DannyGuy With counterproductive stupid Card effects I mean cards in the game, which if you use them at the wrong moment, because for example it is the last card that you can use, that the card effeccts can even turn against yourself, because the game doesn#t differentiate, if the cards's effect would be at the moment harmful for you or not.
Example
Nilfgaard Set.
There you have this mangonel card that can throw spys which destroy all the weakest cards of a line you hat put it on.
then there exists in this deck this card, which can drow spies from the enemy side back to your side ....
Now think on a situation what happens, if that said card is basically the last card you can use, and what happens, when whyever the ebnemy can successfully force you to drow that destructive spy card of the mangonel over to your side, and not the spy that you actually wanted, because whyever some card effects lead first to the destruction of the spy card you wanted to take over, so that a round later the destructive spy reduces some points of your enemy.....leading to your card taking over the destructiver spy to your side and actually destroying this way your own points!!!
and thios freakingly happens so often with this stupid shit card effect, that Ive chosen to immediately discard this crap instanty mostly all the time at the first round, because of this counterproductive backfire effect that this card can have if you play it together with those mangonels.
A situation, that could be simply solved, if the game would differentiate between harmful spies and non harmful spies to allow you to take over only spies that won't harm your own side, if you take them over from the enemy side.
Yes, there exist card decks like the skeliige set, that play also around alot with the self harming and destroying mechanic, but nilfgaard absolutely doesn't do that and as such should also the spies work in only 1 way direction - harmign the enemy and lettign you profit liek the spies being parasites that you want to get rid of quickly and which should harm you if you take them back to your side, regardless of what the effect is.
it should be even the other way around basically.. spy cards with harmful effects should basically BUFF you, if you take them back to you, because they have enemy intel from which you can profit
In case of the mangonel effect the effect shouldnt be a "spy" in my opinion. That effect should count as own neutral card type which shouldn't be affected by anything but weather cards...and those that can move a card around on the lines.
That way it wouldn't happen also anymore, if i use that card with that I can take spies over to my side back ,that I unwantedly have to take my mangonels destructive effects over to me too and basicalyl destroy myself, what is just counterproductive and stupid card design.
All cards in all cards should be designed so that their effects benefit you. If any card in any deck can negetatively backfire on you, then that cards effect needs to get changed. Thats simply what I wanted to say.
I don't belief that anybody here is happy about it, if you suddenly practically defeat yourself with your own cards, only because of some silly cards backfiring on you, because they could'#t differentiate if their effect will be at the moment of anybenefit for you, or not.
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About the post with having like 2 and a half years to play to get a full deck...
2 and a half years is nothing for an online game!!! people play online games like guild wars, wow and co for like over 10 years and don''t complain about that spent time.
Why is that so? Because peopel which play onlione games of any sort, be it now MMORPG, card game, browsergame ect. pp, simply EXPECT from these games, that they entertain them for a long time, that these games provide a certain longevity and that you don't have reached and done everythin in them already in like a a couple of weeks already.
if it would need 2 and a half yrears to play get for completely free 5500 dust to be able to upgrade all cards without having to play a single cent, then this is quite good just to say...
There exist the typical kind of asia grinder mmos out there, which let you basically grind these kind of games theoreticalyl for multiple DECADES of years just to be able to gain everything in these games and become one of the best players due to felt abysmal drop rates for items of like 0,0000000000001% or so and character progression which becomes over time extremely more time taking so more you progress in the game.
Nothing of that is what I suggested here.
The only stupid people I see here are those, who believe that getting everything by just playing the game for free is "Pay to Win" (lol) ,only because of the visually most impressive version of the cards should have a tiny stronger point value of +1.
But thats just the typical usual reation of people, which will be always unable to truly understand the real meaning of "Pay to Win", regardless of how oftenly you try to explain them that, because they are simply too jealous of players which just have more time to play a game and that these players naturally will always have by that difference an advantage over others which can't plays as much in progressive games that are based on the fact that you have them to play alot to progress in them slowly if you want to spent no money on them to quicken your progress to be instantly competitive with the highest ranking players which spent real money to get quicker their decks full with the best cards.
If people truly are so aggressive agaisnt any form of P2W, then tell CDPR to remove from the game the option to buy card kegs for real money.. problem solved. because if nobody can buy cards for real money, then there is also no pay to win possible!! but sadly this won't happen, because thats CDPR's payment model for the games servers currently, so that the game can stay live.. servers and developers don't magically pay themself or work for free!!
Thats why I suggested that CDPR should find other ways to financiate their game and developers instead of havign to buy cards.
There exist alot of other options with that CDPR can make money, it doesn't have to be the cheapest of all sales methods ever - RNG sales where people pay money just to get something RANDOM (this kinds of sales method imo belongs prohibited by law if you ask me!!)
People should pay for things that don't have directly somethign to do with the game's cards, like background music/themes, mechandise articles like a physical form of the gwent game so that you can play gwent if you want also physically at home with your friends and family, hoodies, t-shirts,m plushies and the like, with stuff liek that can you make good money as well without that you have to hold the RNG-carrot in front of your customers to artificially milk us out like cash cows that we are only for them
