How muc fps at ultra with this setup?

[original182]

Hey all, I've updated my specs, which is cheaper than the original one.
The things that changed are CPU, Mobo, RAM, Graphics Card.

CPU Intel Core i5 2500 Processor
Mobo ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard
RAM Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 8GB Kit CL8
Graphics Card Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5
HDD Samsung F3 7200 RPM 1TB
PSU Corsair HX850
Case NZXT Guardian Gaming Case

What do you all think?

 

[GuyNwah]

The Core i5 is a better choice for CPU. Any reputable Z68 or P67-based motherboard is fine. The important thing with RAM is to have enough of it: 6 to 8 GB is ideal at present. The F3 is the good model of Samsung disks. You could cut back to a 620-watt or 650-watt PSU from Corsair (TX or HX) or Seasonic (S12II or M12II) or Antec (Neo or HCG) without hurting anything. (Tip: All of the PSU models I mentioned are the same Seasonic guts. (Some are modular.) Shop around.)

 

[username_3236168]

I'm with Guy N'wah on this, unless your going to CrossfireX another 6970 that Corsair HX850 is a huge overkill.

 

[original182]

Well I read somewhere that you shouldn't skimp on PSU. I was thinking of getting this nice PSU because PSUs are one of the few things that don't need upgrading regardless of whether we get new technology (DDR4 RAM) or not.

How about this 850W for future graphics card upgrades? Or is it still overkill?

 

[username_3236168]

Well I read somewhere that you shouldn't skimp on PSU. I was thinking of getting this nice PSU because PSUs are one of the few things that don't need upgrading regardless of whether we get new technology (DDR4 RAM) or not.

How about this 850W for future graphics card upgrades? Or is it still overkill?

When they say skimp, it means you could buy a 1000W PSU but still say only half the price of Corsair HX850.

In uk you can buy a 500W PSU for £10 or a 500W PSU for £113.40 and you can bet any penny that the £10 PSU won't even put out 400W.

If you get Corsair or Seasonic PSU you will know for sure that they will put out as much as it says on the box and even more.

For example: i got the Corsair HX850 and it can actually output 1084W which is 234W more than it should.

So just get a good Corsair or Seasonic PSU(650W) and only if your really going to crossfire then get 850W

 

[GuyNwah]

Yes, there's a practical limit to the amount of power that a single graphics card is able to draw, somewhere short of 300W. The rest of the system won't be able to use more than about 300W, either. And that's only if you're doing some egregious waste of electricity like overclocking your rig and using it full-time for bitcoin mining. So there is no practical reason to run a power supply upward of 650 or at the most 750 watts on a single-card setup.

The price of good power supplies goes up fast once you get over 650-750 watts. Save your money and spend it on something nicer.

 

[username_3236168]

i would invest the money is better case with decent air intake and out-take

 

[GuyNwah]

i would invest the money is better case with decent air intake and out-take

That case does have nice air handling, but it is just a bit cramped for a 69xx card.

Cooler Master HAF series cases have loads of room and excellent ventilation. I have never gone wrong with using or recommending one of these.

 

[username_3236168]

That case does have nice air handling, but it is just a bit cramped for a 69xx card.

Cooler Master HAF series cases have loads of room and excellent ventilation. I have never gone wrong with using or recommending one of these.

depending on the model it has:
- 120mm intake and 80mm out-take
- 120mm intake and 120mm out-take
And i wouldn't call it a good airflow for an i5 and 6970

best options are like you said Cooler Master HAF or LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62, both amazing cases for a reasonable price

 

[original182]

Folks the NZXT Guardian 921's dimensions are 206 x 459 x 522mm.

If it is already too cramped for a HD6970, does that mean I should pick one that is deeper?

HAF912: 230 x 480 x 496mm
HAF922: 253 x 502 x 563mm
HAF X: 230 x 599 x 550mm
HAF 932: 243 x 560 x 564

Again, I don't plan to overclock, so heat in theory shouldn't be a problem.
Which one do you recommend that I get? Will the HAF922 be enough?

 

[GuyNwah]

Folks the NZXT Guardian 921's dimensions are 206 x 459 x 522mm.

If it is already too cramped for a HD6970, does that mean I should pick one that is deeper?

