It's a definite deal-breaker, and it wouldn't happen. They've built their brand, both as a developer and through the GOG distribution, on being DRM-free. One of the reasons Namco Bandai took them to court was because CDPR refused to allow DRM to remain on the retail version of TW2 (and CDPR won on that issue), and they've become the industry's Poster Boy for *not* having DRM. They're not going to throw that away.
If you want to see some of their background, try these:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/05/18/the-truth-is-it-doesnt-work-cd-projekt-on-drm/
http://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/09/cd-projekt-red-no-more-drm-future-titles#.UTqBOhzd7PI
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/30/4chan-defends-witcher-2-developer-cd-projekt-red-from-pirates/
Pris2013 is just trying to mess with us.
Personally, I'm OK with a one-time registration, and if someone wants to buy through Steam, then it's going to get the base Steam DRM on that version only. But that's it.
And Wisdom's big world on servers sounds awfully like an extension of what EA did, so that's pretty much a no-no too. Not even as an option, as it sounds like the type of thing that could cripple the single-user game.
To answer that question : absolutly no way.
My Internet connection is not reliable and I want to play anytime I wish. After all, I paid for that.
I also upgrade my computer every year or so. So fuck limitations on system instal.
You're wrong.
Piracy is an excuse to enact more and more control over distribution of games and game contents with always on internet connections or invasive DRMs. It is also convenient to limit the used-game market. Believing that one game illegaly downloaded is a lost sale is not accurate. How do you know that because it was downloaded, a game is not bought ? And what about sales plateforms like Steam or Origins ? Do I need to have as many spywares as there are platforms ? I don't think so. Each editor wants to control their games, even after they had been sold.
Just make good games and you will meet your public.
Stardock and CDPR make proof of that when they sell DRM-free games (and they sell them well).
Unfortunatly, gaming edition has become much as music edition. The profit must be there even if the game is faulty or awful.
It's proven in many studies that MP3 P2P is a good thing for artists, giving them more public exposition. In France, the best customers are pirates : they buy more much than non-pirates. Go figure.
And all DRMs are broken one day or another. You may even play WoW on private servers emulating the official ones. So, DRMs just piss off the legitimate user. The pirate is very happy with the cracked game that works well.
im not messing with anyone, i hate pirating, and if the system of always online worked meaning the servers didnt crash i would be all for it. it doesnt bother me at all my computers are always online even my console. the people that complain about drm are the pirates themselves usually im pretty sure more people pirated witcher games than bought them and its a shame.
That's a very sweeping statement. Do you also consider that anyone who opposes capital punishment must be a murderer?
(Also, you may want to check the links I posted. The CEO of CDPR opposes DRM)
He must be a pirate! Someone photoshop an image of him to have an eyepatch!
Battlefield 3 crashed on launch day.
Diablo 3 crashed on launch day
The last SimCity crashed on launch day.
Ubisoft "always online" DRM cracked.
You know what, you should rent game, not buy them.
Well, it does bother me. I want to be able to play in a train or in a bus. I want to be able to play when my ISP fails. I'm living in the country side and that happens quite often.
YOU are pretty sure.
And who else? On what data do you make that certainty
Regardless of your views regarding the statement concerned, please avoid personal attacks in any replies.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I can't think of any time a company used always-on DRM on a title that wasn't already established. Assassin's Creed was already pretty well known before AC2 tried always-on, Diablo was on its third iteration, Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands came after a number of highly successful POP games... Silent Hunter 5, The Settlers 7.
You have to wonder why companies only seem willing to throw always-on DRM on top of series that have already-existing fans. They probably know that people have an easier time passing on games/series they're not already invested in. I mean, as nice as the teaser for Cyberpunk was, I'd drop my plans to purchase it in a second if they announced DRM. Which they won't, because they've already made their stance on the topic clear.
