If You're Wondered About Gwent Tracker

[Almaron22]

I just installed the deck tracker a couple of days ago, although I rarely use it. I just thinks its nice, being able to see what cards are in my deck, seeing as I'm switching between decks pretty frequently. I would not say that it gives me an advantage in a sense, other than it's easier than for me to keep track of my decklist separately. I kinda think people are making a bigger deal out of it than it is, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Archpriest]

All card games have an element of RNG, yes. With good card games, RNG doesn't define whether you'll win or lose. However, it does increase or decrease your chances of winning.

Comparing Gwent with poker is a bad example because in poker everyone plays from the same deck. And also because, even with the shittiest cards, you can bluff your way out of most situations (unless the opponent(s) have really good cards). In Gwent the playing field is rarely even. You'll have to navigate through all the pitfalls and knowing your opponent's tactic does help a lot. But at the end of the day, if you don't draw the cards you'll need, you might not be able to overcome the sheer amount of power.

In short: having skills doesn't fully compensate for bad RNG, but it does help a lot.

Poker is math, plain and simple. Let's not continue this because it really is pointless to argue with someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

 

[DMaster2]

Poker is math, plain and simple. Let's not continue this because it really is pointless to argue with someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

Poker is math and skill but also luck. If i raise with AA and i get a re-raise from a KK and in the end we go all-in because we both push, there is nothing i can do if a K get revealed on the board, i lose. So yeah skill is very important in poker but luck can't be ignored either.

 

[lomvicmarko]

I just installed the deck tracker a couple of days ago, although I rarely use it. I just thinks its nice, being able to see what cards are in my deck, seeing as I'm switching between decks pretty frequently. I would not say that it gives me an advantage in a sense, other than it's easier than for me to keep track of my decklist separately. I kinda think people are making a bigger deal out of it than it is, but maybe that's just me.

Poker is math and skill but also luck. If i raise with AA and i get a re-raise from a KK and in the end we go all-in because we both push, there is nothing i can do if a K get revealed on the board, i lose. So yeah skill is very important in poker but luck can't be ignored either.

Yes people make to big of a deal out of it, it gives comfort not advantage anyone can learn their deck and calculations in just few matches. So i don't understand this crying.

 

[Archpriest]

Poker is math and skill but also luck. If i raise with AA and i get a re-raise from a KK and in the end we go all-in because we both push, there is nothing i can do if a K get revealed on the board, i lose. So yeah skill is very important in poker but luck can't be ignored either.

The "luck" part is there for sure. Nowhere near the description in the movies and, apparently, people's perceprtion. Bluffing even more-so.
But you presented a fringe case, the chances of AA going against KK are exactly 0.48%. Less than a half %. In cash games, AA's value isn't that high at all.

Yes people make to big of a deal out of it, it gives comfort not advantage anyone can learn their deck and calculations in just few matches. So i don't understand this crying.

Apparently people need crutches to do basic things. Next thing they will need Gwent player to make decisions for them too... Crying my arse.

In short, I don't care if someone uses tracker. I do however know that he has less skills than player of the same win % who doesn't. Good thing CDPR think the same way. That's it.

 

[DMaster2]

In cash games, AA's value isn't that high at all.

In pre-flop with two players going all-in? It's the best hand you can get.

 

[Archpriest]

In pre-flop with two players going all-in? It's the best hand you can get.

And how many times will you get that? I'll give you the exact figures again - 0.45%.

 

[DMaster2]

And how many times will you get that? I'll give you the exact figures again - 0.45%.

I was just pointing out at an example of a player playing his hand correctly and getting busted at the showdown. It can be said for any hand, AK vs KQ, JJ vs 10/10, etc...

 

[Archpriest]

I was just pointing out at an example of a player playing his hand correctly and getting busted at the showdown. It can be said for any hand, AK vs KQ, JJ vs 10/10, etc...

Fair enough. But you are making my point for me: playing his hand correctly. Mike Caro wrote a book based solely on this. A poker book.

Cheers

 

[RickMelethron]

Well no sheet man, how would i do without tips like this one...

you are the one who seems to have a problem tracking which cards were played...

 

[RickMelethron]

Apparently people need crutches to do basic things. Next thing they will need Gwent player to make decisions for them too... Crying my arse.

this is why schools should implement mandatory dark souls playthroughs...

