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Horrible lag... Please help

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srsuth

Rookie
#1
Feb 11, 2012
Horrible lag... Please help

I bought a new computer 3 days ago I got the best one I could afford. I just bought W2 today and installed it. Once all the patches loaded I tried to start the Tutorial. Well needless to say the lag is so bad it can't be played. My system info is:

Win 7 Home Premium
Intel Core i3 2120
3.30 GHz
6 GB Ram
64 Bit OS

From what I can find my graphics card is Intel Graphics 2000 Min memory 128 MB max 1760 MB

Can anyone help me with this.

Thanks

srsuth
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#2
Feb 11, 2012
Yeah, the Intel HD 2000 is a miserable GPU, not up to this game at all.

The rest of the computer is fine, but you need a substantial GPU to play this game.

What make and model of computer is that? We could give you some advice on how to upgrade without breaking your bank account.
 
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dlevere

Senior user
#3
Feb 11, 2012
Go to System Requirements Lab and find out if your computer can play this game.
 
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srsuth

Rookie
#4
Feb 11, 2012
It is a Lenovo and thanks
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#5
Feb 11, 2012
dlevere said:
Go to System Requirements Lab and find out if your computer can play this game.
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No, don't. That site tells lies. If I had a sawbuck for every gamer who's come here after being misled by that site, I'd be rich.

That computer cannot play this game. The GPU has only a fraction of the required computing power. If it can be upgraded, it would have to be.
 
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srsuth

Rookie
#6
Feb 11, 2012
ok what is a good GPU that I can get?
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#7
Feb 11, 2012
srsuth said:
It is a Lenovo and thanks
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Sorry, a Lenovo model what?

I'm not trying to be a smart aleck. Lenovo is ginormous, bigger than Dell. It has hundreds of models of computer. The exact model you have will tell us a lot about whether you can upgrade, and what you should consider upgrading to.
 
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srsuth

Rookie
#8
Feb 11, 2012
Sorry but under Model it just says Lenovo Windows7 PC
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#9
Feb 11, 2012
Does it have a nameplate, or anything like that? There has to be a model number somewhere.

The reason is, Lenovo makes all-in-one, mini case, slim case, and tower models, all with the same CPU but different power supplies, motherboards, different amounts of room inside the case, and all these things affect whether you can upgrade and to what.

For example, all-in-ones (the whole computer is built into the display) can't be upgraded; what you have is what you're stuck with. Slim cases require low-profile graphics cards, if they can take an add-on graphics card at all. Tower cases can handle full-size graphics cards, unless there's something about that exact model that makes it hard to fit.
 
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jjavier

Senior user
#10
Feb 11, 2012
srsuth said:
Sorry but under Model it just says Lenovo Windows7 PC
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"Lenovo Windows7 PC" say as much "Ford pick-up truck". Is not enough data for give you advice.

Have you checked out this page at Lenovo site ?

It explain you where to find the model number.
 
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faravid

Rookie
#11
Feb 12, 2012
Sigh, when do computer makers join in a standard association to create standards for how to display computer performance, there are millions of users who buy a computer, probably even one that costs little bit more to get a computer with enough power to run for example games, but end up getting a computer that may have processing power, memory and so on but graphics card is way too low spec.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#12
Feb 12, 2012
Faravid said:
Sigh, when do computer makers join in a standard association to create standards for how to display computer performance, there are millions of users who buy a computer, probably even one that costs little bit more to get a computer with enough power to run for example games, but end up getting a computer that may have processing power, memory and so on but graphics card is way too low spec.
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I don't think you can blame the computer makers, although you may have reason to blame their salesmen.

Most of the time, it's the graphics card information that determines whether or not a game can be played, and there are plenty of sites that will allow you to look up your graphics card and see if it's good enough for a particular game, or how it compares to the game's stated minimum/required cards. Passmark is probably a good example of such a site.

It's just these pseudo-automated sites such as System Requirements Lab that do a lousy job of it.
 