You have to wonder why companies only seem willing to throw always-on DRM on top of series that have already-existing fans. They probably know that people have an easier time passing on games/series they're not already invested in. I mean, as nice as the teaser for Cyberpunk was, I'd drop my plans to purchase it in a second if they announced DRM. Which they won't, because they've already made their stance on the topic clear.
There are a lot of made-up piracy numbers that were once thoroughly debunked on the Witcher forums, but that have nonetheless been used as a kind of rallying call for those who (inexplicably) support DRM. That doesn't change the fact that they're imaginary.
And, talking of adding it to an existing franchise, if CDPR add it to TW3, I'd rage-quit the forums, cancel my pre-order, and then go on a crazed Wild Hunt Chase through the skies flame-roasting those flying pigs that Netra mentioned. Which might actually be fun.
But overall, it's a bit like hypothesising on "What would you do if aliens land tomorrow?".
That would be a fun thread.
Personally, I'd drive around blasting a recording of someone saying "Klaatu barada nikto," just in case.
That is definitely not allowed. I have exclusive rights on flamethrowers. You can choose between a laser rifle and tactical nukes, depending on whether you prefer ranged weapons or melee.
Why would pirates, who bypass DRM, complain about it? DRM only affects the people who bought the game and try to play it the "right" way.
I might also add you seem to loathe being treated fairly as a consumer. I cannot understand where this self-hatred comes from, but honestly, you shouldn't trust into corporations and companies so much. Sure, there's a few which treat their consumers well enough, but those tend to be the exceptions, sadly, rather than the rule. But the likes of EA, Ubisoft and most recently Blizzard... they don't have your best interests at heart. You're just a possible wallet to them, that's all.
Oh and one more thing. You mentioned Eastern Europe as one place where piracy is a big problem and since I'm from what is considered Eastern Europe I think I could elaborate on this a bit. The games that are sold here through retail, or through Steam, are priced the same as they are in the more developed countries of the world, despite the standard of living and average paychecks being smaller. Example: in my country, average paycheck is around 300 euros, and I'm being generous with this figure, it's often times lower than that, and when a new game comes out, it's priced usually at 50-60 euros. Do you still wonder why people first pirate games and only buy when on discounts later on rather than give one fifth or one sixth of their pay?
Another way to eliminate piracy would be having demos out for your games and making good games so that people who pirated them buy them afterward.
Based on the rest of Hudson's speech... I choose the sharp sticks...
I may have been next to always online lately, but what happened with the times where if you didn't have a connection you could console yourself with videogames? Is really the piracy the issue behind this? Because it sounds to me like this and having every videogame be part of some half cooked social networking feature is really a cover up for contracts with Internet connection providers. CDPR/GOG business policy all the way. And users you better don't try to abuse their good faith or we'll have another kind of cyberpunk future, one we can't just live comfortably and safely as an RPG.
Highly unlikely. Many of the people who don't have constant, reliable internet lack it because of those companies' unwillingness to pay for basic stuff. Specifically, infrastructure stuff that would allow them to branch out to certain areas. They'd basically be screwing over people who they've shown no interest in having as customers in the first place. Besides, I doubt such a universally incompetent group could be possible of anything so diabolical; even if they magically possessed the prerequisite intelligence, they're all so bad at actually making appointment windows that they'd never be in the same place at the same time.
More likely the industry is giving themselves kill switches for games. New game coming out? Servers for older games are killed off, pushing people toward the new stuff. The online component of Madden games worked a bit like this, so this kind of thing has been a long time coming. Piracy just provided a convenient pretense for pushing something certain game companies wanted to move toward anyway.
Always online is a deal breaker for me. I'll still pick up the game, but only after it's been out for a long time and is available for a large discount. Always online means the game will have a horrible launch week. More importantly, my college internet is horrible. I will always have latency issues and frequent disconnects between 7PM and 2AM.
Ok, I'll avoid the "pretentious" and "EA propagandist" terms next time.
But why have you edited the part concerning the paiment of DRMs by legit customers and the downside of some of them (Yes, it's about you Starforce Securom) ?
It was no personnal attack, just facts.