The consoles are close enough to PC that making them all is cost effective, smarter, and works. Plenty of other games have done it, with the PC version looking amazing.
So...it's not like it's an either / or situation. The process CAN work.
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So...it's not like it's an either / or situation. The process CAN work.
to be fair, we don't know how they're discussing things over there. maybe there are less fake accounts and unsupported claims being thrown around
Them making only 1 build now to all 3 platforms just proves that they don't have to make 3 separate builds... Xbox and PS4 are very close to each other basically, they could share a build like now, PC could go a different way instead...
Or they could make the PC version and then reduce settings for consoles, as every decent developer does
Well, Consoles holding back PCs once again. What else is new. I am glad that at least the game itself is not a train wreck like Watch Dogs. Hopefully they'll won't do exact same thing with Cyberpunk 2077.
I posted this on the screenshot thread but I believe it has its place here.
After looking at the comparison pictures I think I've found out the main reason behind the downgraded look : parallax (or something similar). Here is an example of what it does :
As you can see it turns a flat texture into something awesome. How do you do that ? Well from my experience it's just a complementary file that comes with the texture and which creates that effect (further explanation : the mesh links to that "parallax" file). So it would be 100% consistent with CDPR announcement that textures are identical to all platforms because parallax is just an additional layer that you can include or not (I'd guess consoles don't have that particular parallax file).
Now give a quick look at this, especially the building on the right, and you'll see that the main difference is texture depth : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=3
On the above picture you can see depth, the building looks awesome and real. On the lower picture the textures are identical but it looks flat and "gamey".
Same goes for the wall on the left here : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=1
If you multiply that parallax effect with all the textures ingame you can have a quite different experience. Of course the lighting is also different and might not be to everybody's taste but that's easily fixable with sweet fx.
Now I'm not sure it's an explanation for grass too but at least it can probably put some light on a few things and the overall downgraded aspect.
And as a final point, a lot of cool effects like volumetric clouds, fire smoke or animal furs come from nvidia (see this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SpPqXdzl7g) so it would explain why it's not on the latest trailers : 1st because consoles are on amd hardware (not nvidia), and 2nd because they want to show the game as it will be played by the majority (parity thing).
Call me an optimistic but overall I believe the vgx trailer look will be mostly achievable, with a few downs here and there probably.
After looking at the comparison pictures I think I've found out the main reason behind the downgraded look : parallax (or something similar). Here is an example of what it does :
As you can see it turns a flat texture into something awesome. How do you do that ? Well from my experience it's just a complementary file that comes with the texture and which creates that effect (further explanation : the mesh links to that "parallax" file). So it would be 100% consistent with CDPR announcement that textures are identical to all platforms because parallax is just an additional layer that you can include or not (I'd guess consoles don't have that particular parallax file).
Now give a quick look at this, especially the building on the right, and you'll see that the main difference is texture depth : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=3
On the above picture you can see depth, the building looks awesome and real. On the lower picture the textures are identical but it looks flat and "gamey".
Same goes for the wall on the left here : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=1
If you multiply that parallax effect with all the textures ingame you can have a quite different experience. Of course the lighting is also different and might not be to everybody's taste but that's easily fixable with sweet fx.
Now I'm not sure it's an explanation for grass too but at least it can probably put some light on a few things and the overall downgraded aspect.
And as a final point, a lot of cool effects like volumetric clouds, fire smoke or animal furs come from nvidia (see this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SpPqXdzl7g) so it would explain why it's not on the latest trailers : 1st because consoles are on amd hardware (not nvidia), and 2nd because they want to show the game as it will be played by the majority (parity thing).
Call me an optimistic but overall I believe the vgx trailer look will be mostly achievable, with a few downs here and there probably.
No, there is a huge downgrade caused by consoles. That is how it "works".
Sounds about right.
Tbh, it was obvious that it was coming the moment the decision to get in bed with console market and then in cahoots with M$ was made. Consoles taint and corrupt everything they touch.We see the dawn of a new Bioware. What a disgrace. What a shame. Shame on you, CDPRoject.Shame on you. You forgot WHO made you the company you are now. But we won't.
Tbh, it was obvious that it was coming the moment the decision to get in bed with console market and then in cahoots with M$ was made. Consoles taint and corrupt everything they touch.We see the dawn of a new Bioware. What a disgrace. What a shame. Shame on you, CDPRoject.Shame on you. You forgot WHO made you the company you are now. But we won't.
