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Mozalbete

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#121
Mar 8, 2015
slimgrin said:
This says it all for me. The old pics looked sharper and that's it.
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The old pics show higher quality assets and in huge quantities, not a handful of cut-outs

This cinematic wasn't made by cdpr but by plaige image, models, testures and all asset is made from scratch for trailer purpose only.
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And?
 
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dasega

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#122
Mar 8, 2015
Mozalbete said:
The old pics show higher quality assets and in huge quantities, not a handful of cut-outs


And?
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In a trailer, the developers can use different camera angles, and show fun to see scenes, but that's it.

BS?
 
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adventus.219

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#123
Mar 8, 2015
My favorite part.

http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4

Downgrade? Ok. So what?
 
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Mozalbete

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#124
Mar 8, 2015
dasega said:
BS?
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The video I posted was an example of the only thing where assets can't be compared to normal gameplay. That phrase is about the normal trailers, not CGI trailers
 
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CoconutChriss

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#125
Mar 8, 2015
adventus said:
My favorite part.

http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4

Downgrade? Ok. So what?
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I'm in!

:listen:
 
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moonknightgog

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#126
Mar 8, 2015
adventus said:
My favorite part.

http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4

Downgrade? Ok. So what?
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Ground textures are really low res. .___.
 
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gregski

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#127
Mar 8, 2015
Moonknightsg said:
Ground textures are really low res. .___.
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And the wind picking up sand and blowing it around? How many other games do it with that much detail?
 
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Sephira

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#128
Mar 8, 2015
Mozalbete said:
The previous topic was closed under the rather terrible excuse that there was no new content to talk about. This or course was a msitake, and now there is a new topic, since the other one wasn't reopened. What a surprise.

PC vs Consoles is justified when consoles are the cause of almost any downgrade. When the game is out, if there is a downgrade, people must complain. The mustn't ignore it, that's a terrible behaviour, it encourages hiding bad things, letting them pass. People are free to enjoy the game, but they shouldn't support developers who downgrade a game. The bare minimum is to complain about it.

The fact that it must be confirmed doesn't mean people shouldn't be concerned until then. If screenshots or videos look worse, then people should complain and ask for explanations. And devs should respond with more screenshots, not PR talking.

I don't care about console versions. Until they affect the PC version, more or less directly.

If any downgrade is confirmed, then people should be really mad, and they will be.

The new trailer has obvious terrible quality, but it seems to be from One. The question is how big will the difference be. Didn't they say that assets would be the same. Because if that's the case, there are several textures which are already downgraded, and geometry seems to be very bad. So far, only the character models look really good, but these aren't important compared to the environment.
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As I said before, criticism is always welcomed, but the right criticism, not simple spitting. Previous thread was closed also because people continued insulting each other about old material, and it got closed after 300 pages if I recall correctly.
Anyway, if there are bad things, yes let's point them out in a good manner, because right criticism helps developer. My answer to your post is almost like my first post in this discussion.

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adventus said:
My favorite part.

http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4

Downgrade? Ok. So what?
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Mmmh, delicious. :p
 
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501105

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#129
Mar 8, 2015
gregski said:
And the wind picking up sand and blowing it around? How many other games do it with that much detail?
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A charming effect to be sure, but one that collides with ground and plants that look like they are taken from a different game due to lack of detail.
 
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Manowar0264

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#130
Mar 8, 2015
The last time I saw a thread like this, the game got delayed.
 
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Phinnway

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#131
Mar 8, 2015
gregski said:
And the wind picking up sand and blowing it around? How many other games do it with that much detail?
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Not to mention the way the foliage bends in the wind coming off the sea. Maybe other games have done that too, idk. But it looks incredible. Having camped on the coast of the great lakes before I can tell you that's exactly what it's like near large bodies of water.
 
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shtempik

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#132
Mar 8, 2015
Hmm to be honest there are some really really good parts but that last link, http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4 it kinda looks like it's either Xbox or medium graphics on PC...
Not trying to bash or anything, just saying what it looks like to me.
 
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501105

Forum veteran
#133
Mar 8, 2015
shtempik said:
Hmm to be honest there are some really really good parts but that last link, http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4 it kinda looks like it's either Xbox or medium graphics on PC...
Not trying to bash or anything, just saying what it looks like to me.
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I agree somewhat, it is almost like textures and plants are put on low/medium while the more taxing effects like the wind/dust is turned on.
 
