At first I loved this guys. But then he goes on and on saying the same thing over and over. Nevertheless. The Devs should really see this. Because this dude knows what he is talking about.I think this review of the HDR aspect of the game is appropriate for this topic. Safe to assume, his finding also apply to the PC version.
This guy's vid just confirmed my initial theory. the devs were working in the wrong gamma range to begin with when they wrote the game. look at the end of this guy's video when he's in the apartment in SDR mode. Even in SDR mode, nothing in the scene that's supposed to be black touches or anywhere near "0" on the spectrum. this tells me that the developer's monitors where incorrectly calibrated to begin with. my guess is that their monitor was calibrated in gamma 3 or 4, which sees all 20~30% IRE scale to be same as 0% IRE. so they lit their entire game using 20 or 30% IRE as BLACK as oppose to 0% IRE as black. so when the game reaches the consumer, all our monitors are set in the gamma range of 2.2 or somewhere close to 2. Our 20/30% IRE is actually dark grey. so everything looks washed out. This is worst than i thought. Based on this, in reality, their SMPTE curve more resembles a horizontal curve
The only other reason to explain this is that they intentionally wrote the game with this muddy washed out look using a standard gamma 2 monitor. At this point of their widely criticized PR, i honestly wouldn't be surprised if they come out and say that that's intentional. But honestly, who in their right mind would do that, what kind of Art Director would design a look like this in a game is beyond me.
All in all, the problem goes way beyond HDR. 1st the HDR mode is not properly tone mapped, and no proper black reference image is included. Then, we find out that even in SDR mode, the game is using the wrong black level as black.
i've already submitted a ticket to refund my game. this is just not worth my time and money.
It's not related to Nvidia, the guy on the video I posted tested the HDR level on Xbox series X and PS5.
But in my case, looking at certain areas in the game like that strip under the window sill in V's apartment, it can't be the whole story because it is is much blacker than would be possible if it were limited to 709 bandwidth.
Looking at a single strip of color in a bright area doesn't mean anything. Bandwidth is for connection speed, not colors.
Looking at a strip or anything in a scene is just guess and shooting in the dark. You won't know until you measure it with a color meter. my i1Display pro clearly says it all. The game's black dynamic range needs rework. The Nvidia setting is just to override any ICC profile that you may have enabled or adding additional correction on top of the ICC Profile. It doesn't fix anything. But theoretically you could compensate the offsetted black level by lowering the gamma setting in the Nvidia color tweaker but that again doesn't fix the problem of the game and you're once again just guessing how much to lower to compensate. The game is botched. We can either play it the way it is or they have to fix it. The entire dynamic range needs to be remapped. And there's no way the end user can correctly accomplish that without the development knowledge of their color space.
It was just a point in the game where everyone could find easily and see what they thought on their own systems. To me it showed that whatever I was viewing was outside of the normal range, but there are still places that seem faded like Lizzy's bar.
The 1.05 patch is coming to PC soon. It has already arrived on consoles and from what I've seen from some players, they are very happy with how they have fixed HDR. I guess it won't be ready for PC until Monday now?
I'm sorry can you translate all this from alien to english please? not because you're bad at english, but because I'm dumb as a rock when it comes to this technical stuff about monitor gamma and image. I'd like to know in "orchish language" what I'm supposed to do to have a decent image on my monitor, if there's an easy way to explain it of course.
Like "you bash dis, stuff better"