I enjoyed Sleeping Dogs quite a bit. The DLC wasn't that much of a change up that I can recall, although I -did- get to play with Adam Jensen's armour and cyberarms, so pretty hawt.
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Yeah, one of them had ghosts. The other had you play as a street cop. Both were kind of meh compared to the main campaign and followed the same general rule of "CHASE SEQUENCE!/FIGHT SEQUENCE!/SHOOTING SEQUENCE!" that the main game adhered to, though tackling and handcuffing random strangers in the street cop one was at least a little entertaining.
Dude, There are 2 more DLC you are fogetting... one where you basically run through the tournament from Enter The Dragon, and another where you drive around in a [pimped out armed supercar...
Sleeping Dogs rocked, anyone who didn't like I have serious trust issues with...
I mean I had complaints with some minor things, but the game was brilliant.
Sleeping Dogs rocked, anyone who didn't like I have serious trust issues with...
I mean I had complaints with some minor things, but the game was brilliant.
That will be a disappointment. Poison makes him stronger.Here Wisdom have a cookie. It is not poisoned I promise
Yeah, but I thought we were talking specifically about the DLC separate from the base game.
Anyway, I was going to ignore your earlier reply until I saw that you said that Tomb Raider's story was "strong enough." Were you drunk when you played it? Did we play different games? Seriously; I called every heroic sacrifice in the game but one before Lara had even gotten a bow yet, and even if it wasn't all telegraphed, Lara's character development was an absolute disaster and the game relied on a disgusting amount of scripted events.
Sometimes I think that I'm just easy to please when people hate on Remember Me, but I didn't even make it to the end of Tomb Raider. One of the worst games I've played in the past ten years, without a doubt.
2013 was a really weak year for games in general, though.
I'm seriously wondering what you all saw in it. Did you like the characters? The controls? The platforming? The premise? I hated everything from the QTEs to the fact that everything the main character touched fell apart or exploded in totally random ways, so I'm legitimately curious about what people saw in it (because a lot of people seemed to like it, both here and elsewhere).
Weren't any of you annoyed by how little characterization all of the characters received? They just... existed, and a lot of times they only did so to pointlessly die later on. They felt like cheap emotional landmines thrown in to incite artificial emotional reactions to their deaths, and the transparency of the whole thing pissed me off more than anything. Honestly, I thought that Far Cry 3 pulled off the whole "stranded on a dangerous island surrounded by enemies" thing a lot better, especially in terms of how well-written the characters ended up being in that game, so the lack of detailed characters was a serious disappointment for me in Tomb Raider.
And those scripted events! They were just so awkward. The one in the river in particular; I got killed by tree trunks that I was nowhere near, and a quick time event to pull your parachute? It just felt so... game-y without any payoff. Oh, and later in the game when you get the grenade launcher and have to shoot at that guy who's shooting at you? I shot it right at him and died. Not once. Not twice. Like fifteen times in a row. I still don't know why, but I finally passed it by shooting behind him instead of at him. The whole system just feels so finicky and random without any story payoff.
I don't know. Different strokes like Wisdom said, I guess.
I'm seriously wondering what you all saw in it. Did you like the characters? The controls? The platforming? The premise? I hated everything from the QTEs to the fact that everything the main character touched fell apart or exploded in totally random ways, so I'm legitimately curious about what people saw in it (because a lot of people seemed to like it, both here and elsewhere).
Weren't any of you annoyed by how little characterization all of the characters received? They just... existed, and a lot of times they only did so to pointlessly die later on. They felt like cheap emotional landmines thrown in to incite artificial emotional reactions to their deaths, and the transparency of the whole thing pissed me off more than anything. Honestly, I thought that Far Cry 3 pulled off the whole "stranded on a dangerous island surrounded by enemies" thing a lot better, especially in terms of how well-written the characters ended up being in that game, so the lack of detailed characters was a serious disappointment for me in Tomb Raider.
And those scripted events! They were just so awkward. The one in the river in particular; I got killed by tree trunks that I was nowhere near, and a quick time event to pull your parachute? It just felt so... game-y without any payoff. Oh, and later in the game when you get the grenade launcher and have to shoot at that guy who's shooting at you? I shot it right at him and died. Not once. Not twice. Like fifteen times in a row. I still don't know why, but I finally passed it by shooting behind him instead of at him. The whole system just feels so finicky and random without any story payoff.
I don't know. Different strokes like Wisdom said, I guess.