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Dylaniskillen

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#134
Mar 8, 2015
They are giving us 16 pieces of free dlc, and it's definitely gonna be worth the $69.99 price tag here in Canada. I can't say that for most games THE ORDER 1886 7 HOURS STORYLINE BS
 
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eskiMoe

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#135
Mar 8, 2015
Finnway said:
Not to mention the way the foliage bends in the wind coming off the sea. Maybe other games have done that too, idk. But it sure looks incredible.
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Yup. The stuff they're doing with the physics in the game look pretty intense.

Can't wait to see how the game looks maxed out.
 
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B_l_a_d_y

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#136
Mar 8, 2015
gregski said:
And the wind picking up sand and blowing it around? How many other games do it with that much detail?
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i replayed new vegas recently, there are those dust effects
 
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xDeithwenx

Senior user
#137
Mar 8, 2015
Giorad said:
Thank you. I was about to write something like that. It's easy to forget what you choose to forget and go on and on.
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Since this was more directed at me than anyone else I felt the need to reply. I haven't forgotten ANYTHING, and that wasn't really my point; my point was my reason for being on the forum is to talk about the graphics and enabling discussion regarding the graphics (and, hopefully, getting a few solid answers), hence why I don't contribute to other threads regarding gameplay aspects etc. Also, as for forgetting...I don't follow this game 24/7, I just read the occasional news article and read the forums; I probably don't know as much as a lot of people here, and I certainly wasn't aware of their being options to toggle HUD elements.

Call me ignorant, choosing to forget, whatever...I've always been honest when posting here, and I apologize if it seems as if my lack of knowledge was viewed as an attempt to pick and chose what to reply to.

adventus said:
My favorite part.

http://a.pomf.se/jbtifc.mp4

Downgrade? Ok. So what?
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See, I look at that and although I like some things, overall I think the graphics are worst than The Witcher 2. Personal preference, but that is my opinion.

gregski said:
And the wind picking up sand and blowing it around? How many other games do it with that much detail?
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Plenty, since you appear to be unaware. :)
 
SofaJockey

SofaJockey

Senior user
#138
Mar 8, 2015
The graphics look very nice.
I watched the Pax gameplay demo a moment ago,
it looks to be of similar quality to Dragon Age which I've played a load of over recent months.

(e.g. riding my horse and fighting a dragon on the Storm Coast)

I'm struggling to see what folk are concerned about.
Detail and performance are always a compromise and it looks fine.
 
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AvengerGrim

Senior user
#139
Mar 8, 2015
I'd like to ask a general question, does anyone believe that The Witcher 3, considering it is a huge open world game, doesn't look as good as it should? I mean, we can nit pick little details all we want but overall, do you think the game look sub par? Also, what is more important to you, textures or technology (aside from artistic design, story, ect...), texture-wise it's not perfect, but CDPR never claimed that it would be, however technologically speaking, there is nothing to say, is there?

Another thing I wonder, what are you comparing The Witcher 3 with when you talk about "next-gen" or how good the graphics are? Because it is important to remember that the Witcher 3 isn't like any games, it is, so far, the biggest games (map/world) since the new generation of consoles came out and since we have seen a major increase in visual quality of games.

I'd also like to point out (again) that we don't know the setting at which these gameplay videos are running at, we expect high but we don't know all the little setting, it's not a flash game with 4 settings, is it? We can also see that the screens OP did (the early ones) clearly looks like they have a sharpening filter on them.

Not even sure exactly what I am trying to say really, but I don't see the point in discussing a potential "downgrade" based on gameplay vs screenshots vs trailers, it seems to be completely sterile to me, oh well.
 
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moonknightgog

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#140
Mar 8, 2015
AvengerGrim said:
, texture-wise it's not perfect, but CDPR never claimed that it would be, however technologically speaking, there is nothing to say, is there?
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http://thewitcher.com/witcher3/av


Speaking about the art design, I don't like the fact that it is all full colored and cartoonish. It doesn't fit well with a dark/low fantasy setting. It is artistically incoherent, IMO.
 
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