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Is it me, or does everyone have a raging hardon for romancing Judy?

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eidius

Senior user
#81
Jan 7, 2021
All romance character should have been bi to let player romance who they went.

Or alternatively made the "friends only" content just as indepth as the romance ones.
When you cant romance a character it seems like you lose a big chunk of their story.
 
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Trinixy

Trinixy

Forum regular
#82
Jan 7, 2021
Comon it went well so far please....
 
Mentos3

Mentos3

Forum regular
#83
Jan 7, 2021
Ashii said:
Double standards much?
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No.
Kerry and River leave V if you go with the Nomad ending.
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I can't remember if River know that V has a relict in his head.
But we discussed "Judy - why not?" And I made the mistake to say: "Judy - for what?"
Panam and Judy leave V if you don't go with the Nomad ending, yet V is still dying.
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In the Sun-End Panam is p*ssed because V don't want to go with her.
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#84
Jan 7, 2021
Icinix said:
It's almost inevitable these days, you make a likeable great character and the player base will want to bang them.

I blame decades of game development putting sex as the end goal of romance options for creating that standard now.
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I think it's a combination of that and seeing how only through romance do you really get to explore a character and really develop a deeper relationship with them or understanding of them.

To this game's credit, I love the relationships the game gives you. You can romance Panam and have a great friendship with Judy, or romance Judy and have a great friendship with Panam.
 
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OG_VELI

Forum regular
#85
Jan 7, 2021
Mentos3 said:
Didn't like Judy that much. Ok, she shows V the braindance. After Evelyn insist. But then she is always asking for help, because V is a mercenary etc. And she often reacts hysterical.
What could V have done to help the person in the bathtub? - Nothing.
Can you carry the person to the couch? - Oh well, of course, thx for the call :rolleyes:

I don't like helpless, female characters. Judy is a ... in german you would say: softegg or better "Lappen".
Panam has to much temper, but V can handle that.

(Team Triss btw.)
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Put yourself in her shoes, and you would do the same thing unless, of course, you are more comfortable being alone in a desperate situation without a good friend that can help you cope. A good friend by your side is always a good thing, you want it or not. Believe me, I learned that the hard way.
 
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Ashii

Ashii

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#86
Jan 7, 2021
Razyen said:
Well, about that: during that same mission, moments before stealing the Basilisk, if you are "romancing" Panam and you talk with Carol, she will ask you something like: "Panam called you here, to help her, despite having us all. Do you understand why?"

So, to be honest... it's pretty much hinted that Panam calls the male V just to have him there. :)

That said, I like them both, but I personally prefer Panam. Hope every relationship will get a chance to be deepened and expanded - and that new ones will be added in the future. ç_ç
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Panam for calling V or anything. I'm playing as femV, so Panam basically just calls her friend for help, even though she has her whole family ready to help. Just like Judy calls V for help, but the difference here is, Judy doesn't have anyone else. The only friend she has is V.
 
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Mentos3

Mentos3

Forum regular
#87
Jan 7, 2021
eidius said:
All romance character should have been bi to let player romance who they went.
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Nope. In RL you don't have the chance either, if you're not an object of interest.
It would not be "natural", if everyone is bi in the game.
 
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Icinix

Icinix

Forum veteran
#88
Jan 7, 2021
eidius said:
All romance character should have been bi to let player romance who they went.

Or alternatively made the "friends only" content just as indepth as the romance ones.
When you cant romance a character it seems like you lose a big chunk of their story.
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No to the first part - because;

Yes to the second. Richer, better experiences with characters are always a win. Something that makes Judy so damn fantastic, is that you really get to explore her as a character and you don't miss out on content by having a friendship.

There was this one time in my first playthrough, I'd done a particularly brutal side gig that dealt with some dark subject matter that actually wrapped up making me feel a bit shit....then Judy sent my V some shots and just sweet messages. Wasn't scripted that way, the timing was just exceptional.

If you can create those kinds of moments and relationships in game with your characters, that is something just outright spectacular that needs to be explored more.
 
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eidius

Senior user
#89
Jan 7, 2021
Mentos3 said:
Nope. In RL you don't have the chance either, if you're not an object of interest.
It would not be "natural", if everyone is bi in the game.
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This game is not real life and the romance of this game could barely be even considered an imitation of what a real intimate relationship is.
And the fact that these romance interests become a piece furniture after their questline does not add any quality over quantity argument of why the choices are so limited.

So please spare me that lame argument.
 