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Actually I liked the characterization... NPC's in a game like this are there to be cannon fodder... these cannon fodder had far more personality than was required, so it worked out well.
The controls were what was to be expected from the series, and were just fine.
The fact that shit fell apat when touched made sense to me, since the whole place was a rotting neglected ancient mess... it would make less sense to me if it didn't all fall apart.
The river thing was pretty bad... though the death scenes were greusome enough that you wanted to see it at least once... In the end it wasn't too difficult to get through, and over-all I dug the stealth elements and the level of filth that I though reflected soem true horror...
Yeah, I really dug the game, not sure what you are expecting from a game... but I hahd no real complaints with it. I mean I have no interest in paying for any of the crappy dlc they put out for it, but the game itself was just fine.
The controls were what was to be expected from the series, and were just fine.
The fact that shit fell apat when touched made sense to me, since the whole place was a rotting neglected ancient mess... it would make less sense to me if it didn't all fall apart.
The river thing was pretty bad... though the death scenes were greusome enough that you wanted to see it at least once... In the end it wasn't too difficult to get through, and over-all I dug the stealth elements and the level of filth that I though reflected soem true horror...
Yeah, I really dug the game, not sure what you are expecting from a game... but I hahd no real complaints with it. I mean I have no interest in paying for any of the crappy dlc they put out for it, but the game itself was just fine.
Tomb Raider had solid controls. Everything from shooting to climbing felt smooth and consistent. It was a pretty game with good pacing, fun action, and interesting upgrades. Sure the writing was cliche as hell, but I went into it knowing I'd get a Hollywood inspired story and a fair bit of QTE's. When I looked past those two things, I experienced a very fun game.
"Give me an audience with mediocre expectations and I am a god", to quote Brandon Sanderson's character Wit in his Stormlight books.
This is so true. Some of my best times are from when I went in expecting little or just, you know, average and was really surprised by the experience.
A friend of mine, and ex-Cyberpunk player from The Day, had no idea what the Matrix was about at all when he walked into the theater. Saw the poster and figured he could stomach Keanu Reaves for at least an hour or two. Was totally blown away.
I had the same attitude for TR, SRR and Thief, off the top of my head. I had hopes it wouldn't be terrible but little expectations. Enjoyed all three quite a bit.
Yup... I knew it wasn't gonna be the best game ever, it wasn't a sandbox game so there was no chance of that happenning. But I was pleasently surprised at how much I did enjoy the game.
And no one else thinks it's a double standard to criticize Bioshock Infinite's characters for being "utterly forgettable" while giving Tomb Raider a pass because its characters apparently had more personality than the bare minimum required?
It's not like I had any expectations going in to TR. I mean, I played it after Binary Domain, so anything better than pregnant robots would have been acceptable. Instead, I got cannon fodder wandering around Rube Goldberg-esque ruins while crying to try and play at my "save the damsel in distress" reflex. But hey, I guess there really is no accounting for taste.
It's not like I had any expectations going in to TR. I mean, I played it after Binary Domain, so anything better than pregnant robots would have been acceptable. Instead, I got cannon fodder wandering around Rube Goldberg-esque ruins while crying to try and play at my "save the damsel in distress" reflex. But hey, I guess there really is no accounting for taste.
Did I say I remembered the Tomb Raider secondary characters.... nope... they are prettty forgetable too, obviously, because I have forgotten them...
But the TR game was better, more coherent, better controls, and in the end, you actually felt like you accomplished something... as opposed to Bioshock, where the ending just made the whole game pointless.
I remember Bioshock's characters quite well, thanks. The crazy duo, the crazy creator, the crazy Workers Unite people...wait, 'm sensing a theme.
Anyway, Bioshock advertised a lot more than what was a reboot of a dungeon-platformer. Tomb Raider did have a couple pretty amusing characters. i totally liked reading through the bios and finding out what a shit the journalist was, and for him to prove out being a shit later. I enjoyed it when your friends, all lovey-dovey and close to you, got all freaked out later when you showed up in full kill-mode.
I liked the big guy with the muscle shirt, too. He was cuddly!
Anyway, Bioshock advertised a lot more than what was a reboot of a dungeon-platformer. Tomb Raider did have a couple pretty amusing characters. i totally liked reading through the bios and finding out what a shit the journalist was, and for him to prove out being a shit later. I enjoyed it when your friends, all lovey-dovey and close to you, got all freaked out later when you showed up in full kill-mode.
I liked the big guy with the muscle shirt, too. He was cuddly!