I LOVE IT vs I HATE IT

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Nice to hear that you enjoyed the game so much :)
Jay1 said:
Numerous times I found myself depressed when I was to make a decision; do I take the gold and do something that I know I would feel bad about all game long? or do i help the damsel in distress and gain nothing but a hearty "thank you", leaving at least my integrity intact? >.
 
Loved it. Unfortunately, since writing a proper helpful review of what works and what doesn't--it would take spoilers which are not allowed here.
 
Aw He11, I don't think this review carries much in the way of spoilers and I need to put this up and hope the Dev's see it:********************Well since I saw this topic and have been pondering this since my first playthrough I'd like to do a thorough analysis. Just saying "love it--hate it" isn't useful to those who write the scripts or game. As a writer, I can at least analyze [for the English Enhanced Version] what worked and what didn't. Also, I will review strictly from the game, not the books or added materials.Let me start by saying this game is brilliant. I haven't seen a game with this much political and emotional impact since Morrowind or Torment. In fact, as a successor, I'd say Torment would be it's predecessor in terms of dark content and truly epic decision making. Where it outshines either of those, is of course in graphics and fighting styles.***************************Characterization:Geralt is the best protagonist to come out gaming in years. There's nothing more boring than another chiseled Hollywood profile and body that look like it's never seen the slashing end of sword or claws with the face of a twenty-year old actor. Geralt is scar-covered and his body looks like that of a well-built late thirties or forties, not a pretty boy actor. He doesn't look all squeaky clean. He looks dusty, haggard, greasy-haired [I really wish that was not changing for Witcher 2 but what's done is done] and like a man who lives in a Medevil age.He is a convincing character for someone who makes his living swinging a sword.The voice, in English, is a real plus. Gravelly, deep, hard and sounding like a man who has had a difficult life. The dry humour and sense of irony don't always come across well unless the player listens closely and figures out the intent, which I suggest, any player who loves the game will do, but less casual players may miss much of his dark humour and irony.He comes with a inherent sense of being a conflicted man. This allows the player to play any one of three positions and still have access to dialogue that may support his position while he remains conflicted about the "rightness" of his choices. Good call, writers.Unfortunately, I have to say that the other characters were not nearly so well drawn. Zoltan perhaps, is the best with Kalkstein second. I honestly couldn't see a man like Geralt having a dilettante like Dandelion as his best friend. Perhaps that is simply what comes across in the English version of the game or Dandelion requires more in-game time to come across as "real".I'll cover the female NPC's in the sexuality portion.Yaevin and Sigfried were well drawn. Sigfried, coming across as a friendly, helpful guy while supporting a racist cause vs. Yaevinn was thoroughly unlikeable yet sympathetic in the service of his cause. This sets up a great conflicting scenario for Geralt--does he side with the underdogs, whose leader is a calculating SOB who will stop at nothing to win or does he side with the well-meaning misguided bigot working for a organization that is brutal?I would like to see more the rationales used for those in the Order of the Flaming Rose for their bigotry. Bigots have justifications for why they hate other groups and this would improve the characterizations.**********************Dialogue:Some was simply jaw dropping. Some was so darkly comedic that I replayed the scenes several times just to hear it again. Great moments included when Shani asked for a ring and my emotional impact [and I'm female} was an instant sense of being trapped or forced into a decision I wasn't prepared to make--that's great writing. The stag party cutscene and dialogue were so funny I played them three times.The confrontation with the villagers and Reverend was another gobsmacker. I don't know who wrote that piece of dialogue but it should go down in cRPG history as one of the best speeches, ever. Geralt's absolute disgust is palpable. Kudos to the actor playing Geralt who pulled off this speech, as well.However, some of the dialogue between characters didn't make sense from a "flow" between characters. One character would say one thing and the other would cut in with information that was irrelevant to what Geralt just said. Some tighter editing in English would help this.****************Adult Themes/Sexuality/Relationship/Female NPC's:Now, I know this game is accused of misogyny. As an avid women's libber--I honestly don't understand the complaint. I never wanted to leap the bones of a male protagonist NPC more in my life as I did when I played this game.It is presumptuous to assume women don't want sex. The game is set in a time period where the hazards of pregnancy, death by childbirth and sexually transmitted diseases would be rampant. Therefore, Geralt becomes a legitimate choice for a woman as a sex partner because he can neither pass on a disease nor impregnate his partners.Sex trade workers are a fact of life. It is Geralt's choice whether to partake or not depending on the character choices.Where this falls down however, is some of the "gifting". Yes, a bottle of wine for the evening makes sense. Sex trade workers