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Interview with Adam Kiciński

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Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

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#81
Feb 2, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
What do you mean didn't plan a better cross platform release?
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Pretty simple - no Linux and OS X versions were planned. It looks like even the REDengine wasn't developed yet. It's a step back from their earlier development, when CDPR released TW2 for OS X, and from the interview it seems to be caused by the limited budget.

Costin said:
Well it was nice to get a reply from a dev...almost never happens here.

I personally find it very annoying how CDPR doesn't really care to post on these forums. Yes I know they keep an eye, but their involvement in talking to the community here is close to nil.
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They post very rarely indeed. But most probably because they aren't allowed to talk about their plans. I got a response from developers just once, when asked about what they used in the OS X version of the TW2, and one of the developers explained that it's a native OpenGL 3.2 core profile release (if I remember correctly).
 
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CostinRaz

Banned
#82
Feb 2, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
Have you been to the Bethesda forum? The devs never, ever post there. It's much better here.
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So because a company does an EVEN worse job then CDPR this is better? Look at Blizzard or Bioware, that's a an acceptable standard.

But most probably because they aren't allowed to talk about their plans.
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It's not just future games they can talk about, but already existing ones as well. Had some very interesting conversations with Jan Bartkowicz on BSN, around the time he was leaving CDPR, about things in TW2
 
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Pajkes

Banned
#83
Feb 2, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
Have you been to the Bethesda forum? The devs never, ever post there. It's much better here.
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THIS.So much this.Never and I literally mean NEVER.

They pretty much DON'T GIVE A DAMN about fans on Bethesda's forum.And if you want to know who is by far the worst head of PR department and guy who couldn't even bother to make special account only for his job is fucking Pete Hines.That guy is the worst PR I have ever seen.And still he helped them to become popular.I guess being rude and douche is quite popular.Like Justin Bieber. -.-

He tweets more about some 4th league football team than about his company's games and that's a week before their release.He deletes all the constuctive tweets and keeps answering to rude and idiotic ones so that he can create this false image how they are poor company and every criticism is just some whiny idiot complaining.

I hate that guy.And the worst part is that he has too much influence on development of their games.Idiot even said no to Todd Howard's proposal of implementing vehicles in Fallout 3.The genius said: It wouldn't sell
:facepalm:

You don't believe me guys? Just watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrfdNJDVpR4

And I agree that more devs posting here would be nice.Perhaps in the future as the release date is coming closer they will open up more for the discussion.
 
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Windhelm_Guard

Forum regular
#84
Feb 2, 2014
It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.
It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.
It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.
It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.
It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.
*dies*
 
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Jack Bauer 24

Rookie
#85
Feb 2, 2014
Costin said:
So because a company does an EVEN worse job then CDPR this is better? Look at Blizzard or Bioware, that's a an acceptable standard.



It's not just future games they can talk about, but already existing ones as well. Had some very interesting conversations with Jan Bartkowicz on BSN, around the time he was leaving CDPR, about things in TW2
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I can't speak on Blizzard because i don't play their games, but when i did go to BSN a few times, i had a much different experience. That place is widely regarded as a cesspool. I can't believe some of the stuff I've seen the mods and devs say and do. The censorship is terrible. BioWare is dead to me. EA have gutted their heart and soul and quite frankly, they don't make good games anymore. DAII sealed the deal.
 
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tmarvolo

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#86
Feb 2, 2014
darcler said:
Couple of days ago a major Polish finance journal interviewed Adam Kiciński about TW3. Since the article is paid content I won't translate it in whole, but just the questions and abstract of answer for each.

(The source can be found here: http://www.parkiet.com/artykul/7,1358556-Produkcja--Wiedzmina-3--szybko-zmierza-do-finalu.html)

THIS IS NOT A TRANSLATION. Only the questions are translated. The answers are only summarized by me.

Dariusz Wolak: Is TW3 ready yet?
Adam Kiciński: You can play through the entire game already, although it obviously still needs some work, performance optimization, polishing graphics and so on. But it looks like it's nearly finished. 3/4 of the whole studio is involved in TW3, the rest working on CP2077. The boxes design is complete. The standard edition will be very rich, the collectors edition will be extraordinary. There will be 12-15 language versions (TW2 had 11, + 3 fan-made). Deals with the biggest retailers (like Gamestop or Amazon) are set, including all the details for presale campaigns.

