Immersion Breaking

[Kallelinski]

I think the easter eggs were quite neat, as long it doesn't become a Borderlands 2, where everything and every place is a reference to anything, it's ok.

 

[goopit]

I think the easter eggs were quite neat, as long it doesn't become a Borderlands 2, where everything and every place is a reference to anything, it's ok.

God forbid CDPR starts referencing internet meme's

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maybe the rare ones like "shrek is love shrek is life" would be okay..

 

[hamzanoor]

Only one easter egg caught my eye and that was the "kierkegaard and heidegger" passwords used by zoltan and the elves.

Someone in CDPR enjoys existentialist philosophy (or maybe he is just german).

 

[wichat]

Well, in real life you find some easter eggs in the most common things you do just we do not pay attention enough (and in real life you can not relivethat moment if you lose them). Find someone which make smile for a second is fun. Those one in FO NV seem nice to me...

 

[Randomdrowner2015]

Would it not be great if Geralt said, when answering a question: How should I know, I am just a videogame character! LOL right?.... No didn't think so either.

Now, smaller subtle references that feels like they belong in the world is fine. For example, it would be fine if Geralt once in a while said: "I should go" But the developers should avoid decontextualising stuff.

However this all boils down to expectations. A lot of people does not seem to know that the books contains many of these types of references, so it could be argued that it belongs in the games too. But (however, again)the games are not the books and few people are prepared for these types of references, so when all said and done, I think they, save for the subtitle stuff, should be avoided as it hurts the immersion of the player.

 

[Cs__sz__r]

I think the easter eggs were quite neat, as long it doesn't become a Borderlands 2, where everything and every place is a reference to anything, it's ok.

I don't think we have to worry about that. I thought it was okay in bl2, but man people were up in arms about that.

 

[Kallelinski]

I don't think we have to worry about that. I thought it was okay in bl2, but man people were up in arms about that.

It was okay, because i expected it and the whole game was crazy anyway, so why not? But in a game like The Witcher the references should be subtle and not like "look, look here! Internet meme, funny eh?"

But i don't think CDPR will ever do that anyway, they even reduced the amount of easter eggs from TW1 to TW2, so i think they know what they are doing.

 

[wichat]

It was okay, because i expected it and the whole game was crazy anyway, so why not? But in a game like The Witcher the references should be subtle and not like "look, look here! Internet meme, funny eh?"

But i don't think CDPR will ever do that anyway, they even reduced the amount of easter eggs from TW1 to TW2, so i think they know what they are doing.

In an open-world? Anything can happens /> if it not disturb the main plot and is presented as a subtler wink

 

[Rudlee]

My opinion is that they shouldn't have any easter eggs/references, or if they do, make them very subtle, because, if you already have your own stuff you could implement as a neat eye candy/reference, why take things from outside of the Witcher universe?

 

[Cs__sz__r]

It was okay, because i expected it and the whole game was crazy anyway, so why not? But in a game like The Witcher the references should be subtle and not like "look, look here! Internet meme, funny eh?"

But i don't think CDPR will ever do that anyway, they even reduced the amount of easter eggs from TW1 to TW2, so i think they know what they are doing.

It should be fine, and to me at least, the references in Tw1 were a lot more subtle than 2(excluding Lotr reference).

On note of bl2 I did not expect them to be so meme based but eh its Borderlands.

 

[Garsun]

To understand why there are so many easter eggs and references to other literature and folklore, you have to read the first two books. They are a collection of short stories, and in some of them, even the main plot is a dark parody or darker version of the well known story (Snow White, Snow Queen, etc.)

The only easter egg I thought was out of place was the AC one.

 

[cmdr_silverbolt]

I hate asking for them to put restrictions on their creativity and humor. Whatever happens in the next game, it should just work in the context, then it won't be immersion breaking.

 

[Garrison72]

I don't think any of the easter eggs were out of place. Saying they should only come from certain sources defeats the purpose of what an easter egg is. The lotr one made me laugh for how blatant it was. So bring em' on, I say.

 

[Garsun]

Not because of the source, I laughed at the ee itself, but the assassin's model looks pretty bad compared to surroundings.

 

[arkblazer]

Well, to be honest, I do not like it in the books. I remember I started to read The Last Wish (Russian translation) long time ago, and I did not really like this parody vibe. I got over it eventually, but for me it is something that actually detracts from The Witcher series. I am more into dark fantasy, with A Song of Ice and Fire as a paradigm. It's funny, actually - TW2 is a serious game with some funky references, while D2DKS is a more humorous game with very subtle references. I would prefer CDPR to keep them subtle as well, more like a puzzle to figure out.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. Just because a work has some humor it doesn't detract from its dramatic parts. and a work can can be a a dark parody or deconstruction and work as a serious dramatic work.

 

[Mihura]

I found it funny actually, there were other things that I found worse in this department. Easter eggs are always nice to find and I actually laugh at the the LotR references.

 

[Stonewolf.67]

One reference or easter egg is okay. One reference per minute and shoved during the main quests is not.

The part in Folstom forests where Zoltan shouts Kierkegaard as the password and the elf responds with Heidegger was completely out of place and that was the real immersion breaker for me. They might have just aswell shouted Einstein-Newton or Vladimir-Putin. It would be equally embarassing and eyeroll-worthy. What were the writers thinking here?

Also, there are tons of stuff regarding ie. armor that makes no sense in that universe, for example knights wearing crusaders' crowns of thorns on their helmets (bands similar to what Saskia's wearing).

 

[vivaxardas2015]

One reference or easter egg is okay. One reference per minute and shoved during the main quests is not.

The part in Folstom forests where Zoltan shouts Kierkegaard as the password and the elf responds with Heidegger was completely out of place and that was the real immersion breaker for me. They might have just as well shouted Einstein-Newton or Vladimir-Putin. It would be equally embarassing and eyeroll-worthy. What were the writers thinking here?

Also, there are tons of stuff regarding ie. armor that makes no sense in that universe, for example knights wearing crusaders' crowns of thorns on their helmets (bands similar to what Saskia's wearing).

Yes, it is exactly what I was talking about. My first reaction was - holy shit, at least it is not Plato - Socrates. /> Things like this tend to set my teeth on edge. As I understand this concept, Easter egg is something to be discovered, not to be hit over the head with.

 

[harhar]

The 'easter eggs' in W2 were pretty horrible.

 

[duskey]

A friend of mine was looking over my shoulder when the LOTR "reference" came up in Vergen. I felt very ashamed for having praised the game thus far. It's not because it's a LOTR reference or anything, but it just drags on and on. I MIGHT get a small chuckle out of someone referencing a quest involving a ring and a mountain, but that's it. No need to spell it out.

More subtlety is definately required.