Is TW3 getting downgraded for the sake of consoles?

[archaven]

We don't know. They once said in 2013 that there will be a different UI made for the PC version but we haven't heard anything about that in the last weeks and months. So everything is pure speculation.

Next-gen is nothing else than last-gen, just with better hardware. But next-gen consoles are not on par with latest PC tech. You still can't display most games on console with sophisticated anti-aliasing on 1080p. Same is true for advanced physics or lighting effects. And sorry, playing a game on 4k is a great graphical difference to playing the game on 1080p or 900p. Same is true for the framerate if you play a fast-paced game...

I can't wait for your endless *immersion-breaking* *cough* on PC not getting a different Menus/UI and K/M experience . Let's see CDPR deliver on their promises? Remember the 2.5x bigger than Skyrim later changed to 30times bigger than TW2?

 

[Scholdarr]

I can't wait for your endless *immersion-breaking* *cough* on PC not getting a different Menus/UI and K/M experience

Won't happen. But it would indeed be pretty sad if the M/K experience on PC wouldn't be as perfect as possible. Of course we have to wait until we see the final version for a really solid assessment...


@thislsmadness
They want to compete with Skyrim. They just don't want to pick at it.

 

[thislsmadness]

I can't wait for your endless *immersion-breaking* *cough* on PC not getting a different Menus/UI and K/M experience . Let's see CDPR deliver on their promises? Remember the 2.5x bigger than Skyrim later changed to 30times bigger than TW2?

In one of the e3 interviews they said they stopped comparing it to skyrim because they didn't want it to sound like they were competing with Bethseda.

 

[maciekka09]

Remember the 2.5x bigger than Skyrim later changed to 30times bigger than TW2?

I don't, and that's because they never said that to begin with. They said 20% bigger than Skyrim, 36 times Witcher 2.

 

[Mr. Barvo]

It looks like the game, of what we have been told so far, are going to look about the same on both consols and PC. And by the looks of it, i'm not complaining; it looks very good. But I really hope they do a different UI for the PC version and that the controls wont be consolified(and simplified). Ofcourse every game that comes out on consol aswell as PC will be consolified, and to an extent downgraded on PC.

Luckily enough it doesn't seem necessary to have a high-end PC, if the game is going to look the same across all plattforms. I initially intended to buy a high-end PC for the witcher 3 but now I just might buy one in parity with the consols ie. low-end PC.

 

[Scholdarr]

It looks like the game, of what we have been told so far, are going to look about the same on both consols and PC. And by the looks of it, i'm not complaining; it looks very good. But I really hope they do a different UI for the PC version and that the controls wont be consolified(and simplified). Ofcourse every game that comes out on consol aswell as PC will be consolified, and to an extent downgraded on PC.

Luckily enough it doesn't seem necessary to have a high-end PC, if the game is going to look the same across all plattforms. I initially intended to buy a high-end PC for the witcher 3 but now I just might buy one in parity with the consols ie. low-end PC.

Depends on what you mean with "the same"... The game will definitely look better on PC on ultra settings (at 1080p and of course at higher resolutions...)

 

[archaven]

Depends on what you mean with "the same"... The game will definitely look better on PC on ultra settings (at 1080p and of course at higher resolutions...)

It will has higher visuals effects like tesselation and stuff. But overall on Next-Gen consoles it looks really good already. The differences are minimal to upgrade your PC or even go PC at all. Just go consoles as the whole industry Microsoft, Sony and now CDPR want us to go consoles. It's quite cheap on consoles $399 compared to a PC honestly and with the differnce of 5-10%.with PC maybe you need to fork out $799-$2000 for a beasty PC.

I'm still hoping for PC Menu/UI and K&M experience. But seeing there's no reply or hint from CDPR i think it's best you forget about it. They are currently focusing on optimising the consoles (trying to get XB1 to 1080p), for your information.

 

[501105]

Depends on what you mean with "the same"... The game will definitely look better on PC on ultra settings (at 1080p and of course at higher resolutions...)

But they are aiming at a similar experience across every platform, so ultra will probably not make that much of a difference.

 

[Scholdarr]

But they are aiming at a similar experience across every platform, so ultra will probably not make that much of a difference.

The gameplay (=experience) will be the same on every platform. The PC version won't have any gameplay features that the console versions won't have. Graphics have little to do with gameplay and they will be better on PC. CDPR have really stated that numerous times now...