DW: We only don't know the launch date.
AK: It will be unveiled in the first half of the year.

DW: Usually the date is made public a couple of months before the premiere, giving the time to launch the whole marketing machinery. Does it mean TW3 will be launched in autumn?
AK: Evaded the question.

DW: Do you have all the distribution deals signed?
AK: All the major ones. Couple of others are in the talks (RSA, Brazil). The distribution will be more geographically atomized than TW2 where there was only a couple of large distribution regions, which in turn resulted in some countries within those regions to be somewhat neglected. It should change now. Besides, all the major publishers actively seek the deals, so CDPR can select the best offers. The Chinese marked looks promising, and the Witcher franchise is known there thanks to pirates. There's a tremendous potential in there and CDPR will try to utilize it.

The distributors will only sell TW3 retail boxes, the digital distribution is entirely on CDPR's side. (Profits from a digital sale are two times that of a retail sale.)

DW: So TW3's development goes according to the schedule. What about the budget?
AK: Also looks good. It was a very conservative budget from the start, the whole production is being financed from current incomes and savings. There is also backup in form of a credit line for 40 million PLN (from which 30 million is designated towards game production), but there was no need to put it to use as of yet, and perhaps there won't be in the future.

DW: TW3 will be out for PCs and next-gen consoles. You have no regrets about this decision? The consoles were launched a bit later than expected.
AK: But they sell much better than expected. 4.2 million PS4s and 3 million of XBOs. Target forecasts state 33 million consoles at the end of the year. The decision was right.

DW: Marketing campaign is supposed to cost 25 million USD, more than the production itself. Why so much?
AK: They want that not only RPG fans buy TW3, but the gamers that buy all the blockbusters as well. This means reaching much broader audience. Up till now only a couple of percent of the marketing budget has been spent. The main campaign will start in a few months.

DW: Why CD Projekt publishes board games and comics?
AK: Its a strategy to build the franchise and gather new gamers. There is at least one new idea how to use the Witcher franchise in this year, but it's too early to talk about it.
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So is it too late to ask THE REDS to include a Triss poster with every standard edition of the Game ?
 
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Pajkes

Banned
#87
Feb 2, 2014
Jack Bauer 24 said:
I can't speak on Blizzard because i don't play their games, but when i did go to BSN a few times, i had a much different experience. That place is widely regarded as a cesspool. I can't believe some of the stuff I've seen the mods and devs say and do. The censorship is terrible. BioWare is dead to me. EA have gutted their heart and soul and quite frankly, they don't make good games anymore. DAII sealed the deal.
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Oh man I couldn't possibly agree more with you.Also the same situation is on Rome 2's official forums and lately on TWC too unfortunately.

The only and I mean only (at least from my personal experience) forum which beats previous ones by miles in being full of rabid fanboys,stalinistic moderators and admins is IMO GTA forums especially now GTA V subforum.Oh boy,the amount of crap overthere is mind bongglig.
:facepalm:
 
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daddy300

Mentor
#88
Feb 2, 2014
sidspyker said:
Yeah I get the free marketing part, it's the spawn bikes and cars etc part that really pissed me off.
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I appologies if I wrote something I shouldnt have :) it was ment to be an example. as for letting players do something after 100-200h with the game just doing quest. I should verify better my fault, I was refering to easter eggs. Like finding "delorean" or one of the models from CP2077 found in a cave etc. doesnt mean you have to drive it. maybe when redkit comes out months later. Those ideas were made to bring more "game time life" for witcher and examples that could be used for youtube purposes.

People post funny moments or easter eggs on youtube and no one has to pay them to do so.. some channels might get paid but not all of them.. if videos get viral it will spread. On a funny side.. take a chill pill :)
 
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Sardukhar

Moderator
#89
Feb 2, 2014
I've never had the impression these forums are for the Devs to talk to us, or that offer was ever made. They are a place for the community of fans to chat, generously provided by the Company. They may show up here but that wasn't the offer on the table when I joined up.

Also, because you pay for a product doesn't actually make you a part owner in the business that provided that product. Try that with Ford Motor Company or Shell Oil, for example. Walmart, ha. Huge, very successful business that treat their customers like, well, customers. Not co-owners.