who will do favours after being rescued from gangs of assassins makes sense. However, many woman offering sex as gratitude, does not. Nor does gifting bored noblewomen. My main "problem" with it was the Vampiresses because Geralt could not turn down their offer and still rescue them from the knights. That left him with less options if he was involved with a single partner.The score cards were rather juvenile.The presentation of sexuality was well done. The flying swords, dropping pendants, shoving the stuff off the table then engaging etc and afterward cutting to a fuzzy scene made much more sense to me than characters supposedly engaging in sex, in their modern underwear. Some "afterscenes" would have been interesting and added to the relationships with his closer partners.Some of the sexuality showed a sense of humour [the waitress from the bar] and Shani's creation of dinner for Princess Adda. Good job.Shani and Triss were a low point for me. Both came across as shallow puddle water even though Triss is supposed to be a scheming sorceress who might have been much more interesting. Frankly, I couldn't see someone like Geralt really caring about either of them. The female writing of NPC's were definitely a weak spot in this game for me.**********************************Interesting Tidbits:I thought the whole piece about the King being incestuous, creating a daughter who could be turned into a Striga because of it, then allowing her murders of villagers to be an amazing bit of intrigue. So where does one's loyalty lie when the King [and entire nobility] are in on this filthy little agenda? Interesting.The lack of money/loot in the game made it far more immersive. After all, Geralt is a working guy--he's not going to have scads of money at his disposal unless he works for it, even if that's killing monsters for parts.**********************Plot:Brilliant. One of the best pieces IMO was the dovetailing of double sets of quests in order to complete main plotlines. First play through, one has no idea which sidequests result in helping the main quest. Well thought out approach. The twists and turns were well executed.I also liked the idea that this hard-living man could make money by brawling, drinking and gambling. I also enjoyed the ending where the antagonist confronted Geralt with his decisions--that Geralt himself is, in fact, a death machine and that disaster walks in his footsteps even when he means well. The emotional impact was devastatingly real. Well written.It was also impact-fully realistic that there was no "happy" ending. The class analysis was also well shown. Geralt is a "working man" who is courted by nobility when it suits their purposes and they don't much care how they use him and he is forced into complying even when he knows he's being used. Truly edgy and dark.The lack of clear-cut morality plays out all the time in this game. Well done. That is what makes a game "dark". There's nothing dark about a game where the protagonist gets more points for playing a squeaky clean Paladin type than s/he does for playing an immoral rogue.****************************The World Building:Honestly, there is nothing I hate more than being stuck for 90% of an RPG in an ugly dungeon. All I can say to the project team is "my extreme gratitude' for making a great deal of the gameplay outdoors in a realistic environment to explore.There needed to be more variety in NPC's. I know this complaint has been said before but I found myself chasing characters down the street who were just crowd and not the fellow I was looking for, a number of times. At least give them more changes of clothes if the team doesn't have time to make new bodies, faces etc.I thought some of the quips of background characters was brilliant. "Here comes a witcher. Lock up your women!" cracked me up, every time. So did the fellow who was peeing in the alley outside the Hairy Bear. Also the one who says [paraphrase], "In the middle of this mess and that's all we need--a witcher." It made Geralt seem more "real" in the environment.*****************************Technical and Game Play:The combat was not only much more interesting than a standard clickfest, the motion capture for some of it was intensely realistic. It wasn't perfect, but it was darn good.For some of the reviews that complained about the potion making--I played on normal and I just clicked on the standard sorts of potions, nothing fancy and got through the game knowing little about alchemy and just using standard potions, so I don't think the criticism of it's complexity [except at harder settings?] holds up.Although it took a bit of work to "get it" and two playthroughs of the prologue to obtain some basic understanding I found it easily playable without ever opening the manual.I want to thank the mapping people. I have serious trouble with directions and the ability to highlight a spot [say the pub] and then be able to get there easily helped a great deal for those of us who struggle with direction and spatial relationships. This made the game much more enjoyable.I liked the watercolour/drawings/paintings between scenes. Much better than the average map or silly tips stuff that most games stick in to keep the player amused while waiting.On a financial level I want to say that I paid half for this game at full retail than what a number of other games out presently, cost. As a financial investment in a game, this one is worth every penny. It takes more than 100 hours to play and explore even if one only ever plays through it once, it was great entertainment for pennies per hour.All in all, this game is on my Top 3 list of all games I've ever played.Excellent work, Projekt Red.
 
