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Iorveth and Saskia [Spoilers]

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GuyNwah

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#181
Dec 2, 2015
Sam2305 said:
Don't think the same. Respect it
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Moderator: Don't like your tone. Cool it. Before your account is adversely affected.
 
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RepHope

Rookie
#182
Dec 2, 2015
Sam2305 said:
Don't think the same. Respect it
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Fine. I give up.

Edit: I'm sorry that you obviously feel cheated, but I'd caution you to not take it personally.
 
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Sam2305

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#183
Dec 2, 2015
GuyNwah said:
Moderator: Don't like your tone. Cool it. Before your account is adversely affected.
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Ok, I'll moderate it. I was asking for respect for my opinions as I do for others. I haven't insult anyone or have said that the opinion of others are bullshit
 
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Toyen

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#184
Dec 2, 2015
At 80 000 views on this thread, I will do another fanart of Iorveth and Saskia : )

Anyways guys, I was trying to download REDkit hoping that I would be able to export models like Vergen(if it can be done) to have some decent setting, but the links to part 4 and 5 are not working.

Are you experiencing these issues as well?
 
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Holgar82

Forum veteran
#185
Dec 2, 2015
Toyen said:
At 80 000 views on this thread, I will do another fanart of Iorveth and Saskia : )

Anyways guys, I was trying to download REDkit hoping that I would be able to export models like Vergen(if it can be done) to have some decent setting, but the links to part 4 and 5 are not working.

Are you experiencing these issues as well?
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I'm making a custom armor for Geralt :D


Anyway i should have all the TW2 files uncooked on my desktop, what do you need? All vergen?
 
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Toyen

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#186
Dec 2, 2015
Yes please! An .obj that contains the Vergen area (with textures) would be much welcome!!!! Probably gonna be big but if you could share it, that would be great!
 
cyberpunkforever

cyberpunkforever

Forum veteran
#187
Dec 2, 2015
Holgar82 said:
I'm making a custom armor for Geralt :D

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is that iorveth's armor?
 
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Holgar82

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#188
Dec 2, 2015
cyberpunkforever said:
is that iorveth's armor?
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Yup, i had to cut the dress because there's too much clipping.


Oh and Toyen, there are hundreds of files :ugh:

I don't know if with Redkit you could export the entire area but here i have a file for every wall, roof, chair etc..

You basically have to rebuild Vergen by hand with these files
 
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Toyen

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#189
Dec 2, 2015
I cannot view it! What is it he is making?
 
cyberpunkforever

cyberpunkforever

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#190
Dec 2, 2015
Toyen said:
I cannot view it! What is it he is making?
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an armor, work in progress it looks like the iorveth's armor

anyway, why can't you open the images?
 
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Toyen

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#191
Dec 2, 2015
No idea really. I click on show spoiler but it does not show me anything.
 
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Holgar82

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#192
Dec 2, 2015
Toyen said:
No idea really. I click on show spoiler but it does not show me anything.
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It still needs a bit of work
View attachment 27925
 
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sv3672

Forum veteran
#193
Dec 3, 2015
RepHope said:
I'm guessing Roche's path was more popular, or had his part finished first which is why he made it into the final game. The idea that CDPR cut Iorveth because he was 2deep4u is quite frankly bullshit.
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It may simply be related to the location (Temeria) and story of the game why Roche was chosen over Iorveth.
 
Shavod

Shavod

Wordrunner
#194
Dec 3, 2015
Sam2305 said:
Iorveth fits helping Nilfgaard against the Northern Kingdoms or helping the non humans of Novigrade once Radovid takes the city. In the main story, almost every character of TW2 could fit perfectly. IMO the reason why Roche is in the game is because the character is more simple than Iorveth. In a game who tries to attract the mainstream public is easier to put a patriot who is fighting for his defeated country than an elf who is fighting for his race and could support both factions or none of it.

IMO is something like that: simple characters=easy to understand=more new players=more money.

Anyway, I think everyone knows my opinion about the game
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OK, for all your love for Iorveth you seem to get all the basic facts about him completely wrong. Iorveth aiding a country who already once used and betrayed Scoia'tael (and used them again in not direct way in Witcher 2) and almost executed him for his loyal duty? Give me a break. He would rather gather the remaining Scoia'tael forces and oppose the Nilfgaard invasion, as he knows there is no way he could count on the Emhyr's mercy.

For me both fight for the freedom of your country and freedom of your people are very basic and easy to follow concepts (and Roche is not any less complex then Iorveth), so that's definitely not a case. It just made more sense for Roche to be there, so when it turned out they were unable to do everything they wanted and needed to cut some things out, they had to make a choice.

(And I still don't get it why anyone expected Iorveth in Toussaint, the Nilfgaard territory, where there is no Scoia'tael, or that they're going to shoehorn him into the expansion story they already came up with before the game release, even if there is absolutely no place for him there, just because some people asked about it.)
 
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Zyvik

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Dec 3, 2015
Ljesnjanin said:
There was something...Long time ago...



