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Has anyone else noticed the obvious graphical downgrades?

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Garret117

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#41
Aug 19, 2014
archav3n said:
Well considering CDPR treats gamer equally, it's no big deal that PC version was gimped. It's the same thing as the UI that they promised but was not given. They have to treat all platforms equally so i think we probably very much need to deal with it.
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That's not how it works. If they would use every bit of power from XBOne and PS4 while downgrading graphical quality on PC just for making it "equal" they would put PC gamers on a lower level, cause we won't enjoy the maximum graphical experience we could get.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#42
Aug 19, 2014
If this thread is going down the route of complaining about the CE stuff I'm locking it down, get back on topic.
 
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kevokoma

Senior user
#43
Aug 19, 2014
Aww that sucks. Ah well still looks gorgeous but I admit it could have been much better.

So I guess we should never trust early footage as a representation of the final quality huh.

If the downgrade is true I would really like them to just accept it and not pull a Ubisoft and insist there was no downgrade.
 
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AboundingTbone

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#44
Aug 19, 2014
kevokoma said:
Aww that sucks. Ah well still looks gorgeous but I admit it could have been much better.

So I guess we should never trust early footage as a representation of the final quality huh.

If the downgrade is true I would really like them to just accept it and not pull a Ubisoft and insist there was no downgrade.
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Nothing will ever be on par with Ubisoft's downgrade severity.
 
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Sharpy47

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#45
Aug 19, 2014
Called it before. Obviously it doesn't look as good as it was first shown in various trailers etc. Game looks good and that's it, to me it's certainly not spectacular or something - but for such a huge game I think the graphics are okay and we shouldn't expect something like Skyrim with Ultra-Photorealistic mods (atleast not on consoles).

I also hope that Witcher 3 will be Mod-friendly so we could have photo-realistic mods like with Skyrim. When you compare vanilla Skyrim against Skyrim with some of the sickest graphical mods/textures/effects made for high-end PCs - it's like day and night! Imagine that with Witcher 3 too.
 
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archaven

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#46
Aug 19, 2014
Sword of Destiny is freaking awesome trailer. But much that i've doubt it's perfectly CG but it was mentioned as in-game. But it's true it doesn't look as good now.
 
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Garret117

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#47
Aug 19, 2014
DukeAlmighty said:
Yes, it's obvious that this is worse graphics than on the trailers.
Harpies don't drop feathers when you hit them (even TW2 had that effect), also the fire on the grass.
But I think we shouldn't worry to much about this at this state.. it's still work in progress.
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It's not the fact that this is still WIP, but that the graphics were way better in June and it's been worsened now. CDPR must say something about this, even if the downgrade is in act, but at least it will be clear.
 
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Mr. Barvo

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#48
Aug 19, 2014
In that photo you clearly see some "downgrades" of graphics. Though i believe we should wait until the game comes out before we bash CDPR (maybe we shouldn't do that anyway). I must say that i noticed some "downgrades" since the VGX trailer, but we also has been shown a lot more footage lately.

At last, who cares if there is a slightly downgrade? It still looks good and PC gamers are gonna mod it anyway.
 
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sidspyker

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#49
Aug 19, 2014
Garret117 said:
It's not the fact that this is still WIP, but that the graphics were way better in June and it's been worsened now. CDPR must say something about this, even if the downgrade is in act, but at least it will be clear.
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What reason would they have? This game isn't coming to PS3/360 there isn't any other reason to do so.

Also let's not forget, they pulled this off last time
 
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Jupiter_on_Mars

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#50
Aug 19, 2014
archav3n said:
You have to understand PC is no longer CDPR main platform. In business, money come first. It's all about money. That is why the XB1 CE exclusives card happened. Nothing for me or anyone to bend over it. CDPR has broken their core values. Isn't that obvious already? Even you get worked all out, CDPR is not going to change. Besides the latest trailers looks not that bad. So just judge it when the games out later.
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Stop it with the passive-aggressive behaviour, will you?
We have been told by a mod not to duplicate the whole Xbox One controversy thread, a controversy that is completely beside the point in this regard.

You head off to the other thread if you're that eager to discuss the matter. This one needs not to get locked if we are to get to the bottom of this.
 
