Is TW3 getting downgraded for the sake of consoles?

[ONLY_ONCE]

Can we please stop worrying about this, they already said consoles will be the equivilent of a high end pc.
The goal is 1080p for both consoles by release, Xbone was only running at 900p at E3 because they had not tapped into that so called extra power now that the kinect is gone. PS4 is already 1080p. PC will be just fine.

 

[Mortalsaw]

Can we please stop worrying about this, they already said consoles will be the equivilent of a high end pc.
The goal is 1080p for both consoles by release, Xbone was only running at 900p at E3 because they had not tapped into that so called extra power now that the kinect is gone. PS4 is already 1080p. PC will be just fine.

can you blame people ? after Watch Dogs and Rumors around Division

 

[ONLY_ONCE]

can you blame people ? after Watch Dogs and Rumors around Division

CDPR & UBISOFT. Hmm.. that is like comparing Apples & Oranges.
That is like comparing Slayer to Vanilla Ice.

 

[Mortalsaw]

I'm not sure what CDPR has done to earn this distrust, and likewise am I not sure what all the examples of downgraded games from Ubisoft have to do with CDPR.

it is inevitable when a developer signs a contract with Sony or Microsoft -.-
but for whats it worth CDPR is one of a kind , i hope they stay that way

 

[dragonbird]

it is inevitable when a developer signs a contract with Sony or Microsoft -.-

No, I'm pretty sure that there's nothing in any contract that says "We promise to downgrade the PC version of the game for the privilege of selling our game on your console". You are, of course, welcome to your opinion of how bad cross-platform games are, but please don't spread FUD.

 

[jsp1983]

As long as i get it on console i CGAF about pc

 

[Mortalsaw]

No, I'm pretty sure that there's nothing in any contract that says "We promise to downgrade the PC version of the game for the privilege of selling our game on your console". You are, of course, welcome to your opinion of how bad cross-platform games are, but please don't spread FUD.

the privilege is not just selling the game on console its various things .
they are obligated to make the graphics fidelity gap as low as possible ( for selling ofcourse and not to go to the path of Wii U - not to leave an expression of underpowered machine ) although this is a known issue but not all of the people are very tech savvy so it makes it easier to sell consoles the only thing left is to make it not much better on PC because every damn eye can see difference in a video comparison .
its not a FUD but its the thing is going on nowadays in this industry .

 

[adridu59]

it is inevitable when a developer signs a contract with Sony or Microsoft -.-

Nice crap

 

[gregski]

the privilege is not just selling the game on console its various things .
they are obligated to make the graphics fidelity gap as low as possible ( for selling ofcourse and not to go to the path of Wii U - not to leave an expression of underpowered machine ) although this is a known issue but not all of the people are very tech savvy so it makes it easier to sell consoles the only thing left is to make it not much better on PC because every damn eye can see difference in a video comparison .
its not a FUD but its the thing is going on nowadays in this industry .

It's FUD regarding CDPR and the Witcher 3, as they already clearly stated that the game will look far better on PC.

 

[Scholdarr]

they are obligated to make the graphics fidelity gap as low as possible

I know this urban myth but it's just not reasonable. There is no logic involved. It's something disappointed PC gamers made up for themselves without thinking through it properly and the internet just spread this myth without any additional thought as well...

Why should console gamers not buy the game if the PC version looks better? They could buy it on PC as well if they had one. If they lack the PC the only possiblity they have is to buy it for a console. Do you really think that someone won't buy a game that appeals to them on console just because it looks better on PC? That's not logical and almost nobody would do so.

There is absolutely no reason for a developer to make the PC less good looking on purpose because of consoles. They could decide to make the PC version less good looking because they might think that it's not worth the effort. But that decision has nothing to do with consoles.

 

[Zanderat]

Can we please stop worrying about this, they already said consoles will be the equivilent of a high end pc.
The goal is 1080p for both consoles by release, Xbone was only running at 900p at E3 because they had not tapped into that so called extra power now that the kinect is gone. PS4 is already 1080p. PC will be just fine.

But, the consoles are NOT the equivalent of a high end pc. Hence the skepticism.

 

[sidspyker]

People are getting worked up over a typical PR statement apparently.

 

[chiefje]

I know this urban myth but it's just not reasonable. There is no logic involved. It's something disappointed PC gamers made up for themselves without thinking through it properly and the internet just spread this myth without any additional thought as well...

