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jmcc84

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#21
May 2, 2015
So in a certain point of the game we'll have to choose to side with Nilfgaard or the Northern Kingdoms? Most probably near the end?
 
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Lieste

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#22
May 2, 2015
Nilfgaard over Radovid every. Single. Time.
 
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shawn_kh

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#23
May 2, 2015
Klavi said:
Whoreson, maybe. But at least he wasn't a duck.
Can't say the same about the other rulers, especially Emhyr.
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Ljesnjanin said:
And sisterfucker...
But he had a certain charisma, I admit...
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Foltest was a sisterfucking whoreson that was so incompetent that he had to assemble an army and have a Witcher tag along in order to solve his marriage problems, and Yet he still managed to get his throat slit after all this.

All hail Emhyr, the true emperor :p
 
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Ljesnjanin

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#24
May 2, 2015
shawn_kh said:
All hail Emhyr, the true emperor
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I have a feeling that Geralt is a republican :D
 
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OldRedw

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#25
May 2, 2015
I do not know if this war will come to an end.
But, by the list of achievements we can see that Radovid can be murder and we can support the new monarch of Skellig, may be one of them support Nilfgaard and the other Radovid.

MOD ALERT: The tagged spoiler really IS a spoiler. Be warned if you click on it.
 
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Klavi

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#26
May 2, 2015
shawn_kh said:
All hail Emhyr, the true emperor :p
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Radovid should really just quit at this point. The glorious White Flame is coming in full force and nothing can stop Him, no matter how much you've supported Redania in the previous games.

 
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shawn_kh

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#27
May 2, 2015
Klavi said:
Radovid should really just quit at this point. The glorious White Flame is coming in full force, no matter how much you've supported Redania in the previous games.
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There is always time to repent heathens. Emhyr is a generous and forgiving emperor, well sometimes :)
 
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endtherapture

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#28
May 2, 2015
EliHarel said:
All this talk makes me miss Foltest, no matter how much of a whoreson he was.

Damn nonsense.
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Foltest wasn't the best king but he was the King I'd like to be mates with most. Stennis was an insufferable brat, Henselt was an awful person, you can't trust Radovid but at least you know where you stand with Foltest. I'd buy him a pint.
 
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Eruvadhor

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May 3, 2015
endtherapture said:
I'd buy him a pint.
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& he'd buy you a ballista for your birthday:thumbup:

He knew how to have a good time, and thankfully rubbed off on Roche.

Radovid...at the very least let us see Phil get 'em. Without a cut-scene.
 
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mecha_fish

mecha_fish

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#30
May 3, 2015
tbh i'm still not over foltest's death. like, HOLY SHIT cdpr killed off FOLTEST. gets me everytime. like i read some part with him in the books and think 'you're going to be dead soon and it will be really inconvenient for me'. i do like cdpr's casual attitude for killing of book characters in the name of story. just like 'how interesting would the northern realms be if the player had the opportunity to murder 3/4 monarchs'? i feel like anyone else would somehow try to keep all the book characters alive in fear of retribution from fans, but cpdr's all "NOPE, no one is safe'.

But yeah, Radovid the Stern was one of my favourites in tw1 and he seemed to have developed in tw2, and it looks like we have even more development in tw3. Foltest I think was already a defined character, which is why we always knew where we stood with him, I expect.

GorillaHorse said:
I realize that, but I was rather wondering if Radovid is shaping up to be a king just as 'bad' as Henselt. I always liked him in 1 and 2 because he was unashamedly deceptive and clever, who outmanoeuvres his opponents but also seems like a top lad at the same time. I just find it interesting that the game tells you in the first 5 minutes 'side with Radovid', I had planned to do that anyway but I may change my mind.

Just finished reading the books, I don't understand why people think Emhyr is at all understandable/forgiveable. He's a prick, though Charles Dance may win me over
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He underwent a lot of character development. He's explanation for why he is the way he is made a lot of sense to me. He's fairly reasonable given his position. I suppose we're at the gates of subjectivity, though, and indeed I'm interested to see what Charles Dance brings to the role.
 
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BiggusD1

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#31
May 3, 2015
Foltest had the best lines brothel on fire and so on. I want his ghost yell "vengeance!!" in Vizima
 
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nofingershaha

Senior user
#32
May 3, 2015
Honestly though I never read the books, But I believe the Big Baddies was the people who always went after Ciri. Whether it was The emperor of Nilfgaard, Leo Bonhart, Vilgefortz, and even trans-dimensional Elves. Those were the only issues Geralt never really had to make a moral decision in.

SPOILERS AHEAD from books so stop READING!!!!!

Considering that the Emperor of Nilfgaard is Ciri's real father and wants to have a child with her, siding with nilgaard is'nt a choice if the emperor remains alive.
 
mecha_fish

mecha_fish

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#33
May 3, 2015
nofingershaha said:
SPOILERS AHEAD from books so stop READING!!!!!

Considering that the Emperor of Nilfgaard is Ciri's real father and wants to have a child with her, siding with nilgaard is'nt a choice if the emperor remains alive.
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use [*spoiler][/spoiler] without the asterisk, next time :) I have a feeling in order for the Emhyr's intentions for finding Ciri to make sense to new players, they will tell you straight up that the Emperor is her biological father. Not sure whether they'll bring up the incestual intentions he had last time, though. And I highly doubt he has those intentions a second time round. It would be a pretty weak motive after all that character development in the last two or three books.

I'd say, having read the books, that Leo Bonhart was more like a psychopath who finally met his match more than someone who was actually evil. He was a nemesis to a particular character rather than a nemesis to everyone regardless. Vilgefortz wanted all power and was not in any way a kind man towards his subordinates and the Interdimensional Space Elves were inherently racist and intent on similar things as Vilgefortz. I think that's what makes them evil -- they are fully aware of their wicked deeds and go ahead with them regardless.

