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Pey27

Pey27

Forum regular
#1
Feb 9, 2011
I'm not going to buy TW2 because ______.

First of all, we PC gamers hate this DLC crap and I was shocked when I heard CD Project was following the DLC derp trend. Seriously, DLC -and achivements- are the worst thing that could ever happen to gaming and it´s all due to consoles and money.I had hopes for CD Project as a true PC developer, but those hopes were crushed when I saw the different DLC options to buy from at several retailers. What bothers me the most is that these DLCs seem actually pretty good, mostly the finishing moves and the different suits that gives you additional stats. I´m "okay" with having DLCs with fancy suits as long as they´re for appearances only, but deprive witcher fans from useful content is just wrong. Why can CD Project just release all content for all version (retail or digital) and add other sort of stuff for the collectors edition (posters, action figures, whatever)?I´m pretty sure this content will be "available" one way or another, but that´s not the point. For instance I live in Argentina and any retail -let alone CE- is out of my reach for currency and shipping costs, but even if I could buy it, i´d be getting one out of six DLCs available from different shops. To sum up, is this what PC gamers want from one of the last remaining PC devs? I sure don´t.Cheers
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#2
Feb 9, 2011
We've already had this DLC discussion awhile back... but nope, I'm not afraid of CDPR ruining a good game with DLC. They've already said that if they do release more DLC after the game is out it's going to be something major (along the lines of a full expansion), not just stupid crap like a few weapons or 10 minutes of gameplay. Tomasz Gop said he hates that sort of DLC and when he pays for DLC he wants his money worth. The devs are all gamers themselves and don't intend on ripping their fans off (at least not according to what they've currently said). And I tend to believe them when they say this because they didn't rip us off with the TW1 EE. They gave it to us free. So until they prove otherwise I'm not going to worry about it.EDIT: and if you dislike the current (and rather minor) DLC bonuses they're giving to certain retailers that's fine. Don't buy the game. But please people... Stop making a million new threads on why you're not going to buy the game. Lately this forum has been flooded with such posts and they're really not necessary. It'd be nice if all such threads were combined into a single thread. That way everyone who isn't going to buy the game can all discuss it amongst themselves without talking about it in 20 different threads.
 
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Orochi82.186

Senior user
#3
Feb 9, 2011
Hmmmmm... What's the price difference between digital version and retail version ??Anyways.. This is the only thread I see here in GD about this subject. I don't see 20 threads.
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#4
Feb 9, 2011
I think if you preorder from GOG.com (digital version) you save $5.
 
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Orochi82.186

Senior user
#5
Feb 9, 2011
So, the price is the same ?? And Retail version gets additional content ?? Why ??Is there any reason for this ??
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#6
Feb 9, 2011
Orochi82 said:
So, the price is the same ?? And Retail version gets additional content ?? Why ??
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They offered small DLC bonuses to different retailers to make it appealing to buy from that retailer. Really, all of the DLC bonuses they've given aren't game-breakers. You'll enjoy the game just as much playing without any of them. So I'm not sure what the big fuss is. If they were to say, for example, that you were capped at level 10 unless you had a certain DLC that allowed you to get to level 40 then that would be a game-breaker.And GOG.com did offer bonuses if you bought from them (free game and some other goodies), just not DLC.
 
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Orochi82.186

Senior user
#7
Feb 9, 2011
I'm not really worried about the additional clothes. But, exclusive finishing moves ?? That's weird. oO Yeah, I pre-ordered from Gog.
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#8
Feb 9, 2011
Orochi82 said:
I'm not really worried about the additional clothes. But, exclusive finishing moves ?? That's weird. oO Yeah, I pre-ordered from Gog.
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Well, finishing moves make people say "my version of the game is unique because only this version has these 2 extra finishers!!!". I'm glad they made the DLC unimportant things like finishers and a jacket that boosts your sword skills because these are things that don't take anything away from your gameplay experience if you don't have them. These are exactly the type of things companies should give out at no extra cost if they're going to do DLC at all. Little bonuses that won't cripple a game if you don't have them.
 
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JayShadow

Senior user
#9
Feb 9, 2011
Orochi82 said:
I'm not really worried about the additional clothes. But, exclusive finishing moves ?? That's weird. oO Yeah, I pre-ordered from Gog.
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The finishing moves are moves there were gonna cut from the game, so they're probably not as good as the ones that are in the regular game.
 
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Fayth

Senior user
#10
Feb 9, 2011
It's kind of irrelevant how useful any of the DLC is. There are plenty of people out there who, at least for their favorite games/franchises, want to collect everything they can. Making it so that these people are missing out as soon as they purchase the game is silly, which is why this practice is frowned upon. Its a cheap marketing tactic that is extremely distasteful. I am not one of those completionists, and I could care less about the little bonuses, but I find the practice to be absurd and unjustified.
 
wisielec

wisielec

Forum veteran
#11
Feb 9, 2011
How many times do we have to repeat this fucking subject? And people still dont get it do they?These minor dlcs are made with distributors in mind. Not the players directly. That is business issue not some content cut from the game...CDP: we have additional dlcs with different retailersGAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!CDP: ok, lets do it, make them happy. But we did other dlcs, different for every retailer!GAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!CDP: ok, lets do it, make them happy, both lines of dlcs added to the game. But we did other dlcs, different for every retailer!GAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!get the fucking picture?Whatever they come up with there will be voices shouting "cut content from the game! We want it nau!".Some people...
 
