I'm I the only one who is mildly skeptical with CDProjekt's claims about TW3?

[iisvloi]

I'm I the only one who is mildly skeptical with CDProjekt's claims about TW3?

Please don't get me wrong, I'm very ambitious about The Witcher 3 and I have no doubts about CDProjekt's abilities as a game developer. But some of the claims they make about TW3 just seem a little too big for me to be completely sold on having the promises they make.

CDProjekt claims that the open world of TW3 will be 20% bigger then Skyrim's yet the game doesn't contain loading screens. I mean I'm almost positive that there will be interior locales like inns or caves and maybe the new engine will be able to bring you into the smaller area without a lot of loading time, but when you have to reenter the main world the game has got to reload all that space and information right? Plus if they are right and the graphics engine isn't even complete at the time of those screenshots we saw in the game informer (Which looked very well done for any current gen title, if you ask me) then the finished graphics engine will produce some truly epic detail, but will require a lot of loading time. Now I understand that this is a next-gen game, but I just can pull myself to believe that we can have that much information in a game and not have at least some loading time involved.



Take into account that the above screen isn't finished graphically. Do you really think that a world bigger then skyrim can have this much detail or more and have no loading screens involved in the game?

 

[gibb_geralt]

I'm definitely skeptical. I won't be convinced until i actually see it.

 

[frynse]

Mildly skeptical? No definitely not, if experience has taught me anything it's that any pre-release information given out about a game, especially so long before release, should be taken with a grain of salt. I trust CDPR more than your typical dev but I still think one shouldn't take everything at face value.
I'd rather be unexpectedly surprised with certain aspects, than hype myself unreasonably with my expectations.

 

[sidspyker]

I am, I want Witcher 3 to be great and everything they've said so far sounds great but I can't shake off the feeling that "What if it under-performs?"
I don't want W3 to fail so I'm hoping that is not the case.

Usually if the company knows their game is not going to deliver they start marketing like mad - trailer overdose, commercials etc. And while they haven't done the same, as far as I know W3 is getting more coverage than the previous titles so it kinda worries me, not saying they're the ones doing it but I feel very shaky about it.

 

[GuyNwah]

It's a claim that can only be proven by delivering what they say they will deliver.

As to whether it's possible, yes, it is. Not on low-end hardware, but on hardware good enough to do substantial disk I/O in the background. So long as you can run in the foreground and load resources in the background, and be smart about the resources you load so that whichever way Geralt turns, you're ready for him, it's very possible.

But somebody is bound to complain that he gets loading screens on an Athlon 64x2 with an IDE disk and a 2GB HD 5570

 

[iisvloi]

Mildly skeptical?

Perhaps I should have used the word incredibly, That would have been more accurate to my level of skepticism.

 

[Agent_Blue]

Please don't get me wrong, I'm very ambitious about The Witcher 3 and I have no doubts about CDProjekt's abilities as a game developer. But some of the claims they make about TW3 just seem a little too big for me to be completely sold on having the promises they make.

CDProjekt claims that the open world of TW3 will be 20% bigger then Skyrim's yet the game doesn't contain loading screens. I mean I'm almost positive that there will be interior locales like inns or caves and maybe the new engine will be able to bring you into the smaller area without a lot of loading time, but when you have to reenter the main world the game has got to reload all that space and information right? Plus if they are right and the graphics engine isn't even complete at the time of those screenshots we saw in the game informer (Which looked very well done for any current gen title, if you ask me) then the finished graphics engine will produce some truly epic detail, but will require a lot loading time. Now I understand that this is a next-gen game, but I just can pull myself to believe that we can have that much information in a game and not have at least some loading time involved.



Take into acount that the above screen isn't finished graphically. Do you really think that a world bigger the skyrim can have this much detail or more and have no loading screens involved in the game?

Well. Let me put it this way.

There are theists and atheists - with regard to the belief in a deity.
There are agnostics and gnostics - with regard to the ability to know whether a god exists or not.

As of now, when it comes to TW3 and its ability to ditch loading screens in such a vast open world, I'm an agnostic theist.

I have no way of knowing whether such claim holds any water but I believe it.

A matter of faith, really.

 

[iisvloi]

Well. Let me put it this way.

There are theists and atheists - with regards to the belief in a deity.
There are agnostics and gnostics - with regards to the ability to know whether a god exists or not.

As of now, when it comes to TW3 and its ability to ditch loading screens in such a vast open world, I'm an agnostic theist.

I have no way of knowing whether such claim holds any water but I believe it.

A matter of faith, really.

well in that state of mind, I'm personally an agnostic athiest, I don't think it exists, but it might if the right technology is made, I just doubt that a reworked REDengine is what it takes to deliver on such promises

Oh, and sorry for the screenshot not working, it's that picture of the shoreline with Geralt riding roach in the foreground

 

[Agent_Blue]

well in that state of mind, I'm personally a agnostic athiest, I don't think it exists, but it might if the right technology is made, I just doubt that a reworked REDengine is what it takes to deliver on such promises

Oh, and sorry for the screenshot not working, it's that picture of the shoreline with Geralt riding roach in the foreground

Note that I find a dose of scepticism quite healthy. But given CDProjekt's track record, I'll go with my gut feeling and suspend my disbelief, so to speak.

