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I have question to DEVS, would there be monorail/subway system in future like DLC.

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muh3yxap4e

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Dec 15, 2020
I was so hyped about the monorail and just walking around it while travels through night city. I hope it'll come eventually.

Let me know.
 
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youthzero

youthzero

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Dec 17, 2020
There are subway stations, it's called quick travel.
 
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SlowHandClap

SlowHandClap

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#3
Dec 17, 2020
No
 
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GrimReaper801

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#4
Dec 17, 2020
You honestly think you're getting an answer?

The devs will be avoiding the forum at all cost for now.
 
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gallantchar

gallantchar

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Dec 17, 2020
SlowHandClap said:
No
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Low effort.

muh3yxap4e said:
I was so hyped about the monorail and just walking around it while travels through night city. I hope it'll come eventually.

Let me know.
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Wish I could give you some promises. The subway/monorail/tram is in there, it’s just quick travel. I hope that they’ll flesh that out, along with the Jackie montage, the city itself, the main story (with making it feel more impactful than on rails) and tons of other issues the community brought up.

But until CDPR acknowledges that we have a point and commits to bringing them in patches or DLC, we can only expect we will have what we have now and get nothing in the future.
 
Telet_Zaza_Tubby

Telet_Zaza_Tubby

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Dec 17, 2020
Doing nomad the game feel easy even on very hard
 
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gallantchar

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Dec 17, 2020
GrimReaper801 said:
You honestly think you're getting an answer?

The devs will be avoiding the forum at all cost for now.
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The devs themselves aren’t the problem, but I understand why they wouldn’t want to poke their noses in here.

It’s the management and shareholders. Our displeasure with the game affects the stock. That effects their bottom dollar. According to what I know of the investor call, the shareholders are asking CDPR if they’re going to fix the game.
 
SlowHandClap

SlowHandClap

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Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
The devs themselves aren’t the problem, but I understand why they wouldn’t want to poke their noses in here.

It’s the management and shareholders. Our displeasure with the game affects the stock. That effects their bottom dollar. According to what I know of the investor call, the shareholders are asking CDPR if they’re going to fix the game.
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You love to see it.
 
animalfather

animalfather

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Dec 17, 2020
There already are trains, but you can't ride them.

 
gallantchar

gallantchar

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Dec 17, 2020
SlowHandClap said:
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You love to see it.
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I know this is a phrase, but I feel emotionally obligated to admit I don’t like seeing it. It’s a testament to the issue at hand.

They messed up, stock tanked, now they’re on fire. It sucks, I hate seeing it, but like I’ve said since I joined here, they need to be communicative with us.
 
SlowHandClap

SlowHandClap

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Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
I know this is a phrase, but I feel emotionally obligated to admit I don’t like seeing it. It’s a testament to the issue at hand.

They messed up, stock tanked, now they’re on fire. It sucks, I hate seeing it, but like I’ve said since I joined here, they need to be communicative with us.
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It's almost as if deceiving their loyal customers and scamming console gamers has consequences that can't be fixed with a Twitter apology.
 
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gallantchar

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Dec 17, 2020
SlowHandClap said:
It's almost as if deceiving their loyal customers and scamming console gamers has consequences that can't be fixed with a Twitter apology.
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I agree, wholly and completely. It’s just sad to see this happen again.

Everyone had their first, mine was BioWare with ME:A, then Game Freak with SwSh. CDPR was supposed to be better than that.
 
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GrimReaper801

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Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
The devs themselves aren’t the problem, but I understand why they wouldn’t want to poke their noses in here.

It’s the management and shareholders. Our displeasure with the game affects the stock. That effects their bottom dollar. According to what I know of the investor call, the shareholders are asking CDPR if they’re going to fix the game.
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I wasn't implying the devs are the problem. In all honesty, I hardly blame management either. Myself, I blame mostly the shareholders. The pressure they were applying this last year must have been absurd for CDPR to release the game in this state.

Still, considering the general shittyness of the gamer community... yeah, any developer should stay away from the forum at the moment. Even though this forum is generally very civil.
 
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UntitledPerson

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Dec 17, 2020
I believe in an interview they said no.
 
gallantchar

gallantchar

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Dec 17, 2020
GrimReaper801 said:
I wasn't implying the devs are the problem. In all honesty, I hardly blame management either. Myself, I blame mostly the shareholders. The pressure they were applying this last year must have been absurd for CDPR to release the game in this state.