Why should console gamers not buy the game if the PC version looks better? They could buy it on PC as well if they had one. If they lack the PC the only possibility they have is to buy it for a console. Do you really think that someone won't buy a game that appeals to them on console just because it looks better on PC? That's not logical and almost nobody would do so.

There is absolutely no reason for a developer to make the PC less good looking on purpose because of consoles. They could decide to make the PC version less good looking because they might think that it's not worth the effort. But that decision has nothing to do with consoles.

For the most part I agree with you, I just don't think it's this simple though. If you have three versions of a game, a PS4, XBONE and PC version. PC version looks and runs the best, and is used for all the trailers, screenshots and other promotions. Wouldn't you be slightly disappointed if you only have a PS4 able to run the game with inferior graphics? (textures, resolution, lighting and so on).

Let's say you don't know what the game looks like on PC, you just saw the cover in the store and bought the game for your PS4. Then you go to your friend, who happens to have it on PC. Will you not be slightly disappointed if his version of the game looks a lot better then yours?
And the important part here is that nobody who sells games wants you to feel disappointed or left out, because you might not buy another game from them if you do...

Just to be clear, I do not think that we will see a downgraded version of TW3 because of consoles

 

[dragonbird]

But someone with a low-end PC will be getting a worse experience than someone with a high-end PC, and nobody suggests reducing the graphical quality because of that. And I'm not sure that I've ever read "it looks better on my friend's PC" as a reason given in Metacritic for hating the developer - what they criticise is being given false info in advertising, that's a LOT more important.

I'm pretty sure that developers don't use hurt feelings as a reason. Certain developers appear to spend less time on tweaking the PC version, presumably because it takes more effort to get right and because they know that most of their sales will be on console. That's their decision - it isn't forced on them by MS/Sony, or by the console buyers wanting PC owners to suffer, it's a straightforward decision internal to the developer on how best to spend their budget.

The fact that one developer chooses to do this, and recently got a lot of bad publicity for it, is no reason to think that EVERY developer would do something like that.

 

[sidspyker]

It's nothing more than a recent 'fad', you can take too many games released over the last decade that looked/played nowhere like the showing promised but a lot of people either didn't notice, didn't care or just couldn't be bothered. That's obviously not a reason to 'justify' it but that's a good enough reason to notice it's become more like a paranoia with the next-gen consoles coming out than a concern as well.

 

[Vraek]

Witcher 2 was a console game ported to PC. It does not matter that the console version was released later. The controls, horribly ugly UI, inventory, journal, generic hollywood music, areas, alchemy, everything was dumbed down for casual gamers and weak console hardware and controller. The game doesn't even have hardware mouse support which makes using inventory with mouse almost impossible if the game runs at less than 60 fps. CDPR took all the good things W1 had and threw them out of the window and the result was W2. I have no doubt that Witcher 3 will be even worse since it is being developed simultaneously for three platforms.

Also W2 EE is still more broken and buggier than the original game and you have to install mods to fix it. What does that say about the quality of W3? I can't understand people who have more faith in CDPR than any other developer when all they have shown us PC gamers is contempt and lies about W2 not being a console port.

 

[Blooddrunk]

Witcher 2 was a console game ported to PC.

Stopped reading there.

 

[Cheylus]

The controls, the UI were worse in TW1, and TW1 wasn't a game for hardcore gamers either.

 

[majin_streater]

Man this whole thread has become dumb and repetitive. Who cares any more, love and enjoy the game when its released.

 

[val.mitev]

Witcher 2 was a console game ported to PC. It does not matter that the console version was released later. The controls, horribly ugly UI, inventory, journal, generic hollywood music, areas, alchemy, everything was dumbed down for casual gamers and weak console hardware and controller. The game doesn't even have hardware mouse support which makes using inventory with mouse almost impossible if the game runs at less than 60 fps. CDPR took all the good things W1 had and threw them out of the window and the result was W2. I have no doubt that Witcher 3 will be even worse since it is being developed simultaneously for three platforms.

Also W2 EE is still more broken and buggier than the original game and you have to install mods to fix it. What does that say about the quality of W3? I can't understand people who have more faith in CDPR than any other developer when all they have shown us PC gamers is contempt and lies about W2 not being a console port.

Not sure if trolling or serious? :hmm: