Trying to supress the fire on the Brazilian community. People are quite angry
Pretty much.
If you compare what is happening here with stuff like Wolfenstein's upcoming DLC, or BioWare's recent one, there really is no controversy surrounding those DLC's besides people who might feel the content isn't value for money.
CDPR really should have been more sensitive to the current gaming climate, and not made the mistake of announcing this stuff so early.
I continue to expect sense from CDPR's PR/Marketing team, which I should know by now they don't have much. That said, when you peel away the issue of timing, the "Expansions" themselves sound fantastic and it should be very neat additions to the game, hopefully they don't mess them up (That chance is why I won't throw money blindly at the pass).
Fair enough. So I went to read your previous posts on this thread so that you won't have to repeat yourself.
Still not understanding the point.
Alright. Not getting much out of this.
What I'm getting from this is that CDPR are locking away content. But don't you say yourself later that...
Wait, do we know that content is locked, or do we not know?
Which is it?
You're suggesting that products which are going to be released in half a year from now are already done, and that the content is locked away from us. You have done nothing to establish this and have done nothing to refute the very reasonable beliefs that if something is not yet releasing, it's probably because it's not yet ready. And that if new content will be worked on for half a year, it's understandable for it to be charged for.
Alternatively, if the products are not yet made (a scenario you don't seem interested in accepting, even for discussion purposes), you don't explain why it's bad to charge for them once they are made.
Then it's a weird term which is confusing and not helpful. Just call it an expansion pack. And be upset if it's indeed artificially delayed. If it's being developed, there is no point to be upset.
The pricing I presume? As far as I've understood it brazilians tend to get shafted on everything gaming related, the same as australians.
Me neither, honestly. The only thing I got from it, is that "pass" is a totally weird term for any of this. Since everybody agrees that artificial delays and artificially cut content are bad, no one is really arguing with anyone.
$20 - $25 for 30 hour expansion pack in retail is about right. $25 for digital, ya, no. $10 - $15 for digital expansion pack is about right.
Well $25 for the expansion pack and a Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. Might be worth it then. Am I really at the point where I'm imagining paying just to get some Cyberpunk 2077 news. Oh God please let me stop thinking.
On that note. Why releasing this expansion pack info now before the game is out. Is this a diversion from the main game. Like will the main game be shit. There is a downgrade thread everytime there is gameplay released. Is this exapnsion info to get us off that 15 minute gameplay. Where is the downgrade thread this time, oh, new expansion packs, what downgrade. I need to stop thinking. lol.
Well $25 for the expansion pack and a Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. Might be worth it then. Am I really at the point where I'm imagining paying just to get some Cyberpunk 2077 news. Oh God please let me stop thinking.
On that note. Why releasing this expansion pack info now before the game is out. Is this a diversion from the main game. Like will the main game be shit. There is a downgrade thread everytime there is gameplay released. Is this exapnsion info to get us off that 15 minute gameplay. Where is the downgrade thread this time, oh, new expansion packs, what downgrade. I need to stop thinking. lol.
umm what? You seriously think they should make all that content for free and give it to us for free? I take it you are very new to PC gaming and was not around in the golden age when expansions were big and made with high production values and nothing like the DLC we get today, and we the gamers back then loved having expansion packs. There is absolutely nothing anti consumer about this, if anything this is an entitlement issue from you.
You see? This is what we mentioned in the first 2-3 pages, it wasn't a right move to announce it right now. I 'm truly happy with it and i already bought it but it was too early.
It's an expansion pack with many hours of gameplay, even double the hours of a full game nowadays but it was a given that some gamers would react like this. They act like the worst bunch of entitled teenagers out there. Judging from a few people in this very thread, it was a good guess. They are now acting like the white knights against company policies without even being able to back it up, just basing it on this announcement.
It's an expansion pack with many hours of gameplay, even double the hours of a full game nowadays but it was a given that some gamers would react like this. They act like the worst bunch of entitled teenagers out there. Judging from a few people in this very thread, it was a good guess. They are now acting like the white knights against company policies without even being able to back it up, just basing it on this announcement.
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Ah yes, the olden days... (sniffs..) Old enough to remember, not old enough to forget. Something to tell the grandchildren at least.
Are you saying they are not allowed to make any kind of long term plans? That the only plans they are allowed to make is short term with only a single focus, that they should never even thought about expansions till the game gets released, leaving their artists and writers sitting on their hands doing nothing till the game gets released?
They can make all the plans they want. Short term. Long term. But in telling us the plans and the timing of telling us. The game is not even out yet. Most of the gamers have not even bought the game yet. And now their plan is for us to buy expansion passes when the main game has not even been released. Ya. we don't need this shit now. End of May or even close to when Batman is released, perfect time for this kind of announcement. And when the main game is out then they can look for more money from us.
Typical gaming industry move to get as much money out of gamers before the damn game is even out.
Typical gaming industry move to get as much money out of gamers before the damn game is even out.
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To me, it comes down to that he doesn't believe in long term planning, and they should only have a single focus. His logic is pointing towards that anything planned for the game prior to the games release should be included in the base game, cause doing any kind of long term planning means they are cutting content..
For 30 hours of content thats not right? There are full $60 games that aren't even half that long. Hell, $10-20 is where you find 5 hour indy games.
I don't see the issue, every gamer has free will, they do not have to pre-purchase. having the option is not bad, nobody is forcing anything.
It saddens me how many people cant trust CDPR.
They are the most honest Developer still out there i can think of.
If they say the Game was done last Fall contend wise and has been in optimization,bug fixing since. wich would mean the DLC s are NOT cut from the Game at all. Then i believe them.. until proven otherwise. I have no reason to distrust CDPR. And i wont punish them for the dishonesty of Developers like Bioware,Ubisoft etc... different Story...
Yes the timing is odd... but still the lack of trust saddens me a bit..
They are the most honest Developer still out there i can think of.
If they say the Game was done last Fall contend wise and has been in optimization,bug fixing since. wich would mean the DLC s are NOT cut from the Game at all. Then i believe them.. until proven otherwise. I have no reason to distrust CDPR. And i wont punish them for the dishonesty of Developers like Bioware,Ubisoft etc... different Story...
Yes the timing is odd... but still the lack of trust saddens me a bit..