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Sagitarii

Sagitarii

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#181
Jun 19, 2014
senteria said:
Uhm guys, Ciri is bisexual and will play a huge role in TW 3. Also in the books she had a good relationship with the other girl. Forgot her name. (Was it Mistle?)
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Wouldn't call that bisexuality, rather teenage curiosity - she was very young at the time.
But who knows what came out of it :)
 
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Senteria

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#182
Jun 19, 2014
Sagitarii said:
Wouldn't call that bisexuality, rather teenage curiosity - she was very young at the time.
But who knows what came out of it :)
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That will bring up a whole different discussion. I don't believe in teenage curiousity. You know who you feel attracted to and the thought of the other or same sex either seems interesting/nice or revolting. At least for me. Anyhow, she really did love Mistle.
 
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Sagitarii

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#183
Jun 19, 2014
senteria said:
That will bring up a whole different discussion. I don't believe in teenage curiousity. You know who you feel attracted to and the thought of the other or same sex either seems interesting/nice or revolting. At least for me. Anyhow, she really did love Mistle.
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I'm not saying she didn't love her - come to think about it was more than curiosity (at least later). So there I agree with you, but you really cannot deny "teenage curiosity about sex", because the percent of homosexual behavior, between youngsters (for example 9-14 age) is very high (or should I say, much higher than standard % of homosexual people in society). It mostly comes down to the fact that in these ages, boys mostly hang out with boys and girls with girls.

And I won't agree, that you know everything about your sexuality at the age of 14 for example. Early teenage years are the times of discovering yourself and kids are trying new things left and right. Such episodes - hetero or homosexual are very often - and few years later discovering that you really are attracted to different sex.

But yeah it will be interesting to see, what CDPR does to Ciri!

(is there an achievement for mentioning "sex" x times in your posts)
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#184
Jun 19, 2014
teenparty said:
The two least likeable characters in Witcher 2 are gay.
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Hey, what do you have against Dethmold and Philippa??? Dethmold is a great character, and Philipa is one of the bet female characters in the video-games!

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And Shilard and Henselt (which I liked less that Philipa and Dethmold) are heterosexual. My god CDPR hates heterosexual people.
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Hey, hands off Shilard! He is a patriotism personified, the man is practically the only one (well, Natalis is another one) who is doing everything only for his country, and not for some personal gain, and, unlike Roche, is not confused where his loyalties lie, and what his duty is! I love him, and I am not even a homosexual!
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#185
Jun 19, 2014
new&improved_vivaxardas said:
Hey, hands off Shilard! He is a patriotism personified, the man is practically the only one (well, Natalis is another one) who is doing everything only for his country, and not for some personal gain, and, unlike Roche, is not confused where his loyalties lie, and what his duty is! I love him, and I am not even a homosexual!
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Yea seriously, hands off our Witcher version of Metternich please.
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#186
Jun 19, 2014
senteria said:
That will bring up a whole different discussion. I don't believe in teenage curiousity. You know who you feel attracted to and the thought of the other or same sex either seems interesting/nice or revolting. At least for me. Anyhow, she really did love Mistle.
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Well, to be honest, Ciri did not have a choice in this matter when it started. It was pretty much who rapes her first - a boy or a girl. A girl won the contest. As you remember, she did not feel too great when she washed in the river in the morning.

The rest - for me it looked like a hostage syndrome, or something that abused victims experience - they get these feelings as protective mechanism. Rats sure were screwed up in many ways, ad I did not feel sorry FOR THEM when they were killed. Only for Ciri that she had to witness that. Her entire stint with Rats was pretty bad, and she would have been much better off without it.
 
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Sagitarii

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#187
Jun 19, 2014
new&improved_vivaxardas said:
Hey, hands off Shilard! He is a patriotism personified, the man is practically the only one (well, Natalis is another one) who is doing everything only for his country, and not for some personal gain, and, unlike Roche, is not confused where his loyalties lie, and what his duty is! I love him, and I am not even a homosexual!
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Implying that patriotism is always a virtue :p He was a good character definitely, but he was less likeable for me at least.
 