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faravid

Rookie
#13
Feb 12, 2012
dragonbird said:
I don't think you can blame the computer makers, although you may have reason to blame their salesmen.

Most of the time, it's the graphics card information that determines whether or not a game can be played, and there are plenty of sites that will allow you to look up your graphics card and see if it's good enough for a particular game, or how it compares to the game's stated minimum/required cards. Passmark is probably a good example of such a site.

It's just these pseudo-automated sites such as System Requirements Lab that do a lousy job of it.
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Yeah, it has been popular these days around here that none of the advertisement prints have GPU information with the computers stores sell. Also it's a little bit weird no one implements a system for identifying speed of computer, such as 5-star system stating CPU, memory, GPU and HDD space for example. But well, it's just so much more profitable not to let out much information to fool customers.

Yes have to say Passmark is quite good site, I have recently done a little bit research using it and got my computer upgraded for quite a low amount of cash because of it.
 
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srsuth

Rookie
#14
Feb 12, 2012
Ok thanks guys for the input. I went out and bought a MSI N560GTX-Ti TWIN FROZR II. I finally got it installed with a new power supply. I noticed after I got it installed it is a factory Over Clocked edition. I am able to adjust the settings. now when I run TW2 there is no lag it looks great, but it will quite often drop to a black screen. I also had the entire game lock up at the begining of the tutorial when you have your first conversation with another person. Any idea what settings to use? If I turn it all the way down I lag again. The settings I can control and their factory settings are:

Core Clock: 880 MHz
Shader Clock: 1760 MHz
Memory Clock: 2100 MHz

Sorry to be so stupid about all this. Oh and I found my model Lenovo H420.
 
tommy5761

tommy5761

Mentor
#15
Feb 12, 2012
Overclocked cards can cause crashing from time to time . The stock settings for a standard GTX 560 Ti are as follows
Core clock - 822
Shader clock - 1645
Memory clock - 2004
Try these settings on your card to see if it helps .
You may also need to adjust some game settings using the Witcher 2 configurator . Click launcher then options . Try these game settings
Texture Downscaling - none
Texture Memory Size -large
shadow Quality - Ultra
Nu. of Shadowed lights - ultra
LOD Distance - far
Bloom - enabled
Light Shafts - enabled
Anti-Aliasing - disabled
Blur Effects - disabled
Depth of Field -gameplay- enabled
Vignette - enabled
Wet Surfaces Rain Effect - enabled
SSAO - disabled
Motion Blur - disabled
Cinematic Depth of Field - enabled
Depth of Field- Cutscenes - disabled
Dangling Objects Limit - disabled
Ubersampling - disabled
VSync- disabled
Decals - medium spec .
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#16
Feb 12, 2012
The H420's a standard microATX chassis, so the upgraded GPU and PSU fit fine. But any time you put that hot a card in a microATX box with an unspecified power supply, I get nervous.

Black screen can mean a lot of things, from overheating to bad drivers to dirty power.

A new MSI-made card with their best cooler should have overheating problems only if there is an air flow problem. But air flow problems are definitely possible in a microATX case. That card puts out a good 200 watts of heat while the game is running, and all that heat has to exit the case as hot air. But the Twin Frozr II exhausts into the case, and your case fan has to blow it out. The confined space and small fans in a microATX case may not be up to it.

Get MSI Afterburner and set it up to do on-screen display of the GPU temperature. If you see the GPU temperature run up just before it black screens, you will have found your problem. If the GPU temperature stays at a reasonable level (anything up to approx. 95C is reasonable), you will have eliminated heat as your problem.

Unless you got an excellent replacement power supply, dirty power is also a possibility. The 200 watts that card pulls will all come from the 12V rails, so the regulation on these rails becomes critical. What make and model of power supply did you get for a replacement?

Also, with a factory overclocked nVidia card, you may want to roll back to driver version 275. Later versions run the card overvoltage (to prevent errors in DirectX 11, which this game doesn't use anyway) and have been troublesome with some cards. You can get back versions of the drivers from nVidia; follow the "beta and archived drivers" link on their driver download page.
 
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