I kinda like the way they have done this, kinda wish they hade gone further tbh. But thats where mods come in 
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I kinda like that tbh, it's fucking consistent with the motherfucking dystopia that is the setting, IMHO.
Yes I also got this feeling, like V telling that working aw a bartender in a simple gay club is somewhat "quirky" and strange in a world where there are places like Clouds and surprised that there are male moxcies
Had to sure. Sorry, but while I thought recalled username, OP came out like someone not very good with GTP.
So to make this very simple, you are basically suggesting that you think you experience with game would be better if CDPR self-censored some content, certain adverts like Mifguard, Bottoms Up, Bawdy Dog, without censoring other story elements and M-rated graphical content relevant (naked bodies, torture, snuff) to these story lines.
I don't usually nit pick about things like using correct terms, but censorship is something governments can do. In Night City government has no such power. Adverts we see, are logical conclusion. Obviously though, you meant CDPR and their choices in design of Night City.
There's a mod if you play on PC called Modest Ads 2077. If you are on console, too bad, but this is one of those things that belongs to mod scene. The basic problem is people wanting say M-rated content, but not all of it. Then all the possible things people can find offensive, that list is endless. For you it's like Miflguard ad, for someone else it's NiCola ad that's also offensive, then for someone may be really offended that there's sex shop in game. It never ends.
Care to cite any of those medias? I'm genuinely curious, as I have also read and watched most things out there. Blade Runner is interesting choice as I don't recall anything signaling any kind of hyper sexuality in that movie. Main philosophical questions present in movie have also split followers for decades after alternate cut, has nothing to do with this topic either. There is visual style they chose to city back in the day and I think that's all there is.
I do understand what you mean, sort of, but this is not Blade Runner nor Sprawl, this is Night City.
It adds spice to the atmosphere. If I were the developers, there would have been a lot more of it. I've always had a vivid imagination. MIke Pondsmith did a good job creating this lore. So many interactions and side missions, make me think about real life. In the year of 2077, it appears as if many of Night City's citizens are victims of a colossal CORPO influence. Having experienced four corporate wars, people go about their day to day different. Similar to Las Vegas, there will people who come out at night to find a relief. That's where our mature themes come into play. In the year of 2077, I doubt your average citizen has to look far to find a late night date. Hard to imagine that dating services are still in existence, when you have places like Clouds and street prostitution, and AI-Robots that can look, feel, and sound like a real person.
The second game will probably have more interactive romance. CDPR broke the ice with a few elements, but restrained themselves from going all out. As I mentioned before, this probably had a lot to do with the game being sold in retail stores. Now that people have gotten use to the title, they can take a deeper dive. There is so much more that could have been done, as far as using romance to further benefit V's goals. Seducing the NUSA president and stealing information would have been cool.
The second game will probably have more interactive romance. CDPR broke the ice with a few elements, but restrained themselves from going all out. As I mentioned before, this probably had a lot to do with the game being sold in retail stores. Now that people have gotten use to the title, they can take a deeper dive. There is so much more that could have been done, as far as using romance to further benefit V's goals. Seducing the NUSA president and stealing information would have been cool.
That's what I thought
. English is much less sophisticated ((just "f**k", "s**t" and all the variances) when it comes to swearing compared to Slavic languages . And it looks like CDPR have exhausted all the possibilities...It turns out that all the languages are available. I'll have a go at the English version, also to hear Keanu a bit (although the Polish counterpart plays his role remarkably and is a well-known actor here as well).
On the whole it felt fairly uneven to me, almost as if they wanted to have an adults-only world, then walked it back (I know Sony is weird on censorship - Trish's bum in DMCV on PS4 for example - this was later patched out iirc) As far as how it depits sexuality, nudity etc. as commodified by the corps I thought it did a great job of making some hyper-sexualised aspects mundane and unerotic. I thought it handled sex workers and the seedier aspects of the world (XBDs, Dolls) rather well (Clouds' dolls reminded me of William Gibson's meat puppets)...
Depictions of sexual expression available to the player are sorely missing though, I understand the reasons. (Of all the sexual depictions in game I'm not allowed to run through Corpo Plaza in the nip?!) There are a couple of NPCs that display this well, but they are rather rare. (Thinking of the punk girl in the outfit with the partially exposed breasts.)
Depictions of sexual expression available to the player are sorely missing though, I understand the reasons. (Of all the sexual depictions in game I'm not allowed to run through Corpo Plaza in the nip?!) There are a couple of NPCs that display this well, but they are rather rare. (Thinking of the punk girl in the outfit with the partially exposed breasts.)
It has nothing to do with "certain parties" and everything to do with the likelihood of getting bumped up to an AO rating which would kneecap their ability to sell and market the game.
That's it. It feels like they wanted a mature game but then realized it would affect sales so they waked it back. Then they realized the world needed to feel mature so someone said "let's just add a genitals slider and throw some ass cheeks on billboards". It just all feels very clumsily put together.
The story moments on the other hand, like the sex work and exploitation is very well done but the stuff around it isn't. It feels very try hard, like a 14 yr olds version of what sex in the future would look like....just dildo's everywhere.
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Very true, when it comes to the side quests it's well executed. It's the other surface level stuff that feels uneven.