 

[DMaster2]

you are the one who seems to have a problem tracking which cards were played...

I don't have problems tracking them, it's simply not worth the effort when there is a tracker available.
For me it's like starting a campfire with the sun and a glass when you have a lighter in your pocket.

 

[Redcoat2012]

To all those that think the tracker should be banned - do bare in mind that there is nothing stopping someone from using a pen and paper, all the in match benefits the tracker provides a notepad would do too, CDPR ought too just work these features into the game.

 

[Archpriest]

To all those that think the tracker should be banned - do bare in mind that there is nothing stopping someone from using a pen and paper, all the in match benefits the tracker provides a notepad would do too, CDPR ought too just work these features into the game.

And that takes time and effort. Making it an acquired skill.

 

[Redcoat2012]

And that takes time and effort. Making it an acquired skill.

That is not a skill, its a habit.

 

[Riven-Twain]

Moderator: That's enough of that, thank you. One post deleted, another edited. Back on topic, please, and leave off the insults.

 

[Archpriest]

That is not a skill, its a habit.

Hmm... let's see:


skill
skil/
noun
noun: skill

• the ability to do something well; expertise.
  "difficult work, taking great skill"

  synonyms:

  expertise, skillfulness, expertness, adeptness, adroitness, deftness, dexterity, ability, prowess, mastery, competence, capability, aptitude, artistry, virtuosity, talent "his skill as a politician"

  antonyms:

  incompetence

  • a particular ability.
    plural noun: skills
    "the basic skills of cooking"

    synonyms:

    ability, strength, gift; skill set "parenting was his greatest skill"

hab·it
ˈhabət/
noun
noun: habit; plural noun: habits

• 1.
  a settled or regular tendency or practice, especially one that is hard to give up.
  "this can develop into a bad habit"

  synonyms:

  custom, practice, routine, wont, pattern, convention, way, norm, tradition, matter of course, rule, usage More "it was his habit to go for a run every morning" mannerism, way, quirk, foible, trick, trait, idiosyncrasy, peculiarity, singularity, oddity, eccentricity, feature; tendency, propensity, inclination, bent, proclivity, disposition, predisposition "her many irritating habits" accustomed to, used to, given to, wont to, inclined to "they were in the habit of phoning each other daily"

  • informal
    an addictive practice, especially one of taking drugs.
    "a cocaine habit"

    synonyms:

    addiction, dependence, dependency, craving, fixation, compulsion, obsession, weakness; informalmonkey on one's back "his cocaine habit"

  • Psychology
    an automatic reaction to a specific situation.
  • general shape or mode of growth, especially of a plant or a mineral.
    "a shrub of spreading habit"
• 2.
  a long, loose garment worn by a member of a religious order or congregation.
  • short for riding habit.
  • archaic
    dress; attire.

    synonyms:

    garment(s), dress, garb, clothes, clothing, attire, outfit, costume; More informalgear; formalapparel "a monk's habit"

• 3.
  archaic
  a person's bodily condition or constitution.
  "a victim to a consumptive habit"

verb archaic

past participle: habited; verb: habit; 3rd person present: habits; gerund or present participle: habitting; past tense: habitted; past participle: habitted

• 1.
  dress; clothe.

So it is a skill...

 

[Redcoat2012]

"the ability to do something well; expertise."

You yourself, that it takes "time and effort" and somehow believe that this means it is a 'skill'. Time and effort does not equate to skill, you could do something a 1000 times and never get good at it, at that point its just a habit.

 

[Archpriest]

"the ability to do something well; expertise."

You yourself, that it takes "time and effort" and somehow believe that this means it is a 'skill'. Time and effort does not equate to skill, you could do something a 1000 times and never get good at it, at that point its just a habit.

I wrote "an acquired skill'. After you learned and practiced, it comes easily to you, like any other skill.

 

[Redcoat2012]

I wrote "an acquired skill'. After you learned and practiced, it comes easily to you, like any other skill.

That just is not true. I knew a guy with over 3 thousand games of LoLs worth of practice, thousands of hours, never got out of bronze. Some players play a couple hundred hours and they are in the high elo's, skill comes from talent not perseverance.