HAF912: 230 x 480 x 496mm
HAF922: 253 x 502 x 563mm
HAF X: 230 x 599 x 550mm
HAF 932: 243 x 560 x 564

Again, I don't plan to overclock, so heat in theory shouldn't be a problem.
Which one do you recommend that I get? Will the HAF922 be enough?

It's the width (206mm) that causes more trouble than anything else. That's pretty narrow. Others have complained that a full-height graphics card comes too close to the side fan, and they've had to remove the side fan.

Heat is always a concern with a high-powered graphics card, even without overclocking. The 6970, running with a 3D load, will burn over 200 watts. The full system will draw 350 to 400 under load. That heat has to go somewhere. It takes a lot of air movement to get rid of it.

Of the CoolerMaster HAF cases, the "HAF 932 Advanced" is the best model, but the others are still good. All are very spacious and have plenty of locations to mount fans.

 

[original182]

Ah unfortunately folks, I can't get Cooler Master from my local shop.

They only sell Corsair, Antec, Zalman, Silverstone, Gigabyte and Aywun cases. Does anyone have recommendations for these brands? Are they good?

 

[GuyNwah]

Antec is a longtime case maker. I've used Antec cases for two decades. Their high-end cases are very good, and all of them are very solid and heavy. Look for the model 900 (reasonable size, lots of fans) or 1200 (a monster case).

Corsair, Zalman, Silverstone, and Gigabyte all make good cases, but the good ones are not cheap, and the cheap ones are not good.

Aywun cases aren't marketed in the US, and I don't know them, but they look cheap (as in not good).

 

[original182]

Guy I don't understand. The NZXT 921's width is too small. The dimensions are 206 x 459 x 522mm.

For the Antec cases:
900: 206 x 493 x 467mm
1200: 213 x 582 x 513mm

The 900 has the same width as the NZXT 921's. Won't the 900 be too small as well?

 

[username_3236168]

Guy I don't understand. The NZXT 921's width is too small. The dimensions are 206 x 459 x 522mm.

For the Antec cases:
900: 206 x 493 x 467mm
1200: 213 x 582 x 513mm

The 900 has the same width as the NZXT 921's. Won't the 900 be too small as well?

if i remember right the Guy N'wah told you about the side fan on few of the cases that can restrict the space for a high end card.

 

[original182]

if i remember right the Guy N'wah told you about the side fan on few of the cases that can restrict the space for a high end card.

So what you're saying is 206mm is actually wide enough, but it is due to poor design that some cards cannot fit in?

 

[GuyNwah]

So what you're saying is 206mm is actually wide enough, but it is due to poor design that some cards cannot fit in?

Yeah, that's pretty much right. The NZXT case has a side fan in an area that should be used for clearance above the graphics card. Lots of DIY'ers have complained about it. The 900 has a better complement of fans, and they're better placed; they do an exceptional job of drawing hot air away from the graphics card.

What you have to watch on the 900 is disk drive placement. Antec has always done fore-and-aft disk drive mounts, which means a long graphics card will take up space that belongs to one of the disk drive positions. This case also has a fan mount on the disk drive rack, which has to be removed to accommodate a large graphics card. You'd only need a fan there if you were running a RAID array of several disks anyway.

If you are still concerned about space, go for the 1200. But the number of people who have trouble with the 900 is small indeed.

 

[original182]

Folks, probably my final planned spec:

Graphics Card: Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE VGA Card
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500 Processor
Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 8GB Kit CL8
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Hard Disk
DVD: LiteOn 24x DVD Writer
Case: Antec 900 II v3
PSU: Corsair HX750
Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Series
Speakers: Creative SBS A300 2.1

What do you all think?

 

[username_3236168]

Folks, probably my final planned spec:

Graphics Card: Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE VGA Card
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500 Processor
Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 8GB Kit CL8
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Hard Disk
DVD: LiteOn 24x DVD Writer
Case: Antec 900 II v3
PSU: Corsair HX750
Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Series
Speakers: Creative SBS A300 2.1

What do you all think?

is that 2500 or 2500K?

 

[original182]

is that 2500 or 2500K?

2500. I don't want to overclock because I have no experience in it.