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WildOrchid

WildOrchid

Forum regular
#90
Jan 7, 2021
Ashii said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Panam for calling V or anything. I'm playing as femV, so Panam basically just calls her friend for help, even though she has her whole family ready to help. Just like Judy calls V for help, but the difference here is, Judy doesn't have anyone else. The only friend she has is V.
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Thank god not anymore. She now has V, Panam and her whole family of Aldecados. :giveup:
 
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mbrto

mbrto

Forum regular
#91
Jan 7, 2021
Mentos3 said:
Didn't like Judy that much. Ok, she shows V the braindance. After Evelyn insist. But then she is always asking for help, because V is a mercenary etc. And she often reacts hysterical.
What could V have done to help the person in the bathtub? - Nothing.
Can you carry the person to the couch? - Oh well, of course, thx for the call :rolleyes:

I don't like helpless, female characters. Judy is a ... in german you would say: softegg or better "Lappen".
Panam has to much temper, but V can handle that.

(Team Triss btw.)
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i think thats a bit cold.
first her fiance flatlines in her bathtub, then she falls in love with a woman who has only a few months left to live
i think she has every right to be impulsive

and when judy aks V for help, she doesnt really have anyone else to turn to

especially with clouds
the mox look after one another, but dont care much about outsiders
judy has way more empathy and wants to help others where she can
its not like she uses V for her own selfish gains

she goes out of her way to help others who have no money and no power.
sex workers. people who could disappear and hardly anyone would notice.

despite all the stuff she has to go though herself
i think that makes her incredibly strong and asking for help doesnt change that

just a lovable, well tought out character
 
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Ashii

Ashii

Forum veteran
#92
Jan 7, 2021
eidius said:
This game is not real life and the romance of this game could barely be even considered an imitation of what a real intimate relationship is.
And the fact that these romance interests become a piece furniture after their questline does not add any quality over quantity argument of why the choices are so limited.

So please spare me that lame argument.
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Just because it's a game that doesn't mean everything has to be up to player's fantasy. Especially playersexual romances.
 
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eidius

Senior user
#93
Jan 7, 2021
Ashii said:
Just because it's a game that doesn't mean everything has to be up to player's fantasy. Especially playersexual romances.
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K.
 
WildOrchid

WildOrchid

Forum regular
#94
Jan 7, 2021
Fiance. :giveup:
 
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Ashii

Ashii

Forum veteran
#95
Jan 7, 2021
WildOrchid said:
Fiance. :giveup:
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Not gonna lie, I laughed, hard. :beer:

EDIT: I'll just add that the other post was still really well written.
 
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mbrto

mbrto

Forum regular
#96
Jan 7, 2021
WildOrchid said:
Thank god not anymore. She now has V, Panam and her whole family of Aldecados. :giveup:
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judy really stays with the them? im pretty sure V won´t (for long)
didnt play panam´s ending yet. i refuse to sacrifice a single aldecaldo
 
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Trinixy

Forum regular
#97
Jan 7, 2021
mbrto said:
judy really stays with the them? im pretty sure V won´t (for long)
didnt play panam´s ending yet. i refuse to sacrifice a single aldecaldo
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You are in for a treat in credits too <3
 
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WildOrchid

WildOrchid

Forum regular
#98
Jan 7, 2021
mbrto said:
judy really stays with the them? im pretty sure V won´t (for long)
didnt play panam´s ending yet. i refuse to sacrifice a single aldecaldo
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If you romanced Judy, do it. You won't be disappointed. :sad:
(lemme believe she'll live for a long time :giveup:)
 
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Mentos3

Mentos3

Forum regular
#99
Jan 7, 2021
eidius said:
This game is not real life
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No, but a game like CP has the goal to imitate the enviroment as far as possible.
and the romance of this game could barely be even considered an imitation of what a real intimate relationship is.

And the fact that these romance interests become a piece furniture after their questline does not add any quality over quantity argument of why the choices are so limited.

So please spare me that lame argument.
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I never said, that the romances were a highlight or that there is much to choose.
 
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Razyen

Forum regular
#100
Jan 7, 2021
Ashii said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Panam for calling V or anything. I'm playing as femV, so Panam basically just calls her friend for help, even though she has her whole family ready to help. Just like Judy calls V for help, but the difference here is, Judy doesn't have anyone else. The only friend she has is V.
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Sure, I get it. I was not... pointing my finger at Judy, I was just trying to better explain Panam's actions and choices in that specifical situation - at least with a male V, 'cause that's the one I played. >_>

Personally, I don't Judy it's simply "helpless". She's lonely, disillusioned and angry. And while Panam faces mostly phisical and concrete problems (militech, bullets, enemies with a face), she has to fight a different war and most of her foes are indisious and invisible ones - depression, mental breakdown, betrayal. They are just different characters, both very good.
 
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