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Jerusalem Post considers The Witcher "immoral"

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ausir

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Feb 20, 2008
Jerusalem Post considers The Witcher "immoral"

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201070793235&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
The game is offered at three levels of difficulty, with the option of using your mouse only or it and the keyboard. But you must have a strong computer to use it, and even if you do, the load time from one scene to another is very long, and frequent crashes are nearly inevitable. If you get through it all, it will take you about 45, 50 or even 60 hours to finish. The background music is stirring, voice acting believable, graphics impressive and sound effects authentic. But while there is an interesting story line, the game reeks of perversion.
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Seeker.217

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Feb 20, 2008
These are the same kind of ppl that would want Harry Potter ban form school and library if they had there way
 
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username_2060624

Senior user
#3
Feb 21, 2008
Hi guys, first time on english forum :)First of all i can understand the ppl who hates the witcher for any reason. The only thing that really p*** me off is compalining about the witcher cuz:a) it is misoginic (its totally false- any one who play the game knows that misoginists in game are always negative characters or silly peaple)b) it has immoral sex scene. Oh, I'm sory! Whats wrong with that? The world in this universe is immoral with its racism, alcoholism, genocide and misoginism. Its story tells the events after war, when normal morality collapsed after the horrors it bringed to Northern Kingdoms. States- devastated, minds- corrupted, hope for better tommorow- fallen. So what kind of behavior should be typical for NPC's from such a world? A virgin-like gentelman kissing ladies hands? Its immoral? YES! Is it pervertion? No, its realism! I see even more pervertion in alien sex scene in ME, which is some kind of zoophilia. Besides why choping heads of in other computer games is thouth of being much moral than that?Sory for english, i hope u understand this :)
 
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501105

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#4
Feb 21, 2008
Seeing the Witcher`s age rating what did they expect a cute and colouful game?
 
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username_2071380

Senior user
#5
Mar 23, 2008
*shrug* I find the Jerusalem Post offensive. Go figure.~ Roxy
 
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darmoth

Senior user
#6
May 4, 2008
Obviously, we're doing something right!!! ;D
 
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bateluer

Senior user
#7
May 8, 2008
Darmoth said:
Obviously, we're doing something right!!! ;D
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My sentiments exactly. When I see a Mature rating on a game, I expect it to have mature content and not pander to the kiddies or puritan sensibilities.
 
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username_2075628

Senior user
#8
May 10, 2008
I don't think witcher is immorale game , you can see ten times worse things in movies and TV series not to mentioned news with plenty of dead bodies . There's something weird in the world in which real life wiolence is OK and sex and wiolence in the games are bad . The only thing that may bother someone is distribution since minors always find the way to get 18+ things like porns and alcohol for instance , but that's not reason for censorship like in USA , they should just better controll the selling of the product .
 
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witcherwomangs

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#9
May 10, 2008
Haha! it says on the review "techical rating - 5; Moral rating - 0" That's just too funny! as if we need a moral rating in order to determine the "goodness" in our games! puhlease!
 
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Seeker.217

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May 10, 2008
What to you expect from a newsgroup that's far left or far right wing :D
 
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username_2075278

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#11
May 10, 2008
WitcherWomanGS said:
Haha! it says on the review "techical rating - 5; Moral rating - 0" That's just too funny! as if we need a moral rating in order to determine the "goodness" in our games! puhlease!
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The thing is, I think The Witcher is an extremely moral game.The sex thing is irrelevant. Geralt is no rapist and no paedophile; he has sex, but always with willing, adult partners. Is that 'immoral'? I don't think so.What Geralt does do is try to do good in a complex, morally ambiguous world, and live with the consequences of his own decisions. That seems to me positively moral.
 
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username_17

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#12
May 11, 2008
Ha,ha,ha ;Dand I thought, the silly and serious politic has her home in Germany. ]:->
 
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m_dorian

Senior user
#13
May 12, 2008
Who decides what's moral and what is not. Not Jerusalem Post ofcourse unless they have a guy there who can communicate with our Maker and take guidance from Him.But i don't think He would ever bother Himself with the morality of the Witcher or any other game.Jerusalem Post (and any other moral Judge) is rubbish.
 