Well, I haven't read it but it looks like you put your heart in it. Sorry, it looks challenging to me just now :) You should consider posting this review on game sites too.
 
Wow, that was a very nice review! :DI agree with most of it, but:- I think that Dandallion being Geralt's best friend is credible- Dandallion is everything Geralt is not: light-hearted, downright irresponsible and optimistic about himself to a fault. Maybe Geralt sees these things in Dandallion and wishes he could live (at least a bit) as carefree as his best friend does? I know quite a few people who are totally opposites in terms of character and still are very good friends.About Yaevin and Siegfried: Man i hated this elven SOB all game long °,..,° , hiding his own hunger for revenge behind pathetic speeches, blind to any reason and his original motivation for the war long forgotten...And then there is Siegfried, who I cannot decide what he is: meaning well but totally, utterly incredibly stupid without an opinion on his own OR a pretencious prick who just found the perfect group to live out his dream of racial discrimination and violence in the name of a "higher power". Well in either case: I seriously hated this guy :|(which is a compliment to the devs; didnt think I could invest myself so emotionally to HATE a NPC this much :eek: ....which is why I had no hard time at all deciding to stay neutral^^once again, excellent review.
 
Jay1 said:
Wow, that was a very nice review! :DI agree with most of it, but:- I think that Dandallion being Geralt's best friend is credible- Dandallion is everything Geralt is not: light-hearted, downright irresponsible and optimistic about himself to a fault. Maybe Geralt sees these things in Dandallion and wishes he could live (at least a bit) as carefree as his best friend does? I know quite a few people who are totally opposites in terms of character and still are very good friends.About Yaevin and Siegfried: Man i hated this elven SOB all game long °,..,° , hiding his own hunger for revenge behind pathetic speeches, blind to any reason and his original motivation for the war long forgotten...And then there is Siegfried, who I cannot decide what he is: meaning well but totally, utterly incredibly stupid without an opinion on his own OR a pretencious prick who just found the perfect group to live out his dream of racial discrimination and violence in the name of a "higher power". Well in either case: I seriously hated this guy :|(which is a compliment to the devs; didnt think I could invest myself so emotionally to HATE a NPC this much :eek: ....which is why I had no hard time at all deciding to stay neutral^^once again, excellent review.
Thank you for the response..Yay a discussion!Me? I saw Sigfried as a pretentious [good choice of word, thanks] but friendly fool, probably not intensely bigoted but going along to get along, desperate for companionship. The kind that realizes he's just joined the KKK but unwilling to nark out his buddies.I saw Yaevinn very differently. Which I also thought was pretty smart writing because some decisions can be based in a person's experience of racism or political perspective or whether the player will base it on personal friendship [Sigfried is helpful and fairly nice about things].I understood Yaevinn. When I looked around town and saw that by the Flaming Order Lodge they had been hanging elves, listened to the townspeople talk and saw the poverty of the elves, saw them starving out by the lake and the treachery in Muddy Waters--I "got" Yaevinn. Yaevinn was the "Malcom X" or "Sitting Bull" of the game. He didn't pull punches about what he was willing to do to rectify the situation and he wasn't personally likeable to humans.I had a hard time with neutral [2nd play through] because I knew the Elves were going to be slaughtered in Muddy Waters.The first play I sided with the elves. Yaevinn aside, politically, I actually thought the cause was just--he's fighting a genocide. Also, Geralt was killed with a pitchfork by angry townsfolk fighting a pogram. I was appalled to return and find Vizimi burning and thought it was MY fault [again good writing and a good reason to never read ahead!] until the second playthrough where I was neutral and the civil war started anyway. I think perhaps Dandelion just didn't come across as intelligent or thought-provoking for me. That could be either translation or lack of depth. I understand he might be Geralt's opposite and probably his "wheel greaser" but I just figured he could have been better drawn out, or said a few astute things that would help me understand what they have in common.
 