The insanity of a monarch doesn't really cut it for me. I don't think Radovid or Henselt would even be remotely comparable to The Mad King from A Song of Ice and Fire. They could be inconvenient, but they certainly aren't about to burn people to death for shi'ggles.
 
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Lieste

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#34
May 3, 2015
mecha_fish said:
use [*spoiler][/spoiler] without the asterisk, next time :) I have a feeling in order for the Emhyr's intentions for finding Ciri to make sense to new players, they will tell you straight up that the Emperor is her biological father. Not sure whether they'll bring up the incestual intentions he had last time, though. And I highly doubt he has those intentions a second time round. It would be a pretty weak motive after all that character development in the last two or three books.

I'd say, having read the books, that Leo Bonhart was more like a psychopath who finally met his match more than someone who was actually evil. He was a nemesis to a particular character rather than a nemesis to everyone regardless. Vilgefortz wanted all power and was not in any way a kind man towards his subordinates and the Interdimensional Space Elves were inherently racist and intent on similar things as Vilgefortz. I think that's what makes them evil -- they are fully aware of their wicked deeds and go ahead with them regardless.

The insanity of a monarch doesn't really cut it for me. I don't think Radovid or Henselt would even be remotely comparable to The Mad King from A Song of Ice and Fire. They could be inconvenient, but they certainly aren't about to burn people to death for shi'ggles.
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Radovid is *all* about burning people just because... sure it 'helps' if you are tainted by (at least) accusations of magical ability, but he is powerful and psychotic. IMO.
Not one to cross. Not reasonable or reasoning. Just hate filled.

I'm not really a fan.
 
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mecha_fish

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#35
May 3, 2015
Lieste said:
Radovid is *all* about burning people just because... sure it 'helps' if you are tainted by (at least) accusations of magical ability, but he is powerful and psychotic. IMO.
Not one to cross. Not reasonable or reasoning. Just hate filled.

I'm not really a fan.
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Well, he is Radovid the Stern. Not the Mad King Radovid. So at least someone out there in tw3 and beyond has faith in his reasons. I can't say I'm a fan of him or Henselt either, but I can see in a medieval setting that what they do makes sense for a monarch. Henselt burned Sabrina Glevissig at the stake -- is he mad too? He's a prick, just as Radovid is and they act in similar ways.
 
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Lieste

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#36
May 3, 2015
Henselt burnt one sorceress who specifically displeased him (by destroying his field army and acting "dishonourably" in battle).

Radovid created a fanatical pseudo religious order to stand against all witches and sorcerers and sorceresses. He later and (optionally) succeeds with a North-wide witch hunt, mainly because he didn't like Philippa. Mad as a box of frogs. If he didn't get his own way, it was only because you persuade him to only hunt down the lodge (which I'd say leaves Triss and Yennefer in a somewhat awkward position... as well as Keira and Fringilla...).
 
mecha_fish

mecha_fish

Rookie
#37
May 3, 2015
Lieste said:
Radovid created a fanatical pseudo religious order to stand against all witches and sorcerers and sorceresses.
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Are you speaking of the Order of the Flaming Rose? I'm 90% certain they existed before Radovid decided they were a good idea. Maybe some of them got to his head, who knows. Sorcerers were always on rough terms with all other monarchs, though. The way I saw it in the books, it was only a matter of time before any kind of witch-hunt starts. I do see what Radovid is doing as making sense at the end of tw2. I think it's too early to say he's properly mad (I'm already thinking of Octavian(Augustus)'s first actions when he came into power in Roman times -- he went and killed everyone who opposed his rule and then remained as probably one of the best emperors Rome ever had and probably wasn't insane) -- I'm going to wait and see what other things he has done. He's certainly not a nice person and has his prejudices. I just think it's a bit early to say he's insane yet.

(Actually, Triss gave him a list of the sorceresses who were the problem -- Phillipa and Sile being at the top of the list. I don't know who else was on there, but I doubt Yennefer or herself were.)
 
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Klavi

Rookie
#38
May 3, 2015
mecha_fish said:
Are you speaking of the Order of the Flaming Rose? I'm 90% certain they existed before Radovid decided they were a good idea. Maybe some of them got to his head, who knows.
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There was a book in W1 that says the Order was created with Dijkstra's help. Not sure if Radovid was involved, but he still took them in after the end of W1 just to bully magic users, as he is known to do.

And I agree about the witch hunts. Sorceresses were getting out of control even in the books. In the games, they literally just went nuts and started fucking up left and right. However, now I wonder who was in Triss's list... can't be her or Yen, since neither were actually involved in the assassinations, not to mention that she wouldn't backstab Yen like that. Muh Metz better not be there either.


Lieste said:
Henselt burnt one sorceress who specifically displeased him (by destroying his field army and acting "dishonourably" in battle).
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She didn't just displease him, she ruined the entire battle. Not only did she deny Henselt Vergen, but she also made a soup out of most of his knights. I believe Glevissig's orders didn't even include actual battle support, much less a meteorite rain.
Henselt had more than enough reasons to burn that cunt. Just like Radovid has enough reasons to burn Phili at the stake. But instead, that bumbling fuck just decided to get spoony (lol).
 
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BiggusD1

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#39
May 3, 2015
All Northern kings are nuts except Meve and Esterad Thyssen of Kovir
 
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Ljesnjanin

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#40
May 3, 2015
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All Northern kings are nuts except Meve and Esterad Thyssen of Kovir
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This.

And I wonder what's going on with Meve...
 
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