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trughbull

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#14
May 13, 2008
I followed Ausir's link to read for myself what was said. I had to laugh at the "Meet Jewish Girls" ads flashing at me from the pop-ups while I tried to determine just what this paper considered "perversive". Evidently Geralt and Co.'s sexual behaviour is "perverse", but this newspaper finds it "acceptable" to collect ad revenue from thousands of unmarried Jewish ladies that never go to synagogue, do not keep kosher food, and are looking for "casual" relationships with "generous, fun loving" men aged 21-99. ::)I am assuming the ability to "fog a mirror" is desireable, but it was not stated as "required".I hate cliche's, but one has to ponder the following question in light of this paper's obvious attempt to throw bricks at The Witcher's black pot ..."Perhaps people who live in transparent domiciles should not make comments on the color of other people's cookware?" :wall:One day, our scientists are going to discover the truth about why the world turns.It is not gravity.Grade school physics teaches us - "For every action there must be an equal and opposite reaction". With all that "in-out" motion that never actually "goes" anywhere, the only thing connected to the billions and billions of constantly moving, but solidly stationary obects participating in "the act" ... is ... the earth itself. It HAS to turn! How else could it absorb the TETRA-MEGA-GIGA-tons of force generated by BILLIONS of bodies trying to brace themselves against the planet to leverage the energy needed to get to "heaven" a few, short, stroking centimeters at a time? If it did NOT turn, ... the damn thing would HAVE to burst into flames! The friction alone ... ahh but the heat of arousal ... another topic ... another time. For now ...People ****. < (fornicate). ::)Celibate people **** perversely. :eek:It is what makes the world go 'round. :pI say the world would be a better place if we all just took her for a "spin". ;)Not that we have a choice, but .... "ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ;D
 
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Corylea.723

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May 13, 2008
[quote author=Simon Brooke link=topic=10644.msg302653#msg302653]The thing is, I think The Witcher is an extremely moral game.The sex thing is irrelevant. Geralt is no rapist and no paedophile; he has sex, but always with willing, adult partners. Is that 'immoral'? I don't think so.What Geralt does do is try to do good in a complex, morally ambiguous world, and live with the consequences of his own decisions. That seems to me positively moral.[/QUOTE]I agree. Geralt is asked to make a lot of decisions when the information for making that decision is contradictory or ambiguous. The storytelling in the game is good enough that players think hard about what's right, and you can tell it matters to people by the length of the "Is Abigail bad?" thread. People really want to know if they made the right decision about Abigail vs. the townspeople. Getting people to think about moral choices -- what's right, and what's wrong, and how do you know -- makes this game a moral simulator at least as much as a hack-and-slash RPG.That's part of why I like this game so much -- I LIKE thinking about moral questions.As for sex, *yawn* Not that sex itself bores me :), just that the ranting about it does. People have sex. YOU wouldn't be here if they didn't. But if sex offends you, we give you permission not to have any. :)[Er, just to be clear, that last sentence wasn't directed at the person I'm quoting, who is one of the Good Guys, as far as I can tell. It was directed against the self-appointed judges of others' morality.]
 
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Seeker.217

Ex-moderator
#16
May 13, 2008
self-appointed judges of others' morality
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@ Corylea Don't you just love those ppl I can only speak for myself but I'm a bit to old to be told what is right and what is wrong I can judge for myself.The real kick in the head about all this is that the sex part of the game is not that big of a deal for one it has a M rateing for Mature not T for Teens as well as the sex in not really force on one you have the opp in most cases to say no.
 
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Corylea.723

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#17
May 13, 2008
Trughbull said:
One day, our scientists are going to discover the truth about why the world turns.It is not gravity.
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Trughbull, I believe you just took a lot of words to say "Love makes the world go 'round." *smile*
 
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olusegun

Senior user
#18
May 13, 2008
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is stoned to death... Not that I'm implying that the non-ee witcher is analogous to a one-eyed man but...Ah heck you'll get my point.Or not :)
 
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trughbull

Senior user
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May 13, 2008
Corylea said:
Trughbull, I believe you just took a lot of words to say that love makes the world go 'round. *smile*
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(sigh) Jeesh, Corylea, I was shootin' for somethin' ... "earthier" ... than that (looks up "****" in dictionary to see if it changed when he wasn't lookin')."What's love something? something? !" - Tina Turner (absently fingers 4 inch wide strip of green latex on his left thigh that will be there 'till the day he f'n dies thank you very much!)
 
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Corylea.723

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May 13, 2008
Trughbull said:
(sigh) Jeesh, Corylea, I was shootin' for somethin' ... "earthier" ...
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Those old songs often used "love" when they meant something earthier. Haven't you ever heard Ella Fitzgerald sing, "Birds do it, Bees do it, Even educated fleas do it, Let's do it, Let's fall in love." Just in case anybody missed his meaning, Mr. Porter put the birds and bees in up front. :)
 
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