It is very relevant. You might not think so, but many others do. Knowing the history of the characters enriches the experience, because you know more about them. And, I have never claimed that Triss hasn't changed in the games, she has. And you know what, knowing her history from the books makes that change even better and more meaningful.
It is very relevant. You might not think so, but many others do. Knowing the history of the characters enriches the experience, because you know more about them. And, I have never claimed that Triss hasn't changed in the games, she has. And you know what, knowing her history from the books makes that change even better and more meaningful.
But Yen is not one of those girls who act like bitches because they want to test your character and see if you can handle them, but really are sweethearts under that bitchy attitude. She's a full, real, proper bitch. You probably never dated a girl like Yen, i have and i assure you, arguing about everything isn't fun. Yen makes me laugh, but she's a character from a game.
We seem to be on the same page here, that makes difficult for me to understand why Geralt shouldn't like Triss in TW3 after everything that happened in the first two games then.
PS: about their romance in TW3, i'm in act 2 so i don't know the whole thing but from what i've seen i think CDP gave more space to Yen because they had time to develop Triss and Geralt story during the first two games. They fell in love and would've run together at the end of W2, but people who didn't read the books know absolutely nothing about the woman Geralt loved for 20 years. So one should feel more like a story that is already at a certain point, and you need to choose if you want to start from there and see what happens, while the other is about two people that need to retrieve what they had. So it's only natural that Yen had more screen time, that and the fact that you're looking for her "daughter"... This doesn't mean that CDP handled Triss badly or that they want you to choose Yen though. At least from my understanding, from what i've seen in the game up until act 2.
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I think they handled her excellently - felt exactly like the book Yen. Could've used a bit more animosity towards Triss after all the shit Triss pulled in the books though. She trusted her far too easily, especially after she pulled more crap on Geralt in the first two games and Yen seemingly knows about it.
Well i kind of expected this, and it's pretty shit*y. Just like the end of act 2 imho, but that's another story for another thread. One about your (in)ability to influence the story, but i'll talk about this after i beat the game. Hopefully it will prove me wrong in the meantime.
Here we disagree with each other greatly. Why do you consider her a bitch? Because she tells Geralt what to wear and do? You said you had read the books, so then you should know that there is much more to Yennefer beneath that facade.
I agree, but on the other hand I am glad she is a better person and forgave Triss. Shows her maturity and distance. Besides, some haters would tear her apart for being 'bitchy', as,. you know, you should just move on when your best friend uses the love of your life for her selfish purposes.
Yes of course, people are not monodimensional and Yen is a very well written character because she isn't either. But that's not a facade, she has more than one side but this doesn't mean that she only pretends to be a bitch. There's a reason why she and Geralt fight... not all the time, but a lot. Why their relationship had so many ups and downs, although Geralt has his part in this for sure. At least that's my interpretation of her and of their relationship.
Except that's not what happened. She's so mature that she threw a bed out of the window and literally sent Geralt flying when he confronted her about this.
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But it is a facade. She tries so hard to hide her true emotions from people that she puts on this facade that basically repels people. I don't know if you read my analysis of her in the other thread, so I'm linking it cause I don't want to repeat myself: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...ll-spoilers)?p=1716138&viewfull=1#post1716138
And there is also one really good and telling quote from Blood of Elves, that describes Yennefer:
In a minute she’s going to ask why I didn’t like her, thought Ciri. No, she’s too clever to ask such a question. She’ll dryly draw my attention to my grammar and ask when I started using the past tense. And I’ll tell her. I’ll be just as dry as she is, I’ll parody her tone of voice, let her know that I, too, can pretend to be cold, unfeeling and indifferent, ashamed of my feelings and emotions. I’ll tell her everything. I want to, I have to tell her everything. I want her to know everything before we leave Melitele’s Temple. Before we part to finally meet the one I miss. The one she misses. The one who no doubt misses us both. I want to tell her that…
I’ll tell her. It’s enough for her to ask.
The magician turned from the window and smiled. She did not ask anything
I’ll tell her. It’s enough for her to ask.
The magician turned from the window and smiled. She did not ask anything
Dunno. Yen is someone I would expect to hold onto her grudge. Especially for good reasons.
And Triss keeps pilling on in the first two games. But you are probably right, that would probably create even more shitstorm.
I never said she was testing Geralt, that was never the point, and arguing wasn't as well. I'm not into sweet or insufferable cuteness in romances, that's why when it comes to gaming, my favorite characters are Miranda from Mass Effect, Morrigan in Dragon Age, and Yennefer in The Witcher. They all share a very specific trait, they're strong, sometimes cold, have quite the ego and aren't running after a man, or desiring one 24 hours per day, basically.
Dunno. Yen is someone I would expect to hold onto her grudge. Especially for good reasons.
And Triss keeps pilling on in the first two games. But you are probably right, that would probably create even more shitstorm.
Finally someone posted this infamous excerpt from the books, thank you very much Sir!
And there's plenty who did, so what are you trying to say here anyways? Justifying why you don't like her? That's fine, it's your opinion.
Point is that she didn't have to turn out to be so?
You know what, I'd not mind Yen so much if the game hadn't forced her on us, oh and not let us have the option to kill her, like it did with Keira.
Or just let us have the option to tell her "Go fuck yourself, you selfish arrogant bitch!". Or something to that effect.
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Careful book readers will get salty ..
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I agree I absolutely hated how much she was forced on us, even if we didn't romance her it was like a romance was going on
Its as if CDPR forgot that TW3 was a RPG game
My Geralt was acting like a very desperate idiot around her and I didn't like that at all
acting like a bitch=being a bitch. so there's really no distinction there. some people are into masochism, testing people, etc. i just think it's a bit pathetic and is a sure indicator of mental instability.
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Not a Triss fan BTW, but at least she got quite a lot of thrashing in the games, Yen's so far not got what she deserved, in the game. And even after breaking up in "The Last Wish" the game still treat you and her like a couple.
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