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Vincentdante

Vincentdante

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#21
Sep 12, 2014
So stupid question of the day, which would be more economical for a new build? The new 900 series or a current 700 series GPU? Some of the more technical parts of analyzing a GPU goes over my head.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#22
Sep 12, 2014
vincentdante said:
So stupid question of the day, which would be more economical for a new build? The new 900 series or a current 700 series GPU? Some of the more technical parts of analyzing a GPU goes over my head.
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Well by definition newer would be better since it'll be for a new build and that means you get more 'years' out of your GPU when it comes to playing at higher settings, but 'economical'.... generally speaking there isn't a massive difference between GPU series these days. If you get say a GTX770, then it will be almost equivalent of whatever x70 card comes out with the next series in real world performance(970 in this case).

With Maxwell coming out 700 series will likely get cheaper so there's no harm in going with it.
 
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Sam44

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#23
Sep 12, 2014
saoe said:
Nothing to use it on, current cards are more then enough to play any game in 1080p. People (gamers) take gaming to serious. Extra few pixel wont change your gaming experience. Unless you have a job with no financial commitments or life plans you can spend all your money on 1000-2000$ GPU to play warcraft.
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I bought a GTX 680 Ti last year for 350 bucks and I suppose it will do me good for the next four years to come. 1080p speaking, 1440p is a luxury I can't afford :p.
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

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#24
Sep 12, 2014
Red0oG said:
I bought a GTX 680 Ti last year for 350 bucks
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Never heard of a card like that.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#25
Sep 12, 2014
eskimoe said:
Never heard of a card like that.
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There are 660, 660 Ti, 670, 680 and 690 (double). 680 wouldn't cost $350, so it probably was 660 Ti.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_series
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

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#26
Sep 12, 2014
Gilrond said:
There are 660, 660 Ti, 670, 680 and 690 (double). 680 wouldn't cost $350, so it probably was 660 Ti.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_series
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Yup. That's what I thought as well.
 
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EliHarel

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#27
Sep 12, 2014
Is there another, better card expected to come out around TW3's release?
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#28
Sep 12, 2014
Nope. They don't come out THIS FAST. Although hmm..maybe AMD's new lineup but not around TW3's release.
 
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EliHarel

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#29
Sep 12, 2014
sidspyker said:
Nope. They don't come out THIS FAST. Although hmm..maybe AMD's new lineup but not around TW3's release.
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So the best computer I can build at the moment is identical to the one I'll be able to build in February, other than price? If that's the case, maybe I won't wait.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#30
Sep 12, 2014
eliharel said:
So the best computer I can build at the moment is identical to the one I'll be able to build in February, other than price? If that's the case, maybe I won't wait.
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As far as I'm aware yes. I don't think AMD's new architecture or GPUs are coming that fast someone else feel free to correct if the case is otherwise.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#31
Sep 12, 2014
@eliharel : If you already have something around high end Nvidia card from 600 series, then you better wait until they introduce their next iteration with 16nm transistors, since it will be a big step up in efficiency (unless these 900 cards will be using it already). The pattern I noticed - cards power consumption grows with newer versions until some significant change is introduced, then power drops down. Then it starts growing again. The best spot to buy a card if you want lower power consumption option is right when they just introduced that change. Lower power consumption means wider choice of PSUs, less cooling needed, less noise and lower electricity bills ;)
 
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sidspyker

sidspyker

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#32
Sep 12, 2014
Huh...Apparently AMD's Tonga based GPU is supposed to come out this month too, so you can wait a bit if you're interested in what AMD has to offer.
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

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#33
Sep 12, 2014
sidspyker said:
Nope. They don't come out THIS FAST. Although hmm..maybe AMD's new lineup but not around TW3's release.
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Nvidia might release a Ti model of the GTX 980 at some point.
 
