If your past justified your present actions then there would be no prisons...just saying...
Then our beliefs differ entirely. They don't have to explicitly tell us or show us anything for it to be true in the game. That wouldn't be possible anyway because there is to much to tell and to little time in the game to tell it. But everything that happened in the books still happened in the games. That is why the TW games are considered to have such rich lore. If everything that isn't mentioned in the games isn't true, then the lore would be very poor. So, it comes down to that either do the players know what happened or they have to assume what happened, for example to Ciri och Yennefer. But, just because they don't know doesn't mean it is meaningless history.
What is with this prison analogy you keep referring to? I am either missing a point, or it has nothing to do with how Yennefer carries herself and what is the reason behind it.
Is her caring for Ciri and Geralt a bad behavior? Is her risking everything to save those two a bad behavior? Is her forgiving Triss for the treachery and working alongside her to save the world a bad behavior?
It certainly makes it meaningless to the person who doesn't know about it...the only people I see defending Yen's personality are those who read the books. To me that shows either CDPR didn't want what happened in the books to matter, or they did a poor job of showing Yen's personality in the game. Either way, it makes the lore form the books rather meaningless.
Has anyone claimed that Yen is evil ? no one has done that, im pretty sure that we all know that she has some qualities, some of us just dont like her attitude , no amount of example of her good deeds is going to change that . Yen fans just need to realize that not everyone is going to like her and they have no chance in hell to change that , that goes for fans of any character btw, your favorite doesnt have to be my favorite and vice versa and that is alright.
I keep referring to prisons? That was the one and only time. Anyways, it means that every criminal has a sob story about there past. It does not justify their actions. if it did, no one would get convicted of any crimes.
As far as I have heard this is actually "light" Yen, in the books she is even supposed to be worse (if one can imagine that)
It means that CDPR made a poor job, at least for non-book readers. Book readers understand her. Because you can't claim that they didn't want it to matter, because there are loads of other stuff from the books in the game that does matter. Everything from the books matter. And it's not meaningless. The players who don't know will just get a worse (but not bad) experience when they don't know it all. And most players actually try to read up on the events from the book to get that better understanding.
We Yen fans do realize that. But all the non-Yen fans just throw out opinions about her character like they are facts, without actually taking time to think about her character. And of course comparing her to Saint Triss.
Exactly, the players who don't know will get a worse opinion of her. Thus, if they cared about that they would have put more in the game about it from the books. Therefore they didn't care about it and that is why it is meaningless.
No we are just judging her based on the games (thats all we can do) and I think she was very annoying in TW3
The person,who claimed that Yen was worse in the books also claimed,that Triss was always nice and sweet,which is not true
They are facts when taking them from the POV of the games. So there is no point trying to dismiss people just because they haven't read the books. And in my defense I have not compared her to Triss at all. this is a Yen thread not a Triss vs. Yen thread.
No, as I wrote a couple of posts above, there is not enough time to tell everything in the game. They have to make sacrifices, and therefore they can't explicitly tell everything about a character's back story. But that still doesn't mean that some history is meaningless.
It doesnt help that in game characters , the other witchers especially , keep reminding you about how much of a bitch Yen is lol so yea CDPR went out of their way to portray her that way.
Well i for one am just giving my opinion on the matter and never claimed they were facts for everyone to accept.
Precisely this. It is the job of CDPR to convey all the info to the player of the game that they want the player to know. It is not the players responsibility to go out and find other source material.
Its of course still canon but its meaningless for game fans (who haven't read the books)
Lazy writing on their part. They wanted to let the non-book readers know that their relationship was turbulent, and to outside characters it appeared outright crazy. So, by having the other characters constantly picking on Yen, the non-book reader will think "Oh, I suppose she is a bitch". Lazy writing. But, also proof that there weren't enough time to tell their rich back story, meaning that they had to try and tell it in other ways. But, they did it wrong.
Lol, Triss is nice in the sense she is polite to people, but she clearly lacks a backbone and allows herself to be manipulated by stronger people. She had fallen for Geralt because he was the forbidden fruit, a source of pain, shame and guilt, which, according to the monologue she gave herself in Kaer Morhen at the beginning of the first book, she sought for. There is nothing pure about their relationship.