oops, i mistyped the word pretentious, thx for the correction :)The reason why i couldnt get along with neither of the two mentioned above was that Yaevin was fighting for (in my opinion) the wrong reasons- he just seemed to me like he was craving for blood, which IS understandable considering the bloodshed his kind had to suffer, yet I could not sympathize with him -_- he just seemed so .... eaten up by his own anger, clouding his judgement.and siegfried is (I dont know how to put it more detailed) "weak"- he may be polite and friendly as a person, but I think that his heart is not in the right place; he got the goods and skills to make a stand, yet decides to work for an organization that supports bigotry (am I using this word right? ^^) and racial persecution, which (in my eyes) makes him even worse than the stereotype, stupid "i-hate-everything-that-aint-like-me" kinda guy. Well aside from that, I agree that Dandelion did not get enough attention to develop a depth which players could really relate to.I am at the second playthrough at the moment, and I gotta say that the devs of this game seriously deserve some kind of award for epic quest-scripting! I just love how sidequests influence the outcome of the main ones. :DWell maybe I will try to side with the elves this time- IF I can get myself to feel sorry for them D:%P.S.: and what the hell is up with this Vodyanoi shrine in the swamps ?? Oo
 
Jay1 said:
oops, i mistyped the word pretentious, thx for the correction :)The reason why i couldnt get along with neither of the two mentioned above was that Yaevin was fighting for (in my opinion) the wrong reasons- he just seemed to me like he was craving for blood, which IS understandable considering the bloodshed his kind had to suffer, yet I could not sympathize with him -_- he just seemed so .... eaten up by his own anger, clouding his judgement.and siegfried is (I dont know how to put it more detailed) "weak"- he may be polite and friendly as a person, but I think that his heart is not in the right place; he got the goods and skills to make a stand, yet decides to work for an organization that supports bigotry (am I using this word right? ^^) and racial persecution, which (in my eyes) makes him even worse than the stereotype, stupid "i-hate-everything-that-aint-like-me" kinda guy. Well aside from that, I agree that Dandelion did not get enough attention to develop a depth which players could really relate to.I am at the second playthrough at the moment, and I gotta say that the devs of this game seriously deserve some kind of award for epic quest-scripting! I just love how sidequests influence the outcome of the main ones. :DWell maybe I will try to side with the elves this time- IF I can get myself to feel sorry for them D:%P.S.: and what the hell is up with this Vodyanoi shrine in the swamps ?? Oo
If you look past Yaevinn personally and listen to him beyond his arrogance [about what happened to him when he tried to get along with humans, not *how* he says it, but *what* he's saying--he's a disgruntled guy who actually tried to be nice then realized, it didn't serve him] it might look different. Also, remember he's not the only elf around. Some of the others are much nicer.I looked past personalities to *causes/politics* to play as a rebel on the non-human side. As neutral, I looked only at Geralt's concerns as a professional Witcher.I see Siegfried as one of those gutless folk that really don't believe in their cause--they just go along to get along even though they become fully aware they're doing damage [as one other Flaming Rose guy tells you later about Sigfried saying there was no honour in fighting starving elves that had little weaponry]And you're right. Sigfried seems to me one of those guys who *could* do some good in the world if they'd stop blinding themselves to the "righteousness" of their cause and look honestly at the painful reality. I can give that much to Yaevinn--he's not the least bit deluded, he sees it as "us vs. Them" and in reality--it is, in this case.I don't think I could stomach playing for the Order, even though I'm sure it would lend another viewpoint to the game. I wonder if Sigfried ever realizes the evil he's perpetrating?Yes I liked the dovetailing of quests. I think it was a great dev strategy that stops meta-gaming on the first play through.I'm on play 3. I'm going for the rebel side right from the start this time. Last time I played rebel I didn't start it until the bank hold up and I was only trying to get the hostages out safely when I sided that time. The Order had me backed into a corner because they were going to slaughter the elves for sure and I also was aware that Vivaldi's bank had been stolen out from under Vivaldi.My true disgust came when I tried to negotiate in Muddy Waters, cooked the deal to save the hostages and the Order SOB's sneaked in to slaughter the elves anyway. I demmed near threw up.As for the Vodyonoi alter--have you spoken with the lumberjacks, then Vaska?
 
