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OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

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#161
Jun 9, 2020
Well on a positive note Siegfried will remove all those spy tags and the Nilfgaardians will hate him.

Amnesty is really Nuts for a bronze card it makes the expensive Muzzle look like a bad joke (Sieze a 5 point Card and Lock it for 12 p)
That Card will be really bad for engine decks.
 
Solan7

Solan7

Forum veteran
#162
Jun 9, 2020
IMPORTANT NEWS !!!!

Description of 2 new cards (Fergus and Amnesty) have been changed on official card reveal site:
www.playgwent.com

GWINT: Wiedźmińska Gra Karciana

Zagraj w ulubioną grę mieszkańców wiedźmińskiego świata! W GWINCIE stawisz czoła innym graczom w dynamicznym starciu; tutaj liczą się twoja intuicja, umiejętność improwizacji i rozważne dobieranie kart.
www.playgwent.com www.playgwent.com

They're way less OP now :)
Sorry for link to Polish version, but card's descriptions are in English.
 
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OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#163
Jun 9, 2020
Solan7 said:
IMPORTANT NEWS !!!!

Description of 2 new cards (Fergus and Amnesty) have been changed on official card reveal site:
www.playgwent.com

GWINT: Wiedźmińska Gra Karciana

Zagraj w ulubioną grę mieszkańców wiedźmińskiego świata! W GWINCIE stawisz czoła innym graczom w dynamicznym starciu; tutaj liczą się twoja intuicja, umiejętność improwizacji i rozważne dobieranie kart.
www.playgwent.com www.playgwent.com

They're way less OP now :)
Sorry for link to Polish version, but card's descriptions are in English.
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Still kind of crazy for a 5 provision card seize a SY Defender Bug or a Redanian Archer and boost it by 2, I think seize should be gold exclusive.
 
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DRK3

DRK3

Senior user
#164
Jun 9, 2020
Solan7 said:
IMPORTANT NEWS !!!!

Description of 2 new cards (Fergus and Amnesty) have been changed on official card reveal site:
www.playgwent.com

GWINT: Wiedźmińska Gra Karciana

Zagraj w ulubioną grę mieszkańców wiedźmińskiego świata! W GWINCIE stawisz czoła innym graczom w dynamicznym starciu; tutaj liczą się twoja intuicja, umiejętność improwizacji i rozważne dobieranie kart.
www.playgwent.com www.playgwent.com

They're way less OP now :)
Sorry for link to Polish version, but card's descriptions are in English.
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What is Collusion? A mechanic they still havent revealed?
 
Solan7

Solan7

Forum veteran
#165
Jun 9, 2020
DRK3 said:
What is Collusion? A mechanic they still havent revealed?
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Probably yes, or it's some mistake. And if it's new mechanic, it means that they may have more new mechanics, for example dedicated to Monsters.
 
OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#166
Jun 9, 2020
I think they just changed it quickly after reading some of posts here or on reddit and wrote collusion instead of Conspiracy because the revealed Card has conspiracy on it.
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

Moderator
#167
Jun 9, 2020
Collusion and conspiracy are synonyms. Pretty clear case.
 
InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Senior user
#168
Jun 9, 2020
Solan7 said:
IMPORTANT NEWS !!!!

Description of 2 new cards (Fergus and Amnesty) have been changed on official card reveal site:
www.playgwent.com

GWINT: Wiedźmińska Gra Karciana

Zagraj w ulubioną grę mieszkańców wiedźmińskiego świata! W GWINCIE stawisz czoła innym graczom w dynamicznym starciu; tutaj liczą się twoja intuicja, umiejętność improwizacji i rozważne dobieranie kart.
www.playgwent.com www.playgwent.com

They're way less OP now :)
Sorry for link to Polish version, but card's descriptions are in English.
Click to expand...
Why is it now (with Devotion) able to Seize 4 point units (and 2 without it) ?
Is that not arguably even more absurd ?
(And to think Vigo's Muzzle costs 11, is a Gold card, locks the unit and only has 1 more point of reach).
 