@archav3n
Nobody said that the console version looks bad, quite the opposite. If you consider the purchase of a new PC or console ONLY for Witcher 3 and you can live with playing with a controller a console is of course a reasonable option. But few people play on PC for only one single game...
And I disagree with you for example in terms of AA. Playing a game with good anti-aliasing is a must for me for example. Watch_Dogs on console level with heavy aliasing and flickering for example is really bad compared to the PC version with the same settings but just good AA enabled. But then again, that's a question of your personal preferences and how much you value certain graphical effects. If you're happy with the "basic graphics level" delivering on console there is of course no need for a powerful PC. Good PCs are a luxury product for those who enjoy the best and can afford it.

 

[Mr. Barvo]

Depends on what you mean with "the same"... The game will definitely look better on PC on ultra settings (at 1080p and of course at higher resolutions...)

Well it doesn't seem so according to the developers. Of course you can always run at higher framerates and resolutions on PC but i got a hunch that the graphics won't look better. And btw. remember Watch dogs! Ubisoft probably downgraded the PC version so that the consol version would look better in comparision. I trust Cdprojektred more but i will still remember that the game can be downgraded.

 

[Scholdarr]

Well it doesn't seem so according to the developers. Of course you can always run at higher framerates and resolutions on PC but i got a hunch that the graphics won't look better. And btw. remember Watch dogs! Ubisoft probably downgraded the PC version so that the consol version would look better in comparision. I trust Cdprojektred more but i will still remember that the game can be downgraded.

Ubisoft "downgraded" the PC version because they weren't able to optimize it properly for the ultra settings in time for the release...everything else is unproven speculation. But even without the ultra-graphics people expected the game looks much better on PC than on next-gen consoles. Hell, the game looks even way better on my rather cheap (overclocked) Radeon HD7870 than it looks on next-genconsoles (decent AA alone is worth the PC version)...

And for CDPR you have to seperate statements based on features and on marketing. They always said that the PC version will be the best and that we will be able to push the graphics to the maximum. That's always their FIRST statement. Then they try to say that the console version will be good as well. That's always their SECOND statement. First is about actual facts and the game, the second is marketing in order to keep up the hype for console players.

RPG Site: What sort of differences will there be between the three platforms? Do you feel there'll be a noticeable difference in the final product?

Teixeria: Well, obviously the specs mean that there will be differences in what is released. With that said, we are absolutely trying to push for the best experience possible on each of the platforms. Certainly with PC, you can put a massive graphics card in there and push the settings to the max, of course - who doesn't love that?

In terms of consoles, we're really trying to give it our all... y'know, we'll push it as much as we can.

As for PC, CD Projekt plans to add an ultra setting that, according to Mamais, you'll need a beefy machine to use.

"But I think it'll be worth it," he said. "Our ultra is pretty much the peak in games. At least we hope it is. The stuff we're doing is going to look really amazing."

Witcher 3 on PC ultra settings adds better tessellation, more physics, more post-processing and more realistic fur, Mamais said.

By comparison, the graphics of the console versions are equivalent to high settings on PC.

To someone used to marketing speech in games these statements should be pretty clear. The PC version WILL look better than the console version given you have the proper hardware.

 

[Mr. Barvo]

Ubisoft "downgraded" the PC version because they weren't able to optimize it properly for the ultra settings in time for the release...everything else is unproven speculation. But even without the ultra-graphics people expected the game looks much better on PC than on next-gen consoles. Hell, the game looks even way better on my rather cheap (overclocked) Radeon HD7870 than it looks on next-genconsoles (decent AA alone is worth the PC version)...

Thats what i think as well. But when a modder fix those things with the same performance (and in some cases better, with some crashes) while simultaneously make it look much better. Then i doubt at that statement.

Either way i think cdprojekt wont do the same thing. But i think the difference between consol and PC wont be that noticible and therefore make the purchase of a high-end PC non rewarding, except for higher framerates etc.

What the hell is going on here?..i just don't get it..
Witcher 3 is going to have the PC version as best, with probably way better graphics, higher framerate, new technologies which are not going to be on consoles, the choice to play it with M+K or with gamepad (I prefer M+K in W2), probably mods, etc..

Well it is this we kinda speculate on... That the PC version wont look better and that the game will be consolified, which i fear but highly doubt.

 

[misho8723]

What the hell is going on here?..i just don't get it..