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EliHarel

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#34
Sep 12, 2014
Gilrond said:
@eliharel : If you already have something around high end Nvidia card from 600 series, then you better wait until they introduce their next iteration with 16nm transistors, since it will be a big step up in efficiency (unless these 900 cards will be using it already). The pattern I noticed - cards power consumption grows with newer versions until some significant change is introduced, then power drops down. Then it starts growing again. The best spot to buy a card if you want lower power consumption option is right when they just introduced that change. Lower power consumption means wider choice of PSUs, less cooling needed, less noise and lower electricity bills ;)
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Heh, not quite. Using a notebook at the moment, and it's starting to show disturbing signs.

sidspyker said:
Huh...Apparently AMD's Tonga based GPU is supposed to come out this month too, so you can wait a bit if you're interested in what AMD has to offer.
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Noted, thanks. My grades are saved for a little longer then.
 
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GuyNwah

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#35
Sep 12, 2014
I still want to see them in stock and shipping. TSMC's booked up through the end of the year, and nVidia has nowhere else to go to for production. AMD's in the same boat, after they divested their plants. New facilities are expensive and take a long time to bring up.

Fabless is a great business model... until your fab partner finds it more profitable to deal with Apple instead of you.
 
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eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#36
Sep 19, 2014
Inno3D GTX 980 iChill.



http://wccftech.com/inno3d-geforce-gtx-980-ichill-air-boss-herculez-x4-cooling-unveiled-custom-designed-boosts-1329-mhz/
 
Fallout_Wanderer

Fallout_Wanderer

Senior user
#37
Sep 19, 2014
GTX 970's in SLI are looking really attractive at that price point considering price/performance. I'll be waiting to around Feb./Mar. before making any final decision, need to wait for the non-reference cards, additional reviews & benchmarks. I have a EVGA 770 SC 2gb right now and it's still holding up quite nice. I need to make sure the upgrade is worth it for the price.

If I don't end up going SLI (Never had a SLI set up before) I'll just sell my 770 towards a single GTX 980. That will still be a nice upgrade coming from the 770 2gb IMO. As long as I can play TW3 Ultra or close to Ultra I'll be happy. TW3 is primarily the reason I'll upgrade to begin with. Really want to experience TW3 in all it's glory :D

*Edit* I completely forgot about the 960. Going by the pricing of the 970's @ $330 ( I initially thought they were $300), I'd think they would go for around $250-280? Depending on specs, the 960's would be the best bang for your buck price/performance going SLI beating a single 980 at around the same price or possibly less depending on MSRP. (Having a 4gb variant is paramount for that statement to hold.)

Just like the preceding 660 & 760 were ideal SLI set up cards concerning price/performance. I'm thinking a single 960 will be a nice affordable option for a lot of people who might not have a lot of disposable income but still want to either upgrade or build a gaming rig and still get decent gaming performance for their money.

If you can afford it and do not mind SLI then 2 970's look like one of the best options right now. Single card set up - I would go for the GTX 980 over the 780 ti. Improved TDP, Maxwell tech. ( good on paper but I haven't seen it in action) and 4gb VRAM reference.

I would need to upgrade my PSU to go SLI. So there is that there that might keep me going single GPU.
 
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eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#38
Sep 19, 2014

So basically. Overall better performance vs 780Ti with considerably smaller TDP and cheaper price.

Sweet.
 
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Vigilance.492

Ex-moderator
#39
Sep 19, 2014
Damn, the 970 is going to be without a doubt the go-to card. That value for money is fantastic.

Can't say the same about the 980 though, just doesn't seem to have nearly the performance difference to warrant the $220. I'd much prefer to just shell out another $110 on top of that and get SLI 970's.
 
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eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#40
Sep 19, 2014
Vigilance said:
Damn, the 970 is going to be without a doubt the go-to card. That value for money is fantastic.

Can't say the same about the 980 though, just doesn't seem to have nearly the performance difference to warrant the $220. I'd much prefer to just shell out another $110 on top of that and get SLI 970's.
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I was actually thinking about the same as well. The 970 only has a 145W TDP so my AX760 would easily handle couple of them, even with CPU overclocking.

But I would rather have a strong single GPU still. Like I've stated previously I'm not a fan of multi GPU setups.
 
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