STOP DOING THIS TO ME. Every time when someone mentions Thief reboot my heart breaks... Greatest stealth franchise of all time dumbed down for dummies.
The game will sell regardless. This is the world we live in. Sometimes I wish I could do more, but I think it's time for me to stop playing games. I don't accept this.
I agree with you. And even if we can't right of the hat, modders will take the matter in their hands and soon we'll see 4k textures replacements, ENB's with parallax features, volumetric fog etc.I posted this on the screenshot thread but I believe it has its place here.
After looking at the comparison pictures I think I've found out the main reason behind the downgraded look : parallax (or something similar). Here is an example of what it does :
As you can see it turns a flat texture into something awesome. How do you do that ? Well from my experience it's just a complementary file that comes with the texture and which creates that effect (further explanation : the mesh links to that "parallax" file). So it would be 100% consistent with CDPR announcement that textures are identical to all platforms because parallax is just an additional layer that you can include or not (I'd guess consoles don't have that particular parallax file).
Now give a quick look at this, especially the building on the right, and you'll see that the main difference is texture depth : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=3
On the above picture you can see depth, the building looks awesome and real. On the lower picture the textures are identical but it looks flat and "gamey".
Same goes for the wall on the left here : http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/51,96455,17905381.html?i=1
If you multiply that parallax effect with all the textures ingame you can have a quite different experience. Of course the lighting is also different and might not be to everybody's taste but that's easily fixable with sweet fx.
Now I'm not sure it's an explanation for grass too but at least it can probably put some light on a few things and the overall downgraded aspect.
And as a final point, a lot of cool effects like volumetric clouds, fire smoke or animal furs come from nvidia (see this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SpPqXdzl7g) so it would explain why it's not on the latest trailers : 1st because consoles are on amd hardware (not nvidia), and 2nd because they want to show the game as it will be played by the majority (parity thing).
Call me an optimistic but overall I believe the vgx trailer look will be mostly achievable, with a few downs here and there probably.
No, I am not cancelling my pre-order. The Witcher 3 will still be a great game regardless. I just think it is a shame they might have had to downgrade the graphics because of the consoles. I am also a bit upset that they "might" be lying to us about the downgrade.
It is just all the secrecy and PR babble talk that does not make me happy. I will still play the game and enjoy it.
That's not true. There's plenty of games that look incredible despite the scenario you're claiming.
I guess they could, but I wouldn't know. I have no idea what these developments cost individually. Let alone management of these builds. It's surely an endeavour no doubt.
The more I see threats from players (like we PC players did you...we won't forget) ...the more i'm losing faith on gamers as mature class of customers. Figure then they don't take gaming seriously in the society.....seeing these guys as a egotistical, spoiled and unreasonable kids....get your things together...even IF there was a downgrade it's not the end of the world. Quit whining and enjoy the game for what it is.....spoiled brats.
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What's been said, officially, about the 'downgrade"? What was officially stated on the matter?
You don't need to be an insider to notice the game has had changes. Some things improved, some things got worse. The game is still the best looking RPG to date, and probably the best looking open world game. If TW3 does really well CDPR will flourish and we can expect major improvements in their next games, they will have more man power, talent and budget to push the consoles a bit further, and perhaps spend more time on giving PC version more love.
The game looks good, subjectively not as good as it used to in some departments. If the story and gameplay is there, I could not care less. Remember CDPR is not some giant like Ubisoft, and they do not have the resources of Bioware being backed by EA. If TW3 is a major success and GoG grows, they will reach new heights. And imagine what they will be able to accomplish when they become a powerhouse like EAware or Bethesda. When they are already slowly beating them on their own turf.
The game looks good, subjectively not as good as it used to in some departments. If the story and gameplay is there, I could not care less. Remember CDPR is not some giant like Ubisoft, and they do not have the resources of Bioware being backed by EA. If TW3 is a major success and GoG grows, they will reach new heights. And imagine what they will be able to accomplish when they become a powerhouse like EAware or Bethesda. When they are already slowly beating them on their own turf.
Yeah well MY insider says that this was all orchestrated by Ubisoft who sent Damien Monnier in to sabotage the Witcher 3. Think about it... who stands to lose the most if the Witcher 3 becomes the premiere open world game? Ubisoft. Ubisoft is based in France. Damien Monnier is french. Who use to work for Sony? Damien Monnier.
Take off the horse blinders people, the facts don't lie!
Take off the horse blinders people, the facts don't lie!
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