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Kaldurenik

Senior user
#12
Feb 10, 2011
Tbh in this case i would have been more happy if they did minor things or "skins" for armors or something... Instead of animations, complete armors with stats and so on. But each to their own yes?
 
wisielec

wisielec

Forum veteran
#13
Feb 10, 2011
Kaldurenik said:
Tbh in this case i would have been more happy if they did minor things or "skins" for armors or something... Instead of animations, complete armors with stats and so on. But each to their own yes?
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Ah, but it has to have some intencive to buy from that retailer which offer said dlc, yes. Once again, its business. Skins for armour wont cut it with retailer. Would you offer a game with that kind of dlc and plan advertisements/marketing based on it?End of subject.For me that is.:)
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#14
Feb 10, 2011
Not going to buy TW2 for whatever reason? Well, this thread is for you! Feel free to discuss why you're not going to buy TW2 in this thread. Please keep "I'm not going to buy TW2" comments out of other threads and don't create more threads about this topic. Enjoy!
 
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netopier

Senior user
#15
Feb 10, 2011
freakie1one said:
Not going to buy TW2 for whatever reason? Well, this thread is for you! Feel free to discuss why you're not going to buy TW2 in this thread. Please keep "I'm not going to buy TW2" comments out of other threads and don't create more threads about this topic. Enjoy!
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Wonderfull!I'm glad you made this thread. Now lets see if it works.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#16
Feb 10, 2011
Ok, here goes.I may still buy TW2. Please understand I have a strong attachment to TW1 that compels me to scrutinize each new thing they've implemented in TW2. Some things don't need much scrutiny: QTE's, console interface, cut-way finishing moves, blood splattering on the screen - I hate these things, with a passion. I would perhaps hate them less in a mainstream game, but TW1 epitomized the very opposite of mainstream and it's sad to see CD red adopt them. The Witcher for me is like experiencing a fine foreign film, and I want all vestiges of the familiar, of the cliche, out of it. Sorry if I have these expectations; they were only set by playing the first game, after all.Having said this, I should apologize for my dismissive remark to MM360. It was uncalled for, and he's a good mod.Still have no love for consoles.
 
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username_2090361

Senior user
#17
Feb 10, 2011
I'm still not sure if I'm going to buy TW2. Here are my reasons:First one: the requirements are too high. I'm not sure if my 9600m GT can handle this game, even if the rest of my rig is quite fine. Hopefully in the FAQ it is written that the requirements should drop a little bit by the game's release, so there something to hope for.Secondly: the animations. The animations were so-so in TW1. I thought it would be fixed with the new engine, but Geralt still have the same lame running animation. Moreover, the spectacular sword attacks seems to have been replaced by very conventional slashes and chops. I guess it's because we have only seen the first levels of sword attacks, so let's hope Geralt will get some new kick-ass moves during the game or it's going to be disapointing. Cheers!
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#18
Feb 10, 2011
@slimgrin: I understand where you are coming from, my friend ;) If you were to ask anyone who knows me I'm always saying I hate when any type of media (movies, games, music) is corrupted by conforming to the mainstream. In fact, some of those people even accuse me of being an elitest because of my strong views on this topic. I simply love creativity and art and hate to see it ruined by conformity.However, I still try to keep an open mind. I see that they've adopted many ideas from other games for TW2; some good, some questionable. But what is most important (to me at least) is that they haven't gotten rid of what I enjoyed most about TW1. They've kept the deep, morally gray game world where everything isn't right or wrong, black or white and they still have a deep storyline. What other games have this? Most other games seem to be based around a child's maturity level with a very basic story and simplistic game world where everything is either good or bad. If TW2 keeps the same depth the first game had then that still makes it unique and a work of art ;)
 
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Seeker.217

Ex-moderator
#19
Feb 10, 2011
@ slimgrin Just want to point out that MM360 is not a MOD he is Red that full under admin MODs are Blue *winks*
 
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Orochi82.186

Senior user
#20
Feb 10, 2011
wisielec said:
How many times do we have to repeat this ****** subject? And people still dont get it do they?These minor dlcs are made with distributors in mind. Not the players directly. That is business issue not some content cut from the game...CDP: we have additional dlcs with different retailersGAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!CDP: ok, lets do it, make them happy. But we did other dlcs, different for every retailer!GAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!CDP: ok, lets do it, make them happy, both lines of dlcs added to the game. But we did other dlcs, different for every retailer!GAMERS: F! YOU, we want the cut content with every copy of the game!get the ****** picture?Whatever they come up with there will be voices shouting "cut content from the game! We want it nau!".Some people...
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Funny.... I don't remember anyone complaining in The Witcher 1.......... Oh yeah.... That was because there were even FREE content. Ahhhhh! Good old times.
 
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