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You seem to misunderstand the post entirely. The issue isn't having M-rated content, its poorly executing said content. The billboards feel like a 14 yr old wet dream, genital slider to make your junk as big as you want to no end, dildo's and ass cheeks everywhere. It's the creative choices that I'm saying are very poor.
As for Bladerunner, the Hollowgraphic girls exist to satisfy customers desires, there are prostitutes, replicant prostitutes. It's there, it's just not overdone to the point of exhaustion because it's not necessary. It just feels like the game is trying too hard to be edgy, only to fail at delivering that mature aspect it's trying so hard to convey.
It achieves this in the story elements with Judy and Evelyn but the other stuff falls flat.
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Same. I'd understand if it was just choosing pubic hair options for female characters in the name of Cyberpunk oversexualisation, but I don't really see it as having much of a point.
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Agreed, the Anglo-Saxon countries only have fuck and fucking, as far as swearwords go they have the creativity of a Star Wars Sequels writer.That's what I thought
It turns out that all the languages are available. I'll have a go at the English version, also to hear Keanu a bit (although the Polish counterpart plays his role remarkably and is a well-known actor here as well).
Agreed. This game was more tame than The Witcher. It should have been way more daring.
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They were on a good approach to non sexual nudity in the Sandra Dorsett quest right at the start but dropped it later.
I'll never understand why dismemberment is fine but sex needs to be toned down. Right down to nothing at all in PL. A "spy thriller". Ever seen a James Bond movie?
Why do your love interests all end up as "finished"? Why does Judy talk to you saucy but you can't hug her, kiss her or take her to bed again?
Why are there countless hookers in the game but you can hook up with only two of them?
I'll never understand why dismemberment is fine but sex needs to be toned down. Right down to nothing at all in PL. A "spy thriller". Ever seen a James Bond movie?
Why do your love interests all end up as "finished"? Why does Judy talk to you saucy but you can't hug her, kiss her or take her to bed again?
Why are there countless hookers in the game but you can hook up with only two of them?
Meanwhile in TW3 base game you had a choice of SIX, and in TW2 even a larger number. Why are the Middle Ages more sexually liberated than a Cyberpunk society???
I find "misunderstanding" rather strange interpretation.
So far you have managed to put term "censorship" in topic title, without understanding what it means. Rating system isn't about censorship per se, but agreements with parties that might be public or private, never mind it's not about ratings either. Then I wrote in my post about practical impossibilities meeting every possible expectation out there, oh wait, looks like going in circles.
How exactly you are going to portray culture where advertising isn't regulated without showing believable outcome of that? How are you going to portray consequences of obsession with everything fake, braindance ad "Bottoms up" is very good example. Does mustache guy in thalook like someone who has many sexual options, but commercial fantasies? Does he look like to you like someone who people wanted to be, seriously?
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Blade Runner doesn't support your argument about hypersexuality. It simply portrays high tech, low life aspect of genre. Replicants getting in the profession makes sense, they are illegal aliens, with very few options professionally. This is simply repeating history. Prostitution is called the oldest profession in the world for a reason.
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Addendum as I forgot about the penis size options.
Why something that is entirely optional feature, is perceived a problem? My V's are male, but I have understood that there's breast size slider for fem V. Why isn't that "problematic" then?
That something isn't interesting feature for everyone doesn't mean that such feature couldn't be important to anybody. I saw post from @GrimReaper801 about making game and character creation more accessible with trans-people. I can't keep up with acronyms and who ever perceives things whatever way, but from medical point of view, there's Sawyer's syndrome when child can born with female genitals despite being genetically male. I could think such person could find penis slider feature interesting in defining their character, as they haven't had option to have a real one, so it's something new and in game their character can have one though if they imagine their V like that.
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It's literally the same idea behind being able to choose your skin colour, eye shape, nose, mouth, complexion, etc. Genitals were added to that list - they're just another part of the body. Some people are a bit stuck in their heads and just can't seem to get over it though.
The general idea is that you get to create a custom character. And if you're going to make a character creator then obviously it's great to offer as much representation to players as you can. It makes it more inclusive. Personally, I love that this CC allows you to create a trans character as well as cis. I'm sure a lot of trans people appreciate it too.
What I would improve though is making gender its own attribute independent of voice (while some trans individuals might change that aspect of themselves, not everyone does - transitioning is varied and different for everyone). Plus gender neutral/fluid options if that's doable.
Only other thing I'd add are more body options so it's not just the slim/athletic builds.
That was even stranger considering the witcher 3 had those things. It's likely a compromise for sales as many others have said. They wanted to exceed Witcher 3 sales and I guess the best way to do that is to ensure CP2077 wasn't banned anywhere for having extensive sexual content.
I think the sequel will highlight what is true and what isn't. if they continue to limit sexual content then most likely it is about money. If they change it and have content available at clouds based on feedback from the community then we'll know it was a creative choice. I'm not too optimistic, I think all evidence is pointing to money and a change in direction for the company since going public so I don't think we'll ever see things like that again in their games.
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Sorry but that's just a poor excuse for poor game design. When you and I go out in public we see "skin color, eyes, shape, nose" for every individual....we do not see their genitals. You do not need a genital slider for representation. Representing ppl with big/small genitals or breasts? really mate? That's your argument?
As you said in your very comment, if representation was the aim then a body slider would have been the more sensible choice. This has nothing to do with "ppl being in their heads" and virtue signaling in an attempt to make it about that is disappointing and sad.
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