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Grass fix + FCR — how?

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molvetica

Rookie
#1
Apr 20, 2014
Grass fix + FCR — how?

In the initial release for the FCR it states that one of the creator's favorite mods to use with it was the grass color fix.

As of right now, the mods are incompatible. If I have my FCR mods active then the yellow light show grass is in effect. If I disable the FCR mods then the normal colored grass comes back.

Is there any way to fix this? The FCR made the game's combat soooo much better, but I can't take this yellow grass pop in. It's utterly mind blowing that CDPR never fixed this after they broke it with the EE.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#2
Apr 21, 2014
CDPR can't be asked to take responsibility for mods or compatibility between mods.

Maybe somebody conversant with modifications to FCR 2 will add the grass color fix or modify the grass color fix to be compatible with FCR 2.
 
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molvetica

Rookie
#3
Jun 6, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
CDPR can't be asked to take responsibility for mods or compatibility between mods.
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No, but they can be asked to not patch their game with the wrong LOD grass texture causing horrific yellow pop-in wherever you go. The only reason the grass color fix is even needed in the first place is because CDPR janked up the grass in one of the patches.

I just want to play this game with the correct colored grass and the FCR. :(
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#4
Jun 6, 2014
I think I may not have explained my point well enough.

CDPR can't provide fixes that will work with a game you have installed a third-party mod to. FCR is not their work. Making games work the way you want them to with FCR installed is not their responsibility.

It's fair to ask them to fix the basic game, though it's not going to be done, because there's already a mod that does it.

But demanding any kind of support for a game that has been modded is quixotic. No developer will do that.
 
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molvetica

Rookie
#5
Jun 6, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I think I may not have explained my point well enough.

CDPR can't provide fixes that will work with a game you have installed a third-party mod to. FCR is not their work. Making games work the way you want them to with FCR installed is not their responsibility.

It's fair to ask them to fix the basic game, though it's not going to be done, because there's already a mod that does it.

But demanding any kind of support for a game that has been modded is quixotic. No developer will do that.
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Since when is the FCR "not their work?"

And I'm not asking for them to make a mod compatible, I'm asking them to fix the basic game so a mod isn't needed in the first place. The grass was just fine before the Enhanced Edition was released. With the EE, some genius at CDPR pasted in a wrong grass texture. As a result, the two textures used for grass (the low quality "distant" texture and the high quality "LOD" texture) are different colors. So when running around in a grassy area the grass in your immediate vicinity will jarringly turn bright yellow whenever you get close, then back to the normal green as it gets further away.

The problem is that the LOD distance is EXTREMELY close, and it's painfully obvious during gameplay. This can't be fixed by changing the foilage distance in the INI as that only changes how far away the actual foliage is rendered in the first place, not which texture is used on it. There's no official way to change the texture LOD setting, it's baked into the engine and it is what it is.

The point of all this is that this is a bug that CDPR introduced with the 3.0 release of TW2. Prior to that, the grass textures for both distant and high quality were the same color. Green. After 3.0 they're now two colors. One green, one yellow. CDPR did that. A mod didn't do it. CDPR did.

So here we are in 2014, the problem that CDPR introduced still isn't patched, and now I have to choose between playing a game with good combat and jarring, immersion-killing grass pop in or a game with absolutely terrible combat and immersive environments. That's ridiculous, especially when this texture thing could be fixed by one of their artists in less than an hour. It's the wrong color. Just change it back to the right one.

Geez.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#6
Jun 6, 2014
Since when is the FCR "not their work?"
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It was never their work. FCR is a mod created by Flash, who was not then employed by CDPR, on his own initiative.

Even if they fixed the game, which is unlikely, they are not in a position to fix it in a way that is compatible with FCR.

You can have the game with the grass fix. Or you can have the game with FCR. Or you can have your grievance.
 
v00d00m4n

v00d00m4n

Senior user
#7
Jul 3, 2014
Uou did not get it, let me explain it for you.
Mods was not crated by CDPR, but GRASS BUGS and POOR COMBAT DESIGN THAT THESE MODS attempts to fix, was created by CDPR, and problem is that 2 MOD fixes for CDPR bugs and design are not compatible with each other, and if only CDPR could fix grass bug, than no grass fix mod would be required and combat rebalance mod could be used without problem. But because CDPR does not fix this bug, some people can fix only grass or combat, but not both together.
Capiche?
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#8
Jul 3, 2014
As Guy said almost a month ago, there's no fix around that solves the grass problem while FCR is active.

If you're just posting to complain about the game, please go ahead, but if you want something done about it, you're probably better off asking within the modding community. I suggest you tone down the attitude a bit if you DO want help - whatever your grievance about the game, lashing out at other people in the forums isn't an acceptable way of expressing it.
 
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