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-06-seeing-red-the-story-of-cd-projekt
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They should've released it as an expansion to TW2. I wanted to see Francesca and Isengrim, dammit! :cirisad:
 
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Sam2305

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#196
Dec 3, 2015
Shavod said:
OK, for all your love for Iorveth you seem to get all the basic facts about him completely wrong. Iorveth aiding a country who already once used and betrayed Scoia'tael (and used them again in not direct way in Witcher 2) and almost executed him for his loyal duty? Give me a break. He would rather gather the remaining Scoia'tael forces and oppose the Nilfgaard invasion, as he knows there is no way he could count on the Emhyr's mercy.

For me both fight for the freedom of your country and freedom of your people are very basic and easy to follow concepts (and Roche is not any less complex then Iorveth), so that's definitely not a case. It just made more sense for Roche to be there, so when it turned out they were unable to do everything they wanted and needed to cut some things out, they had to make a choice.

(And I still don't get it why anyone expected Iorveth in Toussaint, the Nilfgaard territory, where there is no Scoia'tael, or that they're going to shoehorn him into the expansion story they already came up with before the game release, even if there is absolutely no place for him there, just because some people asked about it.)
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I know what I'm saying. Using your own words, why Roche is helping Nilfgaard to win a war when is the same country that is butchering his own people? Because is the only option to "free" Temeria (a poor option IMO). If we would had heard this argument before the game was released many of us would had said that is impossible. Roche would never do that. But at the end, that was what CDPR wanted to happen. If this can be done, you can put Iorveth again with Nilfgaard. Reasons? The only way to save his people. Is a silly argument? The same as Roche

As I said, almost every character from TW2 could fit in TW3. And Iorvet fit until he was cut in 2014. Reasons? My assumptions is that Iorveth is a more complex character than Roche and that's why he was removed. In the context of TW3 he could support Nilfgaard, he could keep the fight against humans or he could have left the fight after Vergen was destroyed (which requires explain what was Vergen, something that never happened in TW3) but, on the other hand, after the invasion, Roche is one simpe option: Temeria, Temeria and Temeria.

In the end, the diference between my opinion and your opinion is that we think differently. Probably you thing that TW3 is an awesome game and I think that is a game which betray many of the core values of TW2 in order to attract players. And that's something that everyone can understand, even me, but not putting at least Iorveht just for a quest is too much. And I think we can't agree on that

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Holgar82 said:
It still needs a bit of work
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Any chance to recover those deleted files from 2014? To see how Iorveth would look like in TW3. Thanks in advance
 
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Aditya

Aditya

Forum veteran
#197
Dec 3, 2015
Bad news for TW2 fans

Looks like Iorveth or Saskia ain't coming in TW3.

Thanks for breaking our hearts @Marcin Momot :'(
 
Shavod

Shavod

Wordrunner
#198
Dec 3, 2015
Sam2305 said:
I know what I'm saying. Using your own words, why Roche is helping Nilfgaard to win a war when is the same country that is butchering his own people? Because is the only option to "free" Temeria (a poor option IMO). If we would had heard this argument before the game was released many of us would had said that is impossible. Roche would never do that. But at the end, that was what CDPR wanted to happen. If this can be done, you can put Iorveth again with Nilfgaard. Reasons? The only way to save his people. Is a silly argument? The same as Roche

As I said, almost every character from TW2 could fit in TW3. And Iorvet fit until he was cut in 2014. Reasons? My assumptions is that Iorveth is a more complex character than Roche and that's why he was removed. In the context of TW3 he could support Nilfgaard, he could keep the fight against humans or he could have left the fight after Vergen was destroyed (which requires explain what was Vergen, something that never happened in TW3) but, on the other hand, after the invasion, Roche is one simpe option: Temeria, Temeria and Temeria.
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The thing with Temeria is that it first suffered through a civil war, regicide and war with Nilfgaard one after another and through careful exploration of No Man's Land you can see how much damage has been caused by that conflict to the kingdom. That's why Vernon tries to reach the compromise with Emhyr instead of keep fighting until there will be no Temeria left to save. That's also creates a conflict between Roche and Dijkstra, as Redania wasn't affected by the war that much, so Sigi has still a plenty to lose, while Roche is left with almost nothing. Iorveth on the other hand already tried that option, so it's unlikely for him to repeat the same mistake twice.

And the truth behind removal of Iorveth (among many other things) is very simple: lack of money to finish it, no other insane theory needed. I doubt anyone would be satisfied if they left in the game the Iorveth stuff they already completed.
 
Marcin Momot

Marcin Momot

CD PROJEKT RED
#199
Dec 3, 2015
Aditya said:
Looks like Iorveth or Saskia ain't coming in TW3.

Thanks for breaking our hearts @Marcin Momot :'(
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I'm sorry. If that makes you feel any better, I sided with Iorveth too:sad:
 
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PrincessCiri

PrincessCiri

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#200
Dec 3, 2015
Marcin Momot said:
I'm sorry. If that makes you feel any better, I sided with Iorveth too:sad:
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While that doesn't make me feel better, I am at least now safely assured that you are a person with good taste. :victory:
 
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