Ok, when you have a console, play on console.. when you have a PC and a console, play W3 on what platform you want.. if you have a PC, you don't have many reasons to go console .. i have 6-years old PC, and just because of W3 i'm planning to spend about 1000 Euros on a new PC.. i don't play on consoles, no one from my friends plays on consoles, my favorites genres are mostly on PC, i can do many thinks which i can't on consoles, i can choice to play games with gamepads or M+K, i can play them with better graphics and with higher framerates, use all kinds of mods, play them from my couch (which is my bed), etc..

Witcher 3 is going to have the PC version as best, with probably way better graphics, higher framerate, new technologies which are not going to be on consoles, the choice to play it with M+K or with gamepad (I prefer M+K in W2), probably mods, etc..

 

[Malvus]

Ubisoft "downgraded" the PC version because they weren't able to optimize it properly for the ultra settings in time for the release...everything else is unproven speculation. But even without the ultra-graphics people expected the game looks much better on PC than on next-gen consoles. Hell, the game looks even way better on my rather cheap (overclocked) Radeon HD7870 than it looks on next-genconsoles (decent AA alone is worth the PC version)...

And for CDPR you have to seperate statements based on features and on marketing. They always said that the PC version will be the best and that we will be able to push the graphics to the maximum. That's always their FIRST statement. Then they try to say that the console version will be good as well. That's always their SECOND statement. First is about actual facts and the game, the second is marketing in order to keep up the hype for console players.





To someone used to marketing speech in games these statements should be pretty clear. The PC version WILL look better than the console version given you have the proper hardware.

To be fair, all you said is speculation anyway. CDPR chose to work only with the PS4 & Xbox One because of their significantly more powerful hardware compared to PS3 & Xbox360, while Ubisoft had to also adapt it to all of those consoles, not just PC & next-gen hardware. They can't afford to make separate versions for each piece of hardware so they just add some extra post-processing to the PC & next-gen from the last-gen hardware version. That means we get only slightly better looking games and unoptimized, buggy and glitchy because they can't optimize either so we end up with ultra high end i7 and 780Ti rigs running it at 20 fps. This is CDPR, not Ubisoft which keeps hyping up games for pre-orders and that's it. CDPR cares for their games and their customers, they have impecable customer support and you can always count on their games to look even better than what they showed. Witcher 2 looks even better than it did as E3, can't say the same for Watch_Dogs or Far Cry 3, can you? Bottom line is, CDPR cares, so the least you can do in return, in my opinion at least, is show some trust. Also, might wanna cut down on the emoticons, this isn't Yahoo Messanger.

 

[Scholdarr]

To be fair, all you said is speculation anyway.

Agreed. All I said is based on what CDPR said. It's not based on something they've proven to us yet.

 

[karl_hummer]

Agreed. All I said is based on what CDPR said. It's not based on something they've proven to us yet .

You forgot the so I fixed it for you.

Also, might wanna cut down on the emoticons, this isn't Yahoo Messanger.

 

[thislsmadness]

If anything, I hope all this discussion will encourage CDPR to give us some detailed gameplay videos of the combat on high difficulty, as well as a peak at the new alchemy system. I think it would really help to allay some of the concern.

 

[yokokorama]

Most people here aren't really talking about the gameplay mechanics more so than the graphical fidelity of the game on a high-end rig vs. PS4 / Xbox One, though.

 

[archaven]

On topic, not to promote Dragon Age Inquisition, it seems that DAI has a separate PC interface and UI. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu9zkdExHh4. Hope CDPR will reveal something or confirm that PC will have OR will have not a different UI/Menus/Interface, customised K&M rather than keeping quiet and repeating that ALL platforms will have the best experience.

 

[Malvus]

Agreed. All I said is based on what CDPR said. It's not based on something they've proven to us yet.

Unless you got to play the game with a time machine, I doubt anyone will take you seriously. Besides, I doubt any of the Ultra features will make too much of an impact on graphics, except maybe for PhysX fur which will most likely make any GPUs lesser than SLI 780s combust in a ball of fire. http://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-witcher-3-current-gen-consoles-equivalent-to-pc-high-ultra-settings-the-peak-in-games/
I seriously doubt the gap between High and Ultra will be night and day, the PhysX stuff sounds nice but eh, only rich people can run that anyway. All we can do is wait and see, they still have a long way to go and the game already looks ALOT better since they upgraded RED Engine. They used a heavily modified RED Engine 2 in 2013 and they overhauled it completely in 2014 with RED Engine 3. The difference between 2 and 3 is night and day, it will only keep getting better.