Yes i talked to them, even to this digusting Gramps who likes Manburgers X_x (whom i slaughtered right away^^)But my problem is that i cannot understand what they are trying to tell me by swapping items i place in their altar OoWell, during my first playthrough i barely gave it any attention, I was too curious how the plot would unfold as I went further on :)And I seem to have been too hasty with my judgement on Yaevinn- I started to support the elves already, siding with them in Act II already. I hope the story will take some new turns this time, as I already played the neutral path once [which was very very interesting, maybe the path you (as the player) are going to struggle the most with due to your moral ambiguity]. That is why I love this game so much- "the price of neutrality" is really a bitch to pay for :XAnd I would like to adress something that you mentioned in your review: Triss and Shana being very shallow characters. It is true that they seem somewhat flat in terms of character development, but I only can speak for Triss so far^^But Triss seemed credible to me, all things considered- a very highly acknowleged mage who has significant political influence, busy with so many connections to keep in balance, that, if it was NOT Geralt, she would not find the time for intimate relationships. Of course there is also the fact that Geralt plays a major role in the outcome of all their near future, so Triss might be obliged to involve herself with Geralt. But I think I will go for Triss again this time as I find her much more believable as a human character than Shani. But I absolutely agree that overall, it might have done this game some good if they had invested a little more in these two Ladies' relationship developments with Geralt. Especially towards the end I found myself calling "my girl" things like "cold, bitchy" in my mind ^^ It felt as if she was forcibly trying to make me "prove my worth" to her... so these girls like to "give it away" BEFORE checking if Geralt was serious about them? Oo I didnt get this part D:Oh if there is one thing I dont like about this game, it would have to be these epic loading times.. I already read that the original release was hell compared to the EE (which I am playing), but it seriously is getting on my nerves when i have to wait for 15 seconds for the transition D:< (especially in the Trade quarter, what the hell X_x)Hopefully, The Witcher 2 will have solved these problems. Long loading times in a game like this with massive area transitions can be a dealbreaker for a lot of people.
 