Personally, I have every intent of holding CDProjekt to their promise, including this:

Stunning Visuals

The best-looking RPG to date, competing with games in other genres in which the standard of visuals has traditionally been superior.

I'll be waiting for my fix of near-CGI Geralt's roamings.

 

[iisvloi]

Note that I find a dose of scepticism quite healthy. But given CDProjekt's track record, I'll go with my gut feeling and suspend my disbelief, so to speak.

Personally, I have every intent of holding CDProjekt to their promise, including this:



I'll be waiting for my fix of near-CGI Geralt-ies.

While I find going with your gut and having a level of optimism commendable, I can't pull myself to the same belief until I see some honest to goodness gameplay. It's just me.

 

[goopit]

even if they don't deliver on all their promises it'd still be pretty great

I'd still eat up another W2 rehash as W3 and I'd be satisfied.

 

[Agent_Blue]

While I find going with your gut and having a level of optimism commendable, I can't pull myself to the same belief until I see some honest to goodness gameplay. It's just me.

Sure, I can understand that.

We might get some at E3. Stay tuned.

 

[tommy5761]

I reflect and see what they achieved with Witcher 2 loading screens which were very minimal and well accepted . I mean the technology can only get better with time and maybe they can finish with what they started with Witcher 2 . Time will tell and no I am not skeptical or worried about it .

 

[Agent_Blue]

even if they don't deliver on all their promises it'd still be pretty great

I'd still eat up another W2 rehash as W3 and I'd be satisfied.

Well, sure, I can relate to that. You deem TW2 so good you'd be willing to have another go at it, even if rehashed. Quite understandable.

The problem though I see with that attitude is that it might help foster Dev complacency. And complacency might be the demise of CDProjekt in the long run.

We don't want that and I'm confident it shan't happen either.

 

[iisvloi]

I reflect and see what they achieved with Witcher 2 loading screens which were very minimal and well accepted . I mean the technology can only get better with time and maybe they can finish with what they started with Witcher 2 . Time will tell and no I am not skeptical or worried about it .

Yea, In the PC version maybe. But I played the Xbox version of TW2 which had a twenty-to-thirty second long loading screen every time I entered/exited the Flotsam Inn without installing it. (My Xbox memory was cluttered at the time and I couldn't install the game)

 

[wichat]

I'm an agnostic till I can remember (I always doubt of existence of Los reyes magos (the three wise men ) or Papa Noël (Santa Claus)

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And because of my agnostism I believe in CDPR word. You can tell that is absolutly paradoxical but my whoe life has been a paradox />

 

[tommy5761]

Yea, In the PC version maybe. But I played the Xbox version of TW2 which had a twenty-to-thirty second long loading screen every time I entered/exited the Flotsam Inn without installing it. (My Xbox memory was cluttered at the and I couldn't install the game)

At that point I would be skeptical somewhat . But witcher 3 will be next gen which I think will have 8 GB of memory and more like a PC . So maybe by then they will have worked out the limitations .

 

[Kindo.824]

I am not skeptical. It's one of the few - very few - developers in whom I feel comfortable placing a near-complete trust.

 

[Wazhai]

To be honest, I'm not so concerned about the aformentioned technical stuff such as loading screens, graphical fidelity and the like.

What I'm mildly, to say the least, skeptical about, is their ability to deliver on game content successfully. They've promised a huge, interesting, rich and detailed world filled with unique quests which have a meaningful impact on the world. For most people, TW1 had 40-50 hours of content, TW2 had 25-35, and it was mostly quality content. Now they've promised a 50 hour main quest along with an additional 50 hours of side quests. This is a huge step up from what they've done previously and what concerns me most is how they are going to pull off making so much interesting content.

I would be totally fine if the game had 40-50 hours of excellent content (1/3 to 1/2 of that being the main quest) than 100 of mediocre content. I'd actually take that over what CDPR has promised so far. Not to mention that a lot of people won't have enough time to finish even the 50 hour main quest within a reasonable amount of time, and others would just get bored and abandon it if it is needlessly long-winded.

 

[Aditya]

I am not skeptical. It's one of the few - very few - developers in whom I feel comfortable placing a near-complete trust.

I'm with you on this brother. It's natural to have skepticism based on what CDP has said for TW3, but having been a fan for years and seeing how well they treat their projects and fans, I have no doubt in my mind. I barely got 2-5 sec loading screen on TW2, and honestly how would it matter even if that isn't achieved. A 5 sec load seems okay, we aren't talking 5 min. And beside with high end PCs it might be possible, can't argue if you are running on a low end one or the next gen consoles which time will tell how they turn out to be