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HDR implementation is broken

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mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#1
Dec 19, 2020
The whole HDR implementation is broken on all platforms. :(

@CDPR: please watch this Video from HDTV Test:

 
mewpokemon

mewpokemon

Forum regular
#2
Dec 19, 2020
I am running with HDR enabled and I was quite frequently unable to see anything because it was either way too dark or way too bright.

Some of it was an element of role-play, though... Like trying to find your way around or having the enemies shine a flashlight in your face which I especially liked, actually. However, future counter-measures would be appreciated like having cyberware or sunglasses to mitigate the effects (and look cool).

They are fixing the HDR reproduction in the 1.05 patch though, yeah?
 
mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#3
Dec 19, 2020
in the 1.05 patch notes CDPR only wrote the following:
  • Added some warmth to HDR.
 
mewpokemon

mewpokemon

Forum regular
#4
Dec 19, 2020
I guess I thought that it might mean less sharpness/contrast, more depth. Not sure...
 
mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#5
Dec 21, 2020
Vincent from HDTV Test has uploaded a new video where he compares HDR with SDR after patch 1.05.
Unfortunately, HDR is still broken:



I really can't understand how something like that can happen and that nobody noticed when testing the game before it was released. Since the PS4 Pro was released in 2016, almost all AAA titles have been published with HDR support. I am only aware of one prominent case where it had similar problems and that was RDR2.
 
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daisho.102

Forum regular
#6
Dec 21, 2020
HDR was or is very bad in Doom Eternal (completely over-saturated ingame, the map was washed out so much that you could not see anything in it on the other hand) for example. I also had major problems with Hellblade (everything washed out, looked horribly greyish) at the beginning - but there was some problems going on with Windows 10 HAD to put in their own HDR implementation breaking old drivers etc. > then nvidia had to implement their own stuff and/or repair compatibility with windows 10 hdr ... as an "early adopter" it felt horrible and like a joke honestly.

I guess developers hardly have any knowledge about the whole color-space stuff and so HDR often turns out like some simple "oh we add those options and voila" but in reality they just get wrong colors etc. and often having different results in menus (2d) and ingame (3d).

Yeah, it would be nice to have a fix for that soon, because usually we gamers want to experience the game in it's full glory but often HDR looks like it was just a dirty addon instead of real support for it.
 
mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#7
Dec 21, 2020
In console games, HDR has been the absolute standard for 4 years now and the problems you described usually don't exist.
The only two games that had such problems are Red Dead Redemption 2 (fixed with patch 1.09) and Cyberpunk 2077.
Even The Witcher 3 received an HDR patch on consoles in 2018 and looks fantastic.
 
Last edited: Dec 21, 2020
Tracido

Tracido

Forum veteran
#8
Dec 21, 2020
mrc247 said:
Vincent from HDTV Test has uploaded a new video where he compares HDR with SDR after patch 1.05.
Unfortunately, HDR is still broken:



I really can't understand how something like that can happen and that nobody noticed when testing the game before it was released. Since the PS4 Pro was released in 2016, almost all AAA titles have been published with HDR support. I am only aware of one prominent case where it had similar problems and that was RDR2.
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I've been fighting with HDR in this since the start, I saw his original video, and not this one, thanks for sharing.. More head shaking on my end here, though..
 
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Aegdju

Rookie
#9
Dec 21, 2020
I can't understand how this issue was overlooked... With the amount of work on the lightning effects in Night City this is a major issue, the art direction and the game world deserve better than a half working HDR.

HDR highlights would really benefit the game but it's just unusable in its current state.
 
jordangold527

jordangold527

Forum regular
#10
Dec 21, 2020
I have no idea about all this technobabble. All I know is that if I go into a room where it isn't blaring daylight or look at a shadowy corner at any time of day, I don't want everything to be pitch black and impossible to see in.

I hate needing to bump up the brightness/gamma by 20 points just to see shit then need to bump it back down to see in the light afterwords. That's not how eyes work.
 
mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#11
Dec 22, 2020
It is really disappointing. Nightcity should have been an HDR showcase with all the neon lights etc., but unfortunately it is unplayable when HDR is switched on. On the PS5 there is also the problem that the console always outputs HDR, regardless of whether it is activated or deactivated in the game. You have to disable HDR in the PS5's system settings, but then of course it is disabled for all games. It's frustrating. :(
 
Tracido

Tracido

Forum veteran
#12
Dec 22, 2020
mrc247 said:
It is really disappointing. Nightcity should have been an HDR showcase with all the neon lights etc., but unfortunately it is unplayable when HDR is switched on. On the PS5 there is also the problem that the console always outputs HDR, regardless of whether it is activated or deactivated in the game. You have to disable HDR in the PS5's system settings, but then of course it is disabled for all games. It's frustrating. :(
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The game is a tech demo, run by corps, managed by the worst and deserves what's coming to it.

HDR is just another drop in the bucket list of trash this game will forever be known for.
 
mrc247

mrc247

Fresh user
#13
Dec 22, 2020
Tracido said:
The game is a tech demo, run by corps, managed by the worst and deserves what's coming to it.

HDR is just another drop in the bucket list of trash this game will forever be known for.
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I don't see it as negatively as you do. All problems the game has can be fixed, except maybe the low resolution and the bad frame rate on the last generation consoles.

The Witcher 3 wasn't perfect when it was released and had a lot of bugs and was still a milestone and even after 5 years it is still the best action RPG ever made.

Ok, The Witcher 3 was in better shape than Cyberpunk when it was released, but I haven't given up hope that CDPR will fix most of the problems.

I'm just afraid it will take months ...
 
Tracido

Tracido

Forum veteran
#14
Dec 22, 2020
mrc247 said:
I don't see it as negatively as you do. All problems the game has can be fixed, except maybe the low resolution and the bad frame rate on the last generation consoles.

The Witcher 3 wasn't perfect when it was released and had a lot of bugs and was still a milestone and even after 5 years it is still the best action RPG ever made.

Ok, The Witcher 3 was in better shape than Cyberpunk when it was released, but I haven't given up hope that CDPR will fix most of the problems.

I'm just afraid it will take months ...
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With all that stock loss? You really think the new managers who didn't care at all how this launched will suddenly change character?

I'm at a loss but I'm listening..
 
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