Jay1 said:
Yes i talked to them, even to this digusting Gramps who likes Manburgers X_x (whom i slaughtered right away^^)But my problem is that i cannot understand what they are trying to tell me by swapping items i place in their altar OoWell, during my first playthrough i barely gave it any attention, I was too curious how the plot would unfold as I went further on :)And I seem to have been too hasty with my judgement on Yaevinn- I started to support the elves already, siding with them in Act II already. I hope the story will take some new turns this time, as I already played the neutral path once [which was very very interesting, maybe the path you (as the player) are going to struggle the most with due to your moral ambiguity]. That is why I love this game so much- "the price of neutrality" is really a ****** to pay for :XAnd I would like to adress something that you mentioned in your review: Triss and Shana being very shallow characters. It is true that they seem somewhat flat in terms of character development, but I only can speak for Triss so far^^But Triss seemed credible to me, all things considered- a very highly acknowleged mage who has significant political influence, busy with so many connections to keep in balance, that, if it was NOT Geralt, she would not find the time for intimate relationships. Of course there is also the fact that Geralt plays a major role in the outcome of all their near future, so Triss might be obliged to involve herself with Geralt. But I think I will go for Triss again this time as I find her much more believable as a human character than Shani. But I absolutely agree that overall, it might have done this game some good if they had invested a little more in these two Ladies' relationship developments with Geralt. Especially towards the end I found myself calling "my girl" things like "cold, ******" in my mind ^^ It felt as if she was forcibly trying to make me "prove my worth" to her... so these girls like to "give it away" BEFORE checking if Geralt was serious about them? Oo I didnt get this part D:Oh if there is one thing I dont like about this game, it would have to be these epic loading times.. I already read that the original release was hell compared to the EE (which I am playing), but it seriously is getting on my nerves when i have to wait for 15 seconds for the transition D:< (especially in the Trade quarter, what the hell X_x)Hopefully, The Witcher 2 will have solved these problems. Long loading times in a game like this with massive area transitions can be a dealbreaker for a lot of people.
You can't speak Vodiynoi? *laff* Gloob gloob...It's not about talking--it's about making peace between the lumberjacks and Vodies. Didja talk to the old lady [name has slipped my mind] the old priestess of the Vodies?It's not Shani or Triss' relationship with Geralt that concerns me--it's their lack of credibility, period. They aren't as well rounded as say, Zoltan Chivay [although there's a bit of background on Shani] or other main secondary male characters. Again, it may be another place in this game where the dialogue is lacking. The one secondary character whose dialogue shines and who comes across very three dimensionally, is Thaler. The other is Kalkstein--you'd think that there'd be that kind of attention paid to Shani and Triss who are supposed to be his main romantic interests?Also, when Geralt wakes up, she is talking through the mirror. Says she'll "tell him later" but she never does? The ball dropped on that one...As I said, as Geralt--I found Triss' pushing for the ring bugged me which means it probably was well-written. All I could think of was, "Hey, I'm a guy Witcher. I take my comfort where I can find it--now I'm turning into insta-family over this kid that was bounced through at least three places before I stumbled onto him--and some woman wants to turn this into the Brady bunch? WTF???!!!"The second time--I didn't give her a ring, got plastered with Zoltan and Dandelion and wandered off to the whorehouse for the night. She still complained I woke up the neighbors. *laff*I don't find the load times in TWEE that bad. I played DOA and by the time I hit Orzammar I had time to run the garbage down six flights of stairs and wash half the dishes. At the end scene, it's a good thing that I killed the everything leading up to the mofo archdemon right off in most playthroughs or I'd have chucked the dvd off the balcony.As for elfishness--I just talked to the dwarf blacksmith--talk to that dude, and Vivaldi and the other non-humans. What's being done to them is completely warped. Did you save Zoltan from the racists?This time I'm gonna side with Shani and see where that takes me. At least she keeps her butt in her pants at diplomatic events even if she is jealous when I tried to hook up Dandelion with Carmen at the party...
 
LOVE ITI bought this way back and i regret to say i never finished it. Finding time to play again, i dusted this off, installed it, and am left wondering how the hell i was able to pull myself away from this one. As amazing today as it was back when i first fired it up.I have the steam version, so while it was downloading i was thinking that i actually might not like it. You know when you have very fond memories of a game and you fire it back up years later, you are left wishing you hadn't because your memories are better than what it is after years of new game advancements.Not the Witcher, it's (dare i say) a classic.
 
