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I cant take these stupid cryptic trophies anymore 3 playthrough now going to need a 4th? f no

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lkl34

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Jun 22, 2015
I cant take these stupid cryptic trophies anymore 3 playthrough now going to need a 4th? f no

I have gone through 3 play through's just to get 90% of the trophies but because i am not a developer i did not know before act 2 you must go to 1 message board in 1 section at a specific time to unlock 1 quest to get 1 gwent card fucking really? really?.

The devs must put in a place were we can buy these top secret cia only cards. I have every gwent card in the game except the one you get on the mission following the thread i am so pissed right now i could chock a horse with my bare hands.


3 play throughs 2 with a guide to get all the cryptic trophies and glitched ones like the horse races just to need a 4th for collecting fn cards.


Fix this crap before you send people into the mental institution.
 
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devivre

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#2
Jun 22, 2015
I don't get the obsession with trophies.

But still if the gwent quest cannot be completed anymore the game should properly inform you right away. Then if need be you can reload without losing much progress. Right now sadly that doesn't happen.
 
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SoulTrain75

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#3
Jun 22, 2015
i agree with you. im hoping they patch in all available cards to not be missable. Mind if i ask what board your talking about? which town is it in i dont wanna miss it either. but i may already have.
 
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Sethanor

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#4
Jun 22, 2015
i dont get it ... im still on my first playthrough and still in Act1 and i got my fist-fighting achievement, got all gwent cards (incl. achievements) etc ... (did like 5 mins research on "missable gwent cards" after i heard there are some of those and it only concerns 3 different quests, all of which you cant really miss, unless you dont do sub-quests or dont talk to people)

yes it could have been better (speak: no missable cards or a trader to re-sell them) but its not THAT huge of a deal imo ...
even if i hadnt done any research i wouldnt have missed a single card xD

and what other achievements in this game are so "cryptic"? ... they are all very easy to understand and non of them is some stupid shit like "kill 5.000 humans" (for which you normally need 3 playthroughs to even get the count xD)

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SoulTrain75

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#5
Jun 22, 2015
I think the only other trophy that can be missed is the full crew trophy. ^^^
 
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Introspectah

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#6
Jun 22, 2015
lkl34 said:
i am so pissed right now i could chock a horse with my bare hands.
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Brilliant! XD

Provocative imagery.

lkl34 said:
Fix this crap before you send people into the mental institution.
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Haha.
 
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Bank_k

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#7
Jun 22, 2015
lkl34 said:
The devs must put in a place were we can buy these top secret cia only cards. I have every gwent card in the game except the one you get on the mission following the thread i am so pissed right now i could chock a horse with my bare hands.
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I have the same problem as well, missing the Nekker card but I've read somewhere that the Nekker card counts as a duplicate where you only need one of the three to get the achievement? I can't confirm this since I am still missing cards from the Claywich merchants.

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SoulTrain75 said:
i agree with you. im hoping they patch in all available cards to not be missable. Mind if i ask what board your talking about? which town is it in i dont wanna miss it either. but i may already have.
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The notice board in Novigrad, the main square (can't remember the name).
 
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Goodmongo

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#8
Jun 22, 2015
Would it make everyone feel better if there were no achievements? After all this whole achievement thing is relatively recent. Older games never had it.
 
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OnkelCannabia

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#9
Jun 22, 2015
You don't need a 4th playthrough. You just need to wait until they finally fix the Zoltan card bug. It's supposed to be under the Hanged Man's Tree, but it isn't. It's the only card I'm missing as well.
 
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emjaymj

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#10
Jun 22, 2015
Honestly, I like the idea of missable cards even though CDPR seems intent on "fixing" that. Achievements are SUPPOSED to be difficult, and what fun is it if everyone has the exact same cards?

Full disclosure: I just got the achievement today after I saved the Claywich merchant. But if I hadn't been able to, I'd be fine with it as long as it wasn't actual bugs/glitches that weren't somehow preventing me.