There's a solid argument to be made for maintaining such a relationship both for marketing purposes and even development purposes, but any sense of entitlement would be foolish and in the end, frustrating. I know The Star Wars prequels near killed me, for example. WHY didn't George ask me before greenlighting Jar-jar?! WHYY.
 
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Pajkes

Banned
#90
Feb 2, 2014
saoe said:
I appologies if I wrote something I shouldnt have :) it was ment to be an example. as for letting players do something after 100-200h with the game just doing quest. I should verify better my fault, I was refering to easter eggs. Like finding "delorean" or one of the models from CP2077 found in a cave etc. doesnt mean you have to drive it. maybe when redkit comes out months later. Those ideas were made to bring more "game time life" for witcher and examples that could be used for youtube purposes.

People post funny moments or easter eggs on youtube and no one has to pay them to do so.. some channels might get paid but not all of them.. if videos get viral it will spread. On a funny side.. take a chill pill :)
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Yeah I get what you're trying to say.And I'm sure there are going to be a lot easter eggs in Witcher 3 and funny moments and quests.Like this:

http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/A_Sackful_of_Fluff

And on the other hand why are you so upset?Dude was perfectly calm and just so happen to disagree with your view that Witcher should have Trevor,Minecraft and buged Skyrim's dragons who can't land and are flying backwards (doing moon walk).Also once mod kit is released you can bet there are going to be a lot funny and good mods.

Anyway...telling someone to take chill pill because he disagrees with you is dude soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....worth chilling out.No need for you to get upset. ;)
:huh:


Sardukhar said:
There's a solid argument to be made for maintaining such a relationship both for marketing purposes and even development purposes, but any sense of entitlement would be foolish and in the end, frustrating. I know The Star Wars prequels near killed me, for example. WHY didn't George ask me before greenlighting Jar-jar?! WHYY.
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Well I dunno mate but the only entitlement I see here is with people who feel entitled to say others to not feel entitled.You see what I did there. ;)

Also last time I checked freedom of speech was still applied and using it was called: expressing your feelings and opinions not: entitlement.

Well....I'm not suprised at all with your views since you said that Wall-Mart treats it's customers like customers.Try more like sheep or cattle.And let me not start with their employees.
http://www.econmatters.com/2012/07/is-wal-mart-evil-20-shocking-facts.html

Jeesh I guess some of you have become so accustomed to being treated like mindless and expendable cattle ups I meant customers by EA and others that you see conversation between devs and gamers like blashemy.Ahahah I can only imagine level of your suprise when you go to Kickstarter.

Oh boy.....they actually respond to customers and it's not in the form of offer for newest DLC.Woah!
 
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Sardukhar

Moderator
#91
Feb 2, 2014
Well, a) you don't have freedom of speech on a forum. It's privately owned and controlled. So there's that. b) The setting of a forum is inclusionary for the expressing of opinions, such as mine on entitlement or yours on my entitlement. The subject of my post was the sense of entitlement expressed by those who post along the lines of "I will be upset if a Company doesn't do what I want because I bought a previous product of theirs therefor they owe me now".

I have no issue with posting your opinion, ( hell I have no issue with anything much, really. Except cheese. DAMN YOU FROMAGE), but I do enjoy pointing out that a sense of entitlement over a product isn't very realistic unless you have a share in the production of said product.

Walmart does treat it's customers like customers - if you've ever been on a ranch, see how they actually treat sheep or cattle. I'm no fan of Walmart, but they go to some lengths to make their customers happy. Greeters, sales, including wanted products, excluding products they think aren't wanted....kind of like CDPR. Grin.

I've backed a dozen or more Kickstarters. Some communicate a lot - some very little. I didn't back them so they'd do what I want - I backed them so they'd do what they promised. If they promised frequent updates, great. If not, also fine.

I wonder, if the development budget had been one billion dollars for W3 and the marketing had been 1.25 billion...would people have still been worried? Probably.
 
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darcler

Senior user
#92
Feb 2, 2014
IIRC CDPR stated somewhere they estimated TW2 potential audience, i.e. the people who would like to play (and, obviously, buy) the game, to be much larger than the sales indicated. In other words, there were potentially way more people that would like TW2 in its current form (as the statement was made long after release). I suspect when they are talking about reaching wider audience - they mean precisely that. We might not like it, but all the money big corporations are putting into marketing of their games result in communication channels (media, shops, etc.) to be congested with their messages, not leaving much room for smaller players. It is a fact that many people simply haven't heard about the Witcher series, or if they have, they don't really know anything about the game, and thus prefer to buy games they do know about. I would suspect CDPR targets these people.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#93
Feb 2, 2014
Costin said:
So because a company does an EVEN worse job then CDPR this is better? Look at Blizzard or Bioware, that's a an acceptable standard.



