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How mature will be The Witcher 3 ?

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ztki

Senior user
#21
Mar 3, 2014
well,they could still implement something like "brutal mode" into the game, or just put it into options to turn on/off.
 
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Cipher-Six

Senior user
#22
Mar 3, 2014
Yeah, I'm not opposed to gore, but I agree that gore and nudity are certainly not the definition of maturity. How they are used and presented is crucial in defining that. I care more about the maturity of story and characters, which I think, based on TW2, CDPR are already doing a great job with.
 
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Geralt_and_Ciri

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#23
Mar 3, 2014
nucta said:
It's because you don't see such things in your everyday reality.
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Well, i work on a hospital, so i am very closed to things like suffer and dead, nobody will like kill just because this is "fun", just saying that it exist, and denied those things on a war, and more by Nilfgard, will break the immersion.

Just don't wanna take killing like this game

where kill is just like walk,this is stupid, and fill with that game.... i wish games more like "The Last of Us", where life and death is taken seriously, maybe The Last of Us was very intense, but this showing how the fight for survival is not so simple like kill to everyone with your machinegun.
 
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Mgec

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#24
Mar 3, 2014
What would we do without Marcin Momot!
 
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GuyNwah

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#25
Mar 3, 2014
Greaves93 said:
I'd like to realise what i've actually done to that soldier... I'd like to feel dread with every person i kill, even if he/she needed killing.
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This is the best reason for including significant gore in the game. It may be the only reason, but it is one that is important to me. I think TW2 handled it well in a few cases, like the deaths of Foltest and Letho, where the aftermath left you with a feeling of loss and wasted life.

There's a practical aspect, though; the game has to get past the censors. Some countries come down hard on realistic gore.
 
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Pedrolago

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#26
Mar 3, 2014
nucta said:
It's because you don't see such things in your everyday reality.
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I absolutely respect your point, and since you are from the Ukraine I wish you and yours the the best of luck through the tense situation your country is experiencing right now.
But I think in a game set in the middle ages during a war anything less than brutal gore would seem fake.CDPR's goal is to transport us into the universe that sapkowski created and if they take away the gore it just seems cheap, in the books there's raping, mutilating and people begging for mercy because that's exactly what happened in real life, so in order to tell a realistic story gore has to be there, we have to see innocents being murdered in order to get that sad feeling that war is a terrible thing and also to give us the drive to avenge those innocents, to feel that you are not just hacking at a target but an actual person, that's what makes a great story, believability.
Plus since you've seen gore before you know that no matter how realistic movie and game gore is it doesn't come close to the real thing, fake gore stimulates the human necessity for violence like when dogs play at fighting and real gore gets you in the guts because it subconsciously makes you feel in danger, so fake gore is just harmlessly satisfying human nature.
cheers
 
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Goran.hr

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#27
Mar 3, 2014
Mature game is for mature players. Therefore, I hope that the Witcher 3 will be challenging, with many tough decisions and as little hand-holding as possible.

Treating gamers as mature. For me, this is a most important aspect of a mature game.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#28
Mar 3, 2014
I think TW2 had a right amount of gore, and in right places. Enough to realize the horror, but not graphic enough (it wasn't really shown) for sensitive people to be disturbed and require professional help. Massacres in Loc Muinne and Flotsam, an execution of Blue Stripes, Foltest's death, Dethmold's death, Demovend's assassination - they were proper and story-related. I want the same approach in TW3 as well.
I do not want excessive blood and gore during gameplay, when Geralt kills regular bandits, for example. It is still a game, and not a killing simulator.
 
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Pedrolago

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#29
Mar 3, 2014
I still vote for realistic wounds and enemies begging for mercy
 
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Gr3aves

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#30
Mar 4, 2014
ztkigzvkg said:
well,they could still implement something like "brutal mode" into the game, or just put it into options to turn on/off.
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This is the solution for 99% of the disussions on this forum ^^. If people don't want immersive gore, turn it off.
 
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Nucta.397

Rookie
#31
Mar 4, 2014
pedrolago said:
But I think in a game set in the middle ages during a war anything less than brutal gore would seem fake.CDPR's goal is to transport us into the universe that sapkowski created and if they take away the gore it just seems cheap, in the books there's raping, mutilating and people begging for mercy because that's exactly what happened in real life, so in order to tell a realistic story gore has to be there, we have to see innocents being murdered in order to get that sad feeling that war is a terrible thing and also to give us the drive to avenge those innocents, to feel that you are not just hacking at a target but an actual person, that's what makes a great story, believability.
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English is not my first language, it's not even the second, but I think I've made myself clear.
I'm not against gore, I'm against TOO MUCH gore, against maniacal enjoyment from spilled blood.
And it's not about my country and what's happening here.
 

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Ðarkstar

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#32
Mar 4, 2014
nucta said:
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English is not my first language, it's not even the second, but I think I've made myself clear.
I'm not against gore, I'm against TOO MUCH gore, against maniacal enjoyment from spilled blood.
And it's not about my country and what's happening here.
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So would you be against Nilfgaardian soldiers or the Wild Hunt setting fire to and slaughtering a village? Geralt doesn't enjoy bloodshed, but if its part of the story and is pivotal for immersion then there's no room for you on this boat ride.
 
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Nucta.397

Rookie
#33
Mar 4, 2014
Ðarkstar said:
So would you be against Nilfgaardian soldiers or the Wild Hunt setting fire to and slaughtering a village? Geralt doesn't enjoy bloodshed, but if its part of the story and is pivotal for immersion then there's no room for you on this boat ride.
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#34
Mar 4, 2014
Ðarkstar said:
then there's no room for you on this boat ride.
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Please keep this kind of comment out of the discussion.
 
Elegast7

Elegast7

Senior user
#35
Mar 4, 2014
I'm against gore for the sake of it, I'm against sex for the sake of it. BUT, I'm for realism. If it fits the quest/situation then cdpr should do what is realistic.
 
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Geralt_of_bsas

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#36
Mar 4, 2014
Some of the things i would want more than proper gore and blood for TW3 are the sounds and dialogue of people suffering.

In games and movies people getting hurt or killed barely react like one would in real life, you hear these short bored screams acting as just player feedback, no heavy breathing trying to cope with the fear and panic, no excruciating unbearable pain, you can totally tell the characters are just game tools.

TW3 needs to step up in this subject in my opinion.
 
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Pedrolago

Rookie
#37
Mar 4, 2014
Geralt_of_bsas, wise words
 
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Senteria

Forum veteran
#38
Mar 4, 2014
I'm with rohirrim on this matter.
 
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Pedrolago

Rookie
#39
Mar 5, 2014
Aside from gore and sexuality, maturity in the story is very important as well, I hope they give us some tragic plots like Essi Daven's story(Sword of destiny) or Angouleme(Lady of The Lake), plots that capture sapkowski's sad irony, and also plots that capture his sarcastic humor, I would also like to see some talking monsters, monsters that make you feel bad for killing them but have to be killed because they are too much of a threat, like in the books.:huh:
 
Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

Forum veteran
#40
Mar 6, 2014
@thothistox; nailed it page 1. Anyway... Gore (i.e. cartoon violence)? I've been more affected by scary films and such that imply the horror without showing grisly details. Sometimes opting for gore is the easy way, the darkside, when the emotions should really be conveyed through other senses. For me though theres another issue in "mature" games - no hand holding, and that includes the narrative, I guess I'm just hoping one TW3 playthrough doesn't tell the whole story, ala TW2.
 
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