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sidspyker

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#51
Aug 19, 2014
AboundingTbone said:
EDIT: Here's more http://i.imgur.com/ZOU1X9v.jpg
For example, the foliage at the top is a LOT denser than the bottom. The bottom has grass spread out with terrible textures beneath.
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The upper screenshot is of a place that is complete in it's 'beautification' so to speak, even though it's not ready as you can clearly see but the grass there is handcrafted the one in Downwarren only shows computer generated grass placement i.e. it's not complete. First a layer of generated grass and then placement of things to make it look better and more 'organic'. Standard practice.
 
tommy5761

tommy5761

Mentor
#52
Aug 19, 2014
After reading quite a few pages from different journalists who went to Gamescom and saw the demo . The one thing they mostly agree on and that would be that Witcher 3 is the most beautiful game they have ever seen . So who am I to argue with that .
 
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AboundingTbone

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#53
Aug 19, 2014
sidspyker said:
The upper screenshot is of a place that is complete in it's 'beautification' so to speak, even though it's not ready as you can clearly see but the grass there is handcrafted the one in Downwarren only shows computer generated grass placement i.e. it's not complete. First a layer of generated grass and then placement of things to make it look better and more 'organic'. Standard practice.
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I'm not doubting you, but how do you know this is the exact case? Specifically the scenario that you stated in regards to Downwarren?
 
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AboundingTbone

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#54
Aug 19, 2014
Tommy said:
After reading quite a few pages from different journalists who went to Gamescom and saw the demo . The one thing they mostly agree on and that would be that Witcher 3 is the most beautiful game they have ever seen . So who am I to argue with that .
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While it is beautiful, game journalists aren't exactly the most reliable people at times; however, I don't doubt that it will be one of the most beautiful games. Also, despite it being a very good-looking game, that doesn't mean it isn't downgraded.
 
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Mr. Barvo

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#55
Aug 19, 2014
sidspyker said:
What reason would they have? This game isn't coming to PS3/360 there isn't any other reason to do so.
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He maybe mean that CDPR don't want the game to look better on any platform and therefore adjust the graphics to the weakest platform (Xbone and PS4). Though that's just speculating and i don't believe that. It's probably a technical issue where they have to pull down the graphics to be available to show live gameplay. And then pull it back again before release (after more optimising). But then again, you'll be able to mod it on the PC platform and do all the things the developers couldn't or didn't want to do.
 
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crimzonwarrior

Rookie
#56
Aug 19, 2014
Performance>Graphics

Everyday of the week.


Anyway that little point aside. You are deicing on the games final quality based on images from random chunks of an unfinished project in various states of development. So of course you will see massive spikes, and dips in quality. Honestly this is why game developers don't like revealing any footage of their game until its essentially golden because of stupid shit like this.
 
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AboundingTbone

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#57
Aug 19, 2014
crimzonwarrior said:
Performance>Graphics

Everyday of the week.


Anyway that little point aside. You are deicing on the games final quality based on images from random chunks of an unfinished project in various states of development. So of course you will see massive spikes, and dips in quality. Honestly this is why game developers don't like revealing any footage of their game until its essentially golding because of stupid shit like this.
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Why show something that is better when it will inevitably be downgraded? And what's nice about PC is that you can adjust settings for better performance.
 
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sidspyker

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#58
Aug 19, 2014
AboundingTbone said:
I'm not doubting you, but how do you know this is the exact case? Specifically the scenario that you stated in regards to Downwarren?
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Well because other areas in that very video you pointed out look 'complete-ish' while Downwarren doesn't.

Look at the area with the hill where the Harpies are.
Look at when he's running through the ruins at 26:15.
 
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archaven

Rookie
#59
Aug 19, 2014
Tommy said:
After reading quite a few pages from different journalists who went to Gamescom and saw the demo . The one thing they mostly agree on and that would be that Witcher 3 is the most beautiful game they have ever seen . So who am I to argue with that .
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There's a different with gameplay demo and actual in game upon release. Watch Dogs ring a bell? But of course i'm hopeful.
 
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Sharpy47

Rookie
#60
Aug 19, 2014
Im not expecting the game too look anything like in those first-early UBER nice screenshots.




And now this is how the actual game looks like from up-close.... Now Im certainly sure that I won't buy new GPU to experience such things in the game.. I hope there won't be so much uglyness in the final product... *Please don't be another Watch Dogs, please don't be*
 
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