I started a NG+ awhile back before the release of B&W.
And my experience was like this:
I was level 69 and when I started the game, i had the same level, with the same gear, nothing changed one bit except for monsters and human level scaling.
Instead of being at level 1 they were at 35.
And in HOS, Enemies were not exceeding level 65, and I was 70 then.
In the B&W, You get to upgrade more, so you can find a Level 78 opponents. Yet they are not that much of a challenge if you`re good at what you do.
To sum Up, NG+ Means new overpowered gears (Not Much though) and more challenging experience, not that very hard to achieve and overcome, as you advance the game become easy somehow except for those near your level.
And my experience was like this:
I was level 69 and when I started the game, i had the same level, with the same gear, nothing changed one bit except for monsters and human level scaling.
Instead of being at level 1 they were at 35.
And in HOS, Enemies were not exceeding level 65, and I was 70 then.
In the B&W, You get to upgrade more, so you can find a Level 78 opponents. Yet they are not that much of a challenge if you`re good at what you do.
To sum Up, NG+ Means new overpowered gears (Not Much though) and more challenging experience, not that very hard to achieve and overcome, as you advance the game become easy somehow except for those near your level.
I think you are missing the point Youssuf, i too have a problem with ng+. I started a new playtrhough from lvl 69-70 a couple of days back, the problem is that mastercrafted gear requires Geralt to be lvl 101 to wear it, and the lvl cap is 100.. which isnt good ..The leveling and gear requirement needs to be re-thought
Well it has nothing to do with cheats.I know a guy who played on PS4 use the experience bug on quest'The path of a warrior' to reach level 100 and then he started NG+ and the whole thing screwed. The first HoS quest is Lv132 and completely unplayable.
This is Exp Exploit I mentioned in my previous post. Spending whole day on repeating it to get those 50 exp for each run is asking for trouble
This is Exp Exploit I mentioned in my previous post. Spending whole day on repeating it to get those 50 exp for each run is asking for trouble
I'm sure you play tested this in CDPR, what's the approx max level you can get to with both expansions in a new game, not new game plus?
I guess it's somehwere around level 50, hence the level cap 100 (50 for ng + 50 from NG+). I for one was level 52 when I completed the main game, plus all the DLC and points of interest. No mods, exploits to bump up my Xp were used.
Do you get more XP on lower difficulties? I thought you'd always get the same regardless of the challenge. It was DM for me anyway.
I've only read that lower difficulties give more XP. I'm playing DM and have slowed down my new game playthrough due to these threads on 100+ level quests/gear and other bugs. Time to put it it first gear again. Maybe.
Well, lower difficulties may yield more XP, but due to how leveling mechanics work in this game it won't matter in a long run. You'd still end up being around the same level as any legitimate player at the end of the game.
Also, to get locked from, say, grandmaster witcher sets in NG+, your starting level there must be above 60, as 40 is the required level for all GM witcher gear (60+40 = 100). I guess you can't really get above 60 in a normal, no mods, no XP exploits playthrough.
Last edited:
But its already done. You can't abandon the save because it already played hundreds ours.But at this case its completely unplayabe.Before 1.21 it was all good.If I know this before I'd start a NG+ before download B&W. This is serious.This is Exp Exploit I mentioned in my previous post. Spending whole day on repeating it to get those 50 exp for each run is asking for trouble
---------- Updated at 03:22 PM ----------
This is Exp Exploit I mentioned in my previous post. Spending whole day on repeating it to get those 50 exp for each run is asking for trouble
Well the way I see the quest and monsters should not be over level100+ in case players can never reach these level. Or these would be fine too: Level150 monsters? Well no problem. Just let me can reach these level too.
With the two added expansions HoS and B&W, its easy to hit lvl 55+ without using any cheats, exploits, mods in normal game mode. This means that many items will have a lvl 101+ requrement in NG+ afterwards.
Ignore the guy who mentioned the 50exp bug, that is clearly an exploit yes. But there are lots of players who are still above lvl 52+ after finishing normal mode + expansions without these cheats.
Please fix it, otherwise NG+ is screwed for players like me who used zero cheats, exploits mods or anything but still have 101+ requirements in NG+ now
With the two added expansions HoS and B&W, its easy to hit lvl 55+ without using any cheats, exploits, mods in normal game mode. This means that many items will have a lvl 101+ requrement in NG+ afterwards.
Ignore the guy who mentioned the 50exp bug, that is clearly an exploit yes. But there are lots of players who are still above lvl 52+ after finishing normal mode + expansions without these cheats.
Please fix it, otherwise NG+ is screwed for players like me who used zero cheats, exploits mods or anything but still have 101+ requirements in NG+ now
Just curious, what level were you when you started ng+, had you finished both expansions in normal game mode and what difficulty are you playing at?