Heya guys!I don't know if the relevant people still check these boards, or if they still require feedback for future games but here goes.I only just discovered this game and haven't played it very much, but here are my first impressions:+VE- The graphics are gorgeous,- The soundtrack is brilliant, some tracks sound a little BSGesque (New version),- The storyline is solid,- The tutorial is very good,- The controls and things to do seem simple enough.-VE- I personally feel the random sex scenes could do with being left out, or a choice at least given :p.- I personally feel that the way the characters voices change is a little silly. You can speak to someone who will reply in an American accent and they will terminate the conversation for whatever reason, if you talk to them again they're Welsh or a C0c kney :p.- The voice acting is sometimes a little monotone and doesn't seem realistic.- The combat style is different, which isn't a bad thing, but in my experience is a tiny bit unresponsive i.e. clicking when the orange trail comes on and it not registering that you correctly clicked for the sequence.- I was a little taken back by things like (I can't remember the exact wording) ''Your mother sucks Dwarf c**k'' and ''Why does a prick go in c**t? It's the natural order of things.'' I swear like everyone else but I found this a little shocking, maybe I'm just old fashioned or something, but I like RPGs to not resemble the chavs of today :p.Great game so far, looking forward to getting deeper into the story.EDIT: Hehe the games full of fowl language but swearing on the games official forums gets turned into ****'s :p.
 

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Amarynthia said:
Heya guys!I don't know if the relevant people still check these boards, or if they still require feedback for future games but here goes.
Welcome. Well, since TW2 is in the making, I'm not sure if the devs look around in this section so very much longer.But you of course can join the threads in the official part of the TW2 forum. You've possibly seen the first videos or screenshots from the sequel already. So there is a lot of discussion going on about the new look and what the new engine may bring, if you like and what's highly appreciated - join and leave your message. ^-^
-VE- I personally feel the random sex scenes could do with being left out, or a choice at least given :p.
Seen from a different point of view - these scenes with the cards were almost "harmless". Fortunately, most scenes are no real "must-do... her".I'm really looking forward to the sequel concerning this matter... (I hope it's not Pixel-Porn, but a bit tasteful.)
- I personally feel that the way the characters voices change is a little silly. You can speak to someone who will reply in an American accent and they will terminate the conversation for whatever reason, if you talk to them again they're Welsh or a C0c kney :p.
Yes, that's one of the games problems, although the english version is not the worst! Personally I could enjoy it, but I'm no native speaker, so I might possibly see (or hear, isn't it? =.=) not such a big difference between welsh and cockney accent.Worst voice acting for me is still the german version, if you want something without emotion, you should download the german language pack. ;-)
- The voice acting is sometimes a little monotone and doesn't seem realistic.
I just refer to my last words the lines before...
- The combat style is different, which isn't a bad thing, but in my experience is a tiny bit unresponsive i.e. clicking when the orange trail comes on and it not registering that you correctly clicked for the sequence.
That for sure was also topic for many discussions. Some felt, this was a bit too easy and a stroll even on hard mode. We'll see what's changed concerning combat in part 2.
- I was a little taken back by things like (I can't remember the exact wording) ''Your mother sucks Dwarf c**k'' and ''Why does a prick go in c**t? It's the natural order of things.'' I swear like everyone else but I found this a little shocking, maybe I'm just old fashioned or something, but I like RPGs to not resemble the chavs of today :p.
I've been playing games like Baldurs Gate, NWN - NWN2, Morrowind, Oblvion and the Gothic series before and although there was some minor swearing in "Gothic", I was also surprised when hearing that stuff in TW, but somehow I also could not hold back my laughter, because I did not believe what I just heard. I more think it's just the other way round - the other games are a little bit too clean (some almost sterile) and actually cussing is for sure no new invention of our modern times. Sure, they could have done without and it still would resemble a game for adults with a great atmosphere.
EDIT: Hehe the games full of fowl language but swearing on the games official forums gets turned into ****'s :p.
Fuck! No cussing! ò,óHonestly, althought I'm against censorship, I guess it's okay when we don't drown in swear words (too much). Aside that, we are no northern kingdom bandits nor dwarves (exceptions, please step up) and it should be possible to express ourselves without the use of too many four-letter-words (what doesn't mean, that true "shit" has lost it's meaning...).
 
