Imlerith: Sabbath

[JawsLoanCompany]

He definitely punishes selfish decks which don't interact much with your opponent. If you don't have an answer then you've likely lost the round. That said, he shouldn't win you the match all on his own. I strongly suggest he be "Doomed" or some other limitation. How about he be automatically locked if he has 5 armor? This would give an opponent another way to turn him "off".

 

[pie_ka]

I like the design of Sabbath but it’s boring that I face him in more than 1/4 of my matches past few days. I know that the faction challenge might have something to do with this But most of these matches feel like I’m wasting my time, because they usually end in insta-forfeit when I use mandrake etc. Which doesn’t feel as playing a good game to me. Maybe a doomed tag (suggested several times in this thread) could help. It would be nice if people need to bet on more win-conditions and couldn’t solely rely on the Sabbath-> adrenaline rush sabbath -> renew sabbath sequence

 

[psysteel]

Stand and fight! Or cry and concede.
Cool card. Love it.

 

[TheEpicWhale]

That's the biggest problem with this card.

Cool to play if it works.

Extremely dull to fight against if you have a bad hand.

 

[Khreygond]

yup. Oddly enough, When I charmed Imlerith: Sabbath with my Miruna, my opponent forfeited

I found this weird enough. Like, if you are not going to play against it, what are you trying to do playing with it? Surely you can see how un-fun it is to play against now, yet you play with that? Since you are using it and trying to Mandrake it and have it rip through my hand, why don't you sit there and let it do the same to yours now that I've charmed it? Oh it's not so good not being able to counter it now huh? what a shame, you had 5 cards left. Almost one third of the game to go You tried to decide it quickly, look how that turned out for you.

 

[TheEpicWhale]

I got him on the first day and loved it right away.

2nd day i quit the deck but still defended him.

Now he is at a point that its just awkward.

Either he is played very bad and it's a bit pathetic.

Or my opponent gets him boosted and then he fights the fight by himself.

I am confinced though that with a small tweak he can be a fun card again.

 

[twinkiegorilla]

Ha. I'm pretty much in the same boat. Loved him on day one. Slid but defended for the next week and a half. Incorporated him in my current deck and climbed back up. Spent the majority of the week sliding and/or treading water and was already planning on tossing him out of the deck tonight. It's a fun card, but not when your opponent drops him and you mandrake it...and then you decide it's time to drop him and your opponent mandrakes him.

The card was so intimidating everybody tech'd against it and now it's a pretty worthless gold.

 

[DustLoopV]

I'm only rank 13 but he's pretty fun imo. Vesemir tutor is hilarious. Literally had someone resign with 8 cards left

 

[Metales1949]

The problem is Sabbath in r3.

 

[Kriegstreiber_KT]

Imlerith: Sabbath Overpowered ? Never ...

 

[Hellsmoke77]

Imlerith: Sabbath Overpowered ? Never ...

Gold weather with Henselt? Looks like the fault lies with your deck, not Sabbath.

 

[twinkiegorilla]

Wouldn't be his deck, right? Also...gotta be careful of scorch. Not smart to leave Sabbath as the highest-boosted card.

 

[FG15-ISH7EG]

If the opponent still has scorch, it could easily be lost, even with a 83 point advantage. Scorch (17) + 4 rounds gold weather(16) + Reinforced Ballista (11) + Henselt on 2 more Baliistas (29) = 73. So the last card needs at least 12 power to win the game, which should be possible.

 

[Kriegstreiber_KT]

Wouldn't be his deck, right? Also...gotta be careful of scorch. Not smart to leave Sabbath as the highest-boosted card.

In Round 1 the enemy boost all his power on my high silver units (supporter for imlerith). In Round 2 he drypassed, so i played Imlerith+mandrake+resilence. In round 3 he burned my imlerith instant, i play my next support cards for imlerith, the immun werewolfes. Now he played the spy, my luck i renew my 11 imlerith. After his weather counter i played my leader and he generates me the mandrake. . Imlerith was on 11 the most time.

 

[twinkiegorilla]

That's good stuff and I've had games like that with him (Mandrake, Mardroeme, Resilience, Renew, etc)...but that's also a lot of lucky moments. I just don't think you can call him overpowered if luck is involved.

 

[Esmer]

Everybody thought that a new Vernon Roche is a badly designed card. But it turns out to be Imlerith: Sabbath.

If your opponent has a counter, then Imlerith is a worse version of Seltkirk.
If the opponent doesn't have a counter, Imlerith wins you the game even when you are a few cards down.

In the current meta pretty much everyone has Mandrake, so Imlerith is not a huge deal in constructed. But the card can simply destroy you in the Arena.

 

[Kriegstreiber_KT]

That's good stuff and I've had games like that with him (Mandrake, Mardroeme, Resilience, Renew, etc)...but that's also a lot of lucky moments. I just don't think you can call him overpowered if luck is involved.

You need 5 cards. The problem with a I:S deck comes, if u not draw him . This is only a fun deck from me, all cards in this deck supports only Imlerith. The card is overpowered, but every have counter in decks (scorch, Mandrake, Kayran). No counter luck --- loose ....

 

[Jeydra]

That's good stuff and I've had games like that with him (Mandrake, Mardroeme, Resilience, Renew, etc)...but that's also a lot of lucky moments. I just don't think you can call him overpowered if luck is involved.

Right now the cards to support an all-in Sabbath deck aren't there. More ways to find him (c.f. the handbuff Octvist deck which is loaded with ways to find Octvist) + especially some way to keep him out of Mandrake range would probably make him busted. The other way of building Sabbath decks, using him in a different deck like Deathwish Dagon in place of another gold, is also inconsistent. Sabbath is significantly worse if not given support, but the more support you give him the more you weaken your deck against any deck that can answer him immediately or if you don't draw Sabbath. With Mandrake running at >50% usage rates, small wonder Sabbath isn't seeing much play right now at top levels.

Maybe someday CDPR will make some card that breaks Sabbath. Or maybe they'll change Sabbath before it gets to that point. I'm hoping for the latter.

 

[Hellsmoke77]

Right now the cards to support an all-in Sabbath deck aren't there. More ways to find him (c.f. the handbuff Octvist deck which is loaded with ways to find Octvist) + especially some way to keep him out of Mandrake range would probably make him busted. The other way of building Sabbath decks, using him in a different deck like Deathwish Dagon in place of another gold, is also inconsistent. Sabbath is significantly worse if not given support, but the more support you give him the more you weaken your deck against any deck that can answer him immediately or if you don't draw Sabbath. With Mandrake running at >50% usage rates, small wonder Sabbath isn't seeing much play right now at top levels.

Maybe someday CDPR will make some card that breaks Sabbath. Or maybe they'll change Sabbath before it gets to that point. I'm hoping for the latter.

Nobody even plays Sabbath anymore, haven't seen him in days. He is easily removed and people got tired of losing just as I predicted. If Sabbath was that great I'd be playing him myself as monsters is my main faction, instead I'm playing ST because monsters doesn't cut it. I know "deathwish blah blah" it's not that great trust me. It's okay at best I beat it almost every time.

 

[Jeydra]

Ha, you've gone from beating it every time to beating it almost every time. Still want to play or are you still unhappy about deck trackers?