I hit level 53 with HoS and BaW in normal game on Death March difficulty. It's not that difficult to reach this level if you do the quests at the right time and ignore POIs till you've completed the main and secondary quests. The advantage of doing POIs at the end is that it lets you get another 2 levels or so. This is mostly obtained by clearing out monster nests and abandoned sites which give decent XP (which is constant and doesn't depend on which level you're currently at).
If you plan out quests even more carefully, then reaching level 55 should be possible. In such cases the NG+ game with this save might cause issues with levelling as the OP mentioned.
I think the fix here would be cap the max starting level of quests in an NG+ game at 50 no matter which level you start on. That way all quest level requirements will always stay under 100.
If you plan out quests even more carefully, then reaching level 55 should be possible. In such cases the NG+ game with this save might cause issues with levelling as the OP mentioned.
I think the fix here would be cap the max starting level of quests in an NG+ game at 50 no matter which level you start on. That way all quest level requirements will always stay under 100.
Yep you still got Lv100+ quest and monsters in NG+ without any cheats. Its only the matter of time before that happened,which means this is a bug that should be fix. For the player like me who already use bug to get extra level a long time ago that's more serious problem.With the two added expansions HoS and B&W, its easy to hit lvl 55+ without using any cheats, exploits, mods in normal game mode. This means that many items will have a lvl 101+ requrement in NG+ afterwards.
Ignore the guy who mentioned the 50exp bug, that is clearly an exploit yes. But there are lots of players who are still above lvl 52+ after finishing normal mode + expansions without these cheats.
Please fix it, otherwise NG+ is screwed for players like me who used zero cheats, exploits mods or anything but still have 101+ requirements in NG+ now
Well, I didn't used any Exploit, cheats or mod's, but follow playing with the same save untill Blood and Wine has come - manage to get more than 500 hours, exploring the maps many times with that save, and looking for any quest I could had missed, and now I'm also with problems (reached level 69). - With just 3 saves, I already played more than 1.100 hours, even.
So I never though that by liking to explore/play fair with a save, would give me problems, too.
https://scontent.fgig1-4.fna.fbcdn....=f8616a003173424d33f5cc10d9beb8bb&oe=57DF2859
1.138 hours, 34 min., 36.449 enemies killed, not a single mod (Xbox One) or cheat, and now I'm f#cked...
Last edited:
when i finished the game the first time last year i hit level 37 or 38 if im not mistaken (or maybe it was 37 and a half after which i grinded skellige for 2xp monsters till i got to 38), and i completed 99.5% of the quests (leaving myself a margin for error,who knows maybe i missed 1 or two), and i takled the quests in a completely stupid order, meaning i went for the over-lvl quests, got exp, and then when i came back to the lower lvl quests i hardly got any exp, so im thinkin you can finish your first playtrhough above 43ish if u take quests propperly. After i finished it, i immediately started a new game plus playthrough when new game plus was made available.(without waitin for the expansions). My point is that if one tackles the game correctly one can squeeze out 40 lvls from the normal campaign and another 30 out of both expansions.
Thing is, i wanted to play it again, after i had completeed blood and wine, and i wanted a save file that was ng+ ready with both expansions completed (which i didn't have , because i only finished the main game , in normal mode, and the expansions on NG+) so i downloaded a save file from a forum which was lvl 69, and since i was confident (and still am) about the fact that 69 si a possible level to obtain, i went on and started playing.
I finished velen (all unexplored locations , excep for HoS ones and the one in the mountain u get later ), and played it once again in a stupid order, becuase i didnt want to actually think about it, and i wanted to enjoy it , i have like 15 sidequests left there which give no exp, because at the moment im lvl 93, and the quests are 77-82.
The problem is that i just now noticed the mastercrafted set requirements of 101 ...
And for the record its completely possible to finish the game at a ridiculous level , because last i checked running around killing white wolves and neckers isnt explotiing , and they give 2 exp, meaning 1000 eneemis killed = 1 lvl, and if someone has enough patience they could do it . I grinded half a lvl in 1 hour last year.. so it aint that hard
Thing is, i wanted to play it again, after i had completeed blood and wine, and i wanted a save file that was ng+ ready with both expansions completed (which i didn't have , because i only finished the main game , in normal mode, and the expansions on NG+) so i downloaded a save file from a forum which was lvl 69, and since i was confident (and still am) about the fact that 69 si a possible level to obtain, i went on and started playing.
I finished velen (all unexplored locations , excep for HoS ones and the one in the mountain u get later ), and played it once again in a stupid order, becuase i didnt want to actually think about it, and i wanted to enjoy it , i have like 15 sidequests left there which give no exp, because at the moment im lvl 93, and the quests are 77-82.
The problem is that i just now noticed the mastercrafted set requirements of 101 ...
And for the record its completely possible to finish the game at a ridiculous level , because last i checked running around killing white wolves and neckers isnt explotiing , and they give 2 exp, meaning 1000 eneemis killed = 1 lvl, and if someone has enough patience they could do it . I grinded half a lvl in 1 hour last year.. so it aint that hard