It's not just future games they can talk about, but already existing ones as well. Had some very interesting conversations with Jan Bartkowicz on BSN, around the time he was leaving CDPR, about things in TW2
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It's not in their job description and posting randomly on forums can really back fire. Half of us here are crazy anyway. Well, I am. And Jan just writes about very sophisticated dick jokes now.

:hatsoff:
 
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501105

Forum veteran
#94
Feb 2, 2014
Good lord, what happened here, it seems like a bomb went of.
Ontopic: I remember a time when the devs of Bethesda did still post on their forums with regular bits of information.
The death threats and countless insults when a certain something was not implemented made sure that ended though.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#95
Feb 2, 2014
A post has been deleted. If the person who posted wishes to restate any of the issues he may have with CDPR, he is welcome to do so, but I would like to remind all concerned that we do NOT permit political discussion or personal attacks.
Forum rules are here: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/23532-Forum-Rules-and-Regulations
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#96
Feb 2, 2014
Sardukhar said:
Also, because you pay for a product doesn't actually make you a part owner in the business that provided that product. Try that with Ford Motor Company or Shell Oil, for example. Walmart, ha. Huge, very successful business that treat their customers like, well, customers. Not co-owners.
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Now, I'm not even sure if this is addressed to me for commenting on how I feel about CDPR talking about which audience they wish to target. If so, let me say that I am merely providing my point of view to them, a friendly advice, if you will, as a customer who greatly enjoys their products. I have no illusions about how much weight my opinion has but I still give it because I truly believe that going for that crowd and, more importantly, taking the easy route to please them, i.e. dumbing down the game to make it more accessible, won't result in anything good for CDPR. I post my thoughts not because I feel that RED owes me anything but because I value them a lot and don't want them to go down the route of some other devs. If that's where they want to go, well, there are other talanted developers out there.

If your comment was not addressed to me, then ignore what I've just said.
 
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gregski

gregski

Moderator
#97
Feb 2, 2014
On the other hand "wider audience" doesn't have to mean anything bad. I bet there are still many gamers who could enjoy the Witcher series like we all here do but for some reason missed it. Look at all the forum users who joined after the Xbox release of TW2. Or all those people at other places on the web that keep saying - "I just finished my first playthrough of TW2 and I can't believe how I could have missed it" 3 years after the game's release. Heck, every Witcher 3 thread at NeoGAF is full of people asking if it's worth to get into Witcher series.

Or take my example - I never played any of the Elder Scrolls games - I don't know why, I just never bothered to get into them.

So the question is - which audience are they trying to bring in? Because the market isn't simply split between just 2 groups.
 
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501105

Forum veteran
#98
Feb 2, 2014
gregski said:
On the other hand "wider audience" doesn't have to mean anything bad. I bet there are still many gamers who could enjoy the Witcher series like we all here do but for some reason missed it. Or for no reason at all, like me never even playing any of the Elder Scrolls game - I don't know why, I just never bothered to get into them.

So the question is - which audience are they trying to bring in? Because the market isn't simply split between just 2 groups.
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Well, I know that quite a few of my friends skipped past the Witcher series based on released footage at first but eventually tried the game and loved it.
I imagine that having the change to show gamers what The Witcher series has to offer will draw in a lot more fans, not everyone spends their time on gaming fora/websites after all.
 
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Kinley

Ex-moderator
#99
Feb 2, 2014
gregski said:
So the question is - which audience are they trying to bring in? Because the market isn't simply split between just 2 groups.
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Well it does say in the interview that they are aiming at the people that "buy all the blockbusters", and I think that is the part that made the people who are concerned (including myself) go a bit like "Huh?".
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#100
Feb 2, 2014
"They want that not only RPG fans buy TW3, but the gamers that buy all the blockbusters as well. This means reaching much broader audience"

This doesn't have to be a bad thing, my hope is that CDPR don't go for the easy solution.
 
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