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Bank_k said:
I have the same problem as well, missing the Nekker card but I've read somewhere that the Nekker card counts as a duplicate where you only need one of the three to get the achievement? I can't confirm this since I am still missing cards from the Claywich merchants.
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The Claywich merchant doesn't sell any Monster cards, so you won't find a Nekker. You'll find like 4 unique (Nilfgaard, I think), and the 5th card is a Dragon Hunter which is a damn good card if you have all 3 (5 strength with tight bond means 15 strength each, 45 total if you play all three; with a Commander's Horn that's 30 strength each - 90 total for just 3 cards!)
 
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warbaby2

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Jun 22, 2015
devivre said:
I don't get the obsession with trophies.
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That's a console thing, I think... PC gamers never really adopted that "obsession", we like actual content, not imagined "well-done-badges".

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
 
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cloolvl

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#12
Jun 22, 2015
lkl34 said:
Fix this crap before you send people into the mental institution.
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if a silly trophy matters that much to you maybe you should save everyone the trouble and check yourself in
 
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xdevnull

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#13
Jun 22, 2015
I like the challenge of trophies. Rather than berating people for what they think is fun you could offer something helpful.

Missable trophies are fine in a 20 or even 30 hour game; not in a 100 hour game. Maybe even then if it's something straightforward like killing rather than saving a monster/character, but in a game with all these glitches....collecting all these cards. They should really fix this, or at least make the missable ones purchasable elsewhere.
 
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lkl34

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Jun 22, 2015
Sethanor said:
i dont get it ... im still on my first playthrough and still in Act1 and i got my fist-fighting achievement, got all gwent cards (incl. achievements) etc ... (did like 5 mins research on "missable gwent cards" after i heard there are some of those and it only concerns 3 different quests, all of which you cant really miss, unless you dont do sub-quests or dont talk to people)

yes it could have been better (speak: no missable cards or a trader to re-sell them) but its not THAT huge of a deal imo ...
even if i hadnt done any research i wouldnt have missed a single card xD

and what other achievements in this game are so "cryptic"? ... they are all very easy to understand and non of them is some stupid shit like "kill 5.000 humans" (for which you normally need 3 playthroughs to even get the count xD)

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I am sorry but you a very bad troll you cannot get the gwent collection trophy not even the fist fight one with only velen/novigrad/white orchard unlocked. You half to do alot of missions before you can play with your friends and fight against the level 26 rock troll.

Not unless you are on story only HA HA HA HA still would not be available do to your current stance in the game.






To everyone else thank you for the positive feed back i forgot to mention yeah its the 4 point necker card i missed you get from the guys corpse at the end of this mission. You get follow the thread in novigrad square before you start act 2.
 
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rikj1984

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#15
Jun 23, 2015
xdevnull said:
I like the challenge of trophies. Rather than berating people for what they think is fun you could offer something helpful.

Missable trophies are fine in a 20 or even 30 hour game; not in a 100 hour game. Maybe even then if it's something straightforward like killing rather than saving a monster/character, but in a game with all these glitches....collecting all these cards. They should really fix this, or at least make the missable ones purchasable elsewhere.
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We're not talking about anything that is a challenge, or even mildly entertaining. It's a virtual pat on the back for clicking on merchants and making virtual transactions. Who cares. I could see if this "achievement" somehow led to some other content, but getting it does nothing. It means nothing. Missing out on it deprives you of nothing.

If you do happen to get it, it sits in a list on your profile telling you that you got them all, in case you forgot or something I guess.....yippee.
 
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Bank_k

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#16
Jun 23, 2015
rikj1984 said:
We're not talking about anything that is a challenge, or even mildly entertaining. It's a virtual pat on the back for clicking on merchants and making virtual transactions. Who cares. I could see if this "achievement" somehow led to some other content, but getting it does nothing. It means nothing. Missing out on it deprives you of nothing.