Solan7

Solan7

Forum veteran
#169
Jun 9, 2020
OneWhoCravesSouls said:
I think they just changed it quickly after reading some of posts here or on reddit and wrote collusion instead of Conspiracy because the revealed Card has conspiracy on it.
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It's the worst scenario, becouse that would mean that they change the mechanics of cards without testing their balance first.
 
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Pacifixer

Pacifixer

Senior user
#170
Jun 9, 2020
Solan7 said:
It's the worst scenario, becouse that would mean that they change the mechanics of cards without testing their balance first.
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I seriously doubt that.
 
OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#171
Jun 9, 2020
The one's on playgwent are outdated and the revealed ones are correct.

Source reddit
IMG_20200609_203620.jpg
 
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Six-Sided-Prism

Six-Sided-Prism

Forum regular
#172
Jun 9, 2020
OneWhoCravesSouls said:
The one's on playgwent are outdated and the revealed ones are correct.

Source reddit
View attachment 11044937
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That's unfortunate. I find the Amnesty listed on the website to be better designed; although, both versions should really have their provision cost increased to 6. 5 provisions for 8 points is absolutely too good when you're getting those points from seizing enemy units.
 
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InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Senior user
#173
Jun 9, 2020
Six-Sided-Prism said:
That's unfortunate. I find the Amnesty listed on the website to be better designed; although, both versions should really have their provision cost increased to 6. 5 provisions for 8 points is absolutely too good when you're getting those points from seizing enemy units.
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The one that can seize 4 strength units is far more broken though, I would argue it is worse designed.
 
Pacifixer

Pacifixer

Senior user
#174
Jun 9, 2020
InkognitoXI said:
The one that can seize 4 strength units is far more broken though, I would argue it is worse designed.
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Doesn't that 4p Seize work only on spies?
 
InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Senior user
#175
Jun 9, 2020
Pacifixer said:
Doesn't that 4p Seize work only on spies?
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No, that one is just "Seize a unit with 2 or less power, Devotion: 4 or less".
What is Collusion supposed to mean anyways (it is clearly not Conspiracy though) ?
 
DRK3

DRK3

Senior user
#176
Jun 9, 2020
The seize is much more bearable if the higher threshold is only for spying units. Even if the point potential its the same, its completely different a NG player stealing the spy he posted than stealing one of your engines.

And i realize there are ways now (or there will be...) to make spying units, but at least you will have a chance to purify those and counter that play.
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InkognitoXI said:
No, that one is just "Seize a unit with 2 or less power, Devotion: 4 or less".
What is Collusion supposed to mean anyways (it is clearly not Conspiracy though) ?
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You're mistaking devotion with conspiracy/collusion. The latter is a mechanic that works only if the target is a spying unit, which makes sense for this seize tactic. If it was Devotion, it would be almost a 5p Muzzle that you can play 3 or 4 each match...
 
OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#177
Jun 9, 2020
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Six-Sided-Prism

Six-Sided-Prism

Forum regular
#178
Jun 9, 2020
Pacifixer said:
Doesn't that 4p Seize work only on spies?
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That was what I thought when I first read the card, but after posting that comment just now, I decided to look up the keywords again. Apparently, Conspiracy is when you target a unit with Spying. Strangely, Collusion isn't defined or even listed in the Master Mirror keyword video, so I have no idea how you would be able to seize a 4-Power unit with the original version of Amnesty.

EDIT: Ignore this comment. My question regarding Collusion was answered as I was typing this post.
 
BabyLeshen

BabyLeshen

Forum regular
#179
Jun 9, 2020
Now Shilard and Amnesty will become bros. A well timed Shilard can pretty much seize best tall cards from Monsters. I wonder if Damien could fall into this trap...
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

Moderator
#180
Jun 10, 2020
Mage Infiltrator revealed by Vulcantic:
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She could get rid of those Endrega Larvae, for example. Seems like a pretty useful card in general.
 
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