Amarynthia said:
- I personally feel the random sex scenes could do with being left out, or a choice at least given :p.
A choice IS given. If I remember correctly, the only obligatory sex scene is the one with Triss at the beginning of Chapter III, the one where she "checks Geralt for internal injuries." All of the other ones are optional. If you opted in, well, why did you do that?
I was a little taken back by things like (I can't remember the exact wording) ''Your mother sucks Dwarf c**k'' and ''Why does a prick go in c**t? It's the natural order of things.'' I swear like everyone else but I found this a little shocking, maybe I'm just old fashioned or something, but I like RPGs to not resemble the chavs of today :p.
The Witcher is based on the novels and short stories of a Polish fantasy author named Andrzej Sapkowski. Sapkowski's world includes plenty of swearing, and if the developers were going to be true to the books, they had to include plenty of swearing. Plus, the swearing is one of the reasons why people like Sapkowski's books; instead of talking in flowery, high-faluting language that nobody ever actually uses, his characters talk like real people.I read somewhere that translating the swearing into English was extremely difficult. The translators said that Polish is a language that's rich in swearing, and the game had a wide assortment of swear words in its original language. Then they tried to translate that into English and found that we had maybe a half-dozen words that we use for everything. Clearly, those of us who are native speakers of English need to make up some new swear words. :)
 
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A choice IS given. If I remember correctly, the only obligatory sex scene is the one with Triss at the beginning of Chapter III, the one where she "checks Geralt for internal injuries." All of the other ones are optional. If you opted in, well, why did you do that?
Heya Corylea,Yeah I mean, for example: As it was my first time playing, I thought agreeing to stay with Triss in the tutorial bit after her accident would have opened up additional dialogue etc not her fully recovering and pouncing on me lol. I honestly (believe it or not :p) didn't expect a sex scene to follow, I honestly thought it would end up being innocently me keeping her company for a few conversations. As for the choice, I mean, in that sitation, conversation or sex :p.
 

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Amarynthia said:
Amarynthia said:
A choice IS given. If I remember correctly, the only obligatory sex scene is the one with Triss at the beginning of Chapter III, the one where she "checks Geralt for internal injuries." All of the other ones are optional. If you opted in, well, why did you do that?
Heya Corylea,Yeah I mean, for example: As it was my first time playing, I thought agreeing to stay with Triss in the tutorial bit after her accident would have opened up additional dialogue etc not her fully recovering and pouncing on me lol. I honestly (believe it or not :p) didn't expect a sex scene to follow, I honestly thought it would end up being innocently me keeping her company for a few conversations. As for the choice, I mean, in that sitation, conversation or sex :p.
May I Cory? Btw, good to see you back!
This actually is well observed by the devs - Triss from the books is in love with Geralt, but in the novels Geralt only has one true love, the sorceress Yennefer (whom is a friend of Triss). So it's very likely, when the witcher comes back (we must assume Yen is/has dead/disappeared to another world) to the living, Triss tries to seduce him - or in this case "using" his amnesia. In the novels she's terribly yearning for his love. This same conversation was also a bit strange when I did my first play through, as I did not know the books the game was based on. (I hope) With the background knowledge it makes a bit more sense.
 
Heya Unkreativ!Thanks for clearing that up for me, that makes much more sense now!Are the novels quite easy to get hold of in English?
 

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Amarynthia said:
Heya Unkreativ!Thanks for clearing that up for me, that makes much more sense now!Are the novels quite easy to get hold of in English?
I've read the saga so far in german (next issue is released in August, and the last novel is due next year somewhere around march) and only a few pages of the english edition. It's not bad, but a crucial issue so far is, that there is no release in english of "Schwert der Vorsehung/Miecz Przeznaczenia" - "Sword of Destiny" which is the second short story collection. Without it, it actually is a bit complicated to follow the novels, as a lot of the short stories in "Sword of Destiny" are the prelude to the plot in the novels. Some of the short stories were translated by fans and you might possibly find them here in our forum.
 
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