If you do happen to get it, it sits in a list on your profile telling you that you got them all, in case you forgot or something I guess.....yippee.
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Some people enjoy collecting achievements, it is rewarding for them and adds something more to do after finishing the game. If you don't enjoy doing it then that's fine no one is forcing you to. There's no need to diss people who likes to collect them and it adds nothing to the discussion.
 
Dowlphin

Dowlphin

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#17
Jun 23, 2015
Considering how time-intensive this game is, it is bad style when things like that can become missable.
There were some measures taken to avoid such things, but only in a patch. (Buyable cards added to merchant in White Orchard because the innkeeper dies.)
Such should be general design policy.

(One of the stupidest achievements in this regards was the troll-slaying-or-not-slaying in W2.)

I totally intend to get all Gwent cards, but hey, the main story quests really have priority. Gwent is a nice thing to do after all that is done. But if, for example, skipping on an optional Gwent quest right in the middle of a main story quest because I really wasn't in the mood there means the card-collecting achievement becomes unattainable, that would suck a lot, because it amounts to a lot of effort invested for nothing. After all, you still have to win many games to get all cards, so that in itself is sufficiently an achievement.
 
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Sethanor

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#18
Jun 23, 2015
lkl34 said:
I am sorry but you a very bad troll you cannot get the gwent collection trophy not even the fist fight one with only velen/novigrad/white orchard unlocked. You half to do alot of missions before you can play with your friends and fight against the level 26 rock troll.

Not unless you are on story only HA HA HA HA still would not be available do to your current stance in the game.
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not trolling mate... i have skellige unlocked as well (just re-checked ... all quests i've done so far (incl the ones on skellige) are still part of Act 1)
i got the trophy after the main mission where ...(spoilers ahead)
...you run around with yennefer helping the druid on skellige (as he is the last main-quest related guy you need for the trophy)
its really not that hard to get that trophy in my opinion, you just need to keep gwent in mind all the time and talk to everyone (esp. talking to people AFTER a conversation after finishing a quest for/with them.
e.g. Taler, you can get his card right away after doing his quest, if you dont talk to him again after the quest-conversation ends, you have to find him later somewhere in novigrad)
 
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M0rteus

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#19
Jun 23, 2015
lkl34 said:
I have gone through 3 play through's just to get 90% of the trophies but because i am not a developer i did not know before act 2 you must go to 1 message board in 1 section at a specific time to unlock 1 quest to get 1 gwent card fucking really? really?.

The devs must put in a place were we can buy these top secret cia only cards. I have every gwent card in the game except the one you get on the mission following the thread i am so pissed right now i could chock a horse with my bare hands.


3 play throughs 2 with a guide to get all the cryptic trophies and glitched ones like the horse races just to need a 4th for collecting fn cards.


Fix this crap before you send people into the mental institution.
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Really? You have done 3 playthroughs of which 2 with a guide, and you still think it's them? Hate to break it to you, but if you can't do it in 2 guided playthroughs, you will never be able to get it.
 
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Allekbeth

Rookie
#20
Jun 23, 2015
If it were basically impossible to fail, then it's not really an achievement is it?

I like finding all the little hidden things tucked away in side quests and discoverable locations.
When given the choice to "skip ahead farther into the story" and "do additional content", I always do the content.
Eagle eye everything when you show up and just before you leave, check every corner, make SURE you've done what you can.
It's pretty difficult to miss content if you do it this way. With very few exceptions, the game never puts you on a timer and you don't have a deadline to complete anything in X amount of time. If you miss something it's because you chose to skip it.

I did pretty much everything that could be done on my first playthrough and clocked in under 120 hours.

As an aside, Gwent is a fun little diversion, but it's not really related to the main game in any major way.
The only content it really enables is the ability to actually win the tournament, as that has slightly different cut scenes and outcomes.
Either way, the tournament is not hard, and Gwent is not hard.

If you missed cards, basically the only way to do that is to skip content.

So I can't really understand the arguement that you should be able to be a completionist AND be able to skip content at the same time.
That's basically a big "Fuck You" to everyone that took their time and did what they needed to in order to clear content legitimately.
 
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