Still, considering the general shittyness of the gamer community... yeah, any developer should stay away from the forum at the moment. Even though this forum is generally very civil.
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I’d be willing to exempt the management from my displeasure if something comes out that shows the shareholders basically forced them to release the game, and then afterward did what they did in the investor call.

I mean, wouldn’t change my opinion of the investors at all regardless, but it’d definitely fit what the typical picture of management/employee relations works, with a “get it done now” and then “why is it effed up” when you were forced to push out an unfinished product.

But this is largely speculation—we know it’s very likely that the shareholders ARE to blame in part. But that’s about it.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

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Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
I’d be willing to exempt the management from my displeasure if something comes out that shows the shareholders basically forced them to release the game, and then afterward did what they did in the investor call.

I mean, wouldn’t change my opinion of the investors at all regardless, but it’d definitely fit what the typical picture of management/employee relations works, with a “get it done now” and then “why is it effed up” when you were forced to push out an unfinished product.

But this is largely speculation—we know it’s very likely that the shareholders ARE to blame in part. But that’s about it.
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Problem is, for investor, fixing the gae only means make it bug free so console players can be satisfied so the sales can go back up again.
Don't think too deep into it. In this contect fixing the game only means making it playable. The game is in a state that is fun if you don't dig too deep into it. And unfortuantely that means for the average gamer/comsumer that is enough. Which unfortunately means it's enough for the sales which means it's enough for the company.
 
gallantchar

gallantchar

Forum regular
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Dec 17, 2020
Kikinho said:
Problem is, for investor, fixing the gae only means make it bug free so console players can be satisfied so the sales can go back up again.
Don't think too deep into it. In this contect fixing the game only means making it playable. The game is in a state that is fun if you don't dig too deep into it. And unfortuantely that means for the average gamer/comsumer that is enough. Which unfortunately means it's enough for the sales which means it's enough for the company.
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That needs to not be the case, honestly. It needs to be known far and wide the amount of content that was promised and cut, not just on here.

Enough so that just bug fixing and making it playable isn’t enough.
 
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GrimReaper801

Senior user
#18
Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
I’d be willing to exempt the management from my displeasure if something comes out that shows the shareholders basically forced them to release the game, and then afterward did what they did in the investor call.

I mean, wouldn’t change my opinion of the investors at all regardless, but it’d definitely fit what the typical picture of management/employee relations works, with a “get it done now” and then “why is it effed up” when you were forced to push out an unfinished product.

But this is largely speculation—we know it’s very likely that the shareholders ARE to blame in part. But that’s about it.
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Not to mention, no company would ever throw the shareholders under the bus like that. We'll never know but generally speaking investors are there only for profits.

If the 314$ million USD budget rumors are to be believed, the pre-orders alone were enough to get into profit territory. My guess is that investors are fairly uninterested in the game at this point. As long as it works and the company can't be sued (thus risking their investment) I doubt they give a crap.

Now is when management needs to step up and sell fixing the game to investors so that even they support it.
 
gallantchar

gallantchar

Forum regular
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Dec 17, 2020
GrimReaper801 said:
Not to mention, no company would ever throw the shareholders under the bus like that. We'll never know but generally speaking investors are there only for profits.

If the 314$ million USD budget rumors are to be believed, the pre-orders alone were enough to get into profit territory. My guess is that investors are fairly uninterested in the game at this point. As long as it works and the company can't be sued (thus risking their investment) I doubt they give a crap.

Now is when management needs to step up and sell fixing the game to investors so that even they support it.
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If that’s all it takes, then that’s what they should do.

Essentially, it’d be a simple pitch:

“If we work more on this project, filling in the game with more content, as well as content we had to cut due to time constraints, that will translate into more good will, and guarantee not only more sales of the game through word of mouth, but also garner more sales potential in the future with more games.”

All they’d hear is dollar signs, and that should be enough, honestly.
 
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GrimReaper801

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Dec 17, 2020
gallantchar said:
If that’s all it takes, then that’s what they should do.

Essentially, it’d be a simple pitch:

“If we work more on this project, filling in the game with more content, as well as content we had to cut due to time constraints, that will translate into more good will, and guarantee not only more sales of the game through word of mouth, but also garner more sales potential in the future with more games.”

All they’d hear is dollar signs, and that should be enough, honestly.
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As someone who has sold easier sales pitches to boards... there is no simple pitch in front of investors but yes, that's what it needs to be in essence.
 
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