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Belzebutinov

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#188
Jun 19, 2014
new&improved_vivaxardas said:
Well, to be honest, Ciri did not have a choice in this matter when it started. It was pretty much who rapes her first - a boy or a girl. A girl won the contest. As you remember, she did not feel too great when she washed in the river in the morning.
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This. Ciri was at an extremely conflicted, complicated time in her life while that relationship lasted. She was orphaned, abandoned, lost, and her first sexual experience was pretty much non-consensual. Also, her experience with Auberon - a heterosexual experience this time - was also borderline rape (and in most countries, blackmailing a person into sex is flat-out rape). That's enough to screw up any adult, let alone a teenager, so there's no way to tell how she will react to those experiences as an adult; and since we have nothing concrete to help us guess, whatever CDPR decides to roll with, as long as it's (and I'm not worried!) well written, should be coherent with the books. One very likely possibility, though, is that like many victims of such events she simply goes neither way and stays away from sex altogether. She has enough bad memories from both genders to give her nightmares for the rest of her life as it is, so you can't blame her.

Besides, honestly, I really don't expect Ciri's sexuality to come up at all in TW3. Let's not forget that her current occupation is running away from a horde of blood-thirsty elven wraiths intent on raping her. That's not a conducive environment to developing romantic relationships u_u
 
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Luxorek

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#189
Jun 19, 2014
Belzebutinov said:
Besides, honestly, I really don't expect Ciri's sexuality to come up at all in TW3. Let's not forget that her current occupation is running away from a horde of blood-thirsty elven wraiths intent on raping her. That's not a conducive environment to developing romantic relationships u_u
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This. So much this.
 
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Senteria

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#190
Jun 20, 2014
new&improved_vivaxardas said:
Well, to be honest, Ciri did not have a choice in this matter when it started. It was pretty much who rapes her first - a boy or a girl. A girl won the contest. As you remember, she did not feel too great when she washed in the river in the morning.

The rest - for me it looked like a hostage syndrome, or something that abused victims experience - they get these feelings as protective mechanism. Rats sure were screwed up in many ways, ad I did not feel sorry FOR THEM when they were killed. Only for Ciri that she had to witness that. Her entire stint with Rats was pretty bad, and she would have been much better off without it.
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Yeah I guess you may be right. I also found it a bit strange how she could love that woman but oh well.
 
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scratcherpen

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#191
Jun 20, 2014
My thought about homosexualism in the Witcher explains in one of Dethmolt death cutscenes in Witcher 2 . For me lesbomancy is the limit that game should`nt cross. I still feel gross from that candy episode in the first Witcher .
 
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StaGiors

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#192
Jun 20, 2014
scratcherpen said:
My thought about homosexualism in the Witcher explains in one of Dethmolt death cutscenes in Witcher 2 . For me lesbomancy is the limit that game should`nt cross. I still feel gross from that candy episode in the first Witcher .
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Oh they are coming for you my friend. Good luck.

Also, what candy episode?

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scratcherpen

Rookie
#193
Jun 20, 2014
In one of the additional quest mods added with patches, there are some ugly oldman who offer you to taste a candy. This affort turns to be a drug after that you awakes with ugly old geezer sexcard and terrible butthurt.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

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#194
Jun 20, 2014
scratcherpen said:
In one of the additional quest modsadded with patches, there are some ugly oldman who offer you to taste a candy. This affort turns to be a drug after that you awakes with ugly old geezer sextcard and terrible butthurt.
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Uhm, what? I don't remember this. You sure it was in one of the official adventures?
 
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StaGiors

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#195
Jun 20, 2014
Either way..I think we should drop it.
 
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GuyNwah

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#196
Jun 20, 2014
It's in the Geralt's wedding mod. Corylea explained it:
The ugly old fellow is a doppler. It ain't being dropped. Hallucinating that you made out with a doppler at your wedding is a life lesson in not drinking so much.
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#197
Jun 20, 2014
scratcherpen said:
My thought about homosexualism in the Witcher explains in one of Dethmolt death cutscenes in Witcher 2.
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I understand the dislike towards homosexual behavior, (from heterosexual male perspective it's gross as hell) but this kind of hate I never will.
 
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Demut

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#198
Jun 20, 2014
StaGiors said:
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For fuck’s sake ...
 
Alan989

Alan989

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#199
Jun 20, 2014
Is it just me, or is this thread getting even weirder? As if it couldn't be weird enough as it is! :ermm:
 
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wichat

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#200
Jun 20, 2014
Call me when it get 50 pages. Not before, please.
 
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