I don't give two shits about Iorveth. But for Saskia to be absent is mind-boggling. It doesn't make much sense for her to be involved in the plot of TW3, but then it didn't make much sense for her to be involved with the Witcher 2 plot either. A golden dragon helping Aedirn maintain its independence from Kaedwen... Seems easy enough to bring her into the TW3 struggles. Maybe having a golden dragon as an ally would just simplify too many things. Maybe there were too many possible save import issues (Roche path Geralt doesn't know/care about Saskia), but there should have been something, at least a mention. One possible ending has Saskia still under Philippa's control, another, she goes free, another, she dies. It seems like someone would have had SOMETHING to say about those events. But it's like she didn't even exist.
Yet the nonhumans have to live outside the city walls.
Where they've been the past two games? In the forest. Actually that is where you will meet them in TW3 too.
Exactly. And I pretty much told you beforehand why Vergen 2.0 wouldn't be plausible. Djikstra was following his very own plans. That leaves you with Cleaver and KoB. Whoreson was sponsored by Radovid and the other two could be easily bribed with money too, if need be.
The underground apparently did not have such a big influnce on Novigrad, considering that there were Witch Hunters, Eternal Fire and Nilfgaardians already there. I'll explain down below.
Look, don't be a smartass now. While I do see your point, it's not that simple. TW3 plot is quite messy and I feel like CDPR lost track too.
First of all, the tides turn as soon as you go through with the assassination of Radovid. After that Nilfgaard can just roflstomp through the north and take whatever they please. I have a hard time believing Novigrad would be able to do what nobody before them could: Stop Nilfgaard.
Second of all, Novigrad's fleet is worth shit when the city is already infested with Redanians and Nilfgaardians. What is it supposed to do? Circle around and shoot at its own people?
Third of all, the city would not be as united as you make it sound. You have the Hierarch, who is supposed to be the one leading the city. Judging from his mentality, Radovid and him seem like-minded and cooperating. Considering that Radovid has witch hunters patrolling Oxenfurt and Novigrad, I feel proved in my assumption. Additionally Radovid is chilling in his boat in Novigrad, too. Add to this the default victory of Radovid, if you do not assassinate him and I'm 99% sure this is the case. So the conclusion is, that Novigrad might be a free city, but it is heavily leaning toward Redania.
Fourth of all, the humans were pretty willing to see mages and nonhumans burn, seems like quite the bad starting point to have Scoia'tael be appointed your new allies. Furthermore it proves that the people itself rather share the Mad King's vision. Vergen had a completely different starting point. A) It was a dwarven city B) No racism C) One common enemy/United front D) Common goal E) No fanatic religion. Just to name a few important points. And even then the poisoning still happened.
Fifth of all, like I already mentioned. "The Big Four" quickly became the big two. Whoreson allied with Radovid and Djikstra had his very own plans, leaving only Cleaver and the King Of Beggars. While influential, I really doubt they'd be able to overcome all the obstacles AND THEN face Redania AND Nilfgaard.
Sixth of all, it was not mentioned in the endings, that Novigrad fell to Nilfgaard or Redania for that matter. So I take it you are assuming this? EDIT: I was wrong, I admit.
Seventh of all, maybe I am the minority here, but I feel like it was never about conquering Novigrad as much as gaining Novigrad's support. Why would Redania conquer Novigrad after all this time? It was declared a free state by Redania after all. EDIT: Well, I was wrong again.
But I agree, Novigrad was kinda hyped and then nothing came after that. I expected the KoB to give me a quest in the second act, but he didn't.
This. It was not the case when going from TW1 to TW2 either, so I do not know why people expected this in TW3 all of a sudden.
I could see this being an option, but I cannot see Saskia or Iorveth abandoning Vergen for Philippa, even after Vergen has fallen.
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Saskia is mentioned in the game by Philippa, if she does not die in TW2:
Geralt: Where's Saskia now? She manage to free herself of your spell?
Philippa Eilhart: I lost control of her when the war broke out. I've no notion where she is.
Geralt: I know you used her, but… couldn't escape the impression that you actually cared for her in some way.
Philippa Eilhart: Really?
Philippa Eilhart: I lost control of her when the war broke out. I've no notion where she is.
Geralt: I know you used her, but… couldn't escape the impression that you actually cared for her in some way.
Philippa Eilhart: Really?
Perhaps they can be interpreted differently, but the endings (specifically the slides showing Novigrad's fate) include these lines for Radovid's and Nilfgaard's victory, respectively:
Dandelion: The Redanian Eagle spread its wings, taking all the North, including Novigrad, beneath them.
Dandelion: Black banners appeared over Novigrad and all Redania.
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My bad, it's been quite long since my last playthrough. Then it makes less sense, I agree.
Still a neutral territory.Yet the nonhumans have to live outside the city walls.
And you think they want to stay in the forest for the rest of their lives dealing with shitty forest monsters and living in the wilderness?
I never meant that Novigrad could save the all north and defeat Nilfgaard. But an ending where it remains kinda "neutral/independent" doesn't seem so nonsense to me.
The fleet is always something. It could position itself on the side of the Nilfgaardian shore ( who knows maybe even supported by Skellige) and keep busy the Nilfgaardians from that western side.
True. Novigrad is not an easy place to start something like a rebellion like the one of Saskia. But still i take in count that the common folk can easily change their minds, especially because the King of Beggars, as opposed to Dijkstra/Cleaver/Whoreson, is one of those people who are well known and respected in the all city. The game clearly puts for a moment a feeling of importance upon his character, which sadly vanishes after 10 minutes because of how it was all handled, and i kinda saw him as a similar role which had Saskia in tw2. The "leader" who could deal with everyone in that city. Rip this content.
Assuming?
Well, maybe because it's one of the most important and rich city of the continent, and i believe that Radovid would use the excuse of the war to take it. Like Geralt said in the prologue of tw3 "many rules choked on that bone" referring to Novigrad.
Btw, it seems weird only to me that in ALL Novigrad there are Redanian guards? I mean, Redanian? And that is supposed to be a free city?
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Some people here, in this thread, had the desire that CDPR in the end would adress their demands and I said that it was useless. In the end, the discussion ended with a mutual "time will say". Well. time has spoken
Wow!! Marvelous. Did you do it? Awesome
I hope some modders could do the same but in the game (If CDPR let them...)
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Agree
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Because that it's not making justice to the character...
What you mean by in the game? This is ingame
nice
The model is from tw2
What you mean by in the game? This is ingame
Really????, I thought it was just a screenshot made by photoshop or something like that. Who did it?
Me
With facial animations and all, he has Roche's voice tho :\
Please, Just tell me how. You just made more than CDPR in an entire year
Ehm, not easy to explain. Need to know how to use a 3d software and how the modding of this game works.
Thank you btw, i'd like to do even more