind of work to the Mod-Community. I´m still looking Forward towards the third Witcher. Storywise. I also looked forward towards the astonishing visuals they kept presenting. This came to an end then I saw the PaxEast footage. I´m investing approx. 300,- € in my rig to get this thing running on medium details. At the moment I have the feeling what I get in exchange is a Bob Ross - painting that moves and has a nice music score.
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