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Judy should have been bisexual, romance feels so lacking

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Sysko

Sysko

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#101
Dec 18, 2020
Ashii said:
As a lesbian I'm just grateful that we have a proper representation and a very nice love interest in a game like this. People can always play as female V if they want romance Judy, but wanting to take that representation from us is seriously not okay.
Playersexual romances idea is pretty damn shallow in rpgs, that's why even BioWare changed their minds after Dragon Age 2 and brought back LIs with preferences.
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Agreed, and it gives a lot more player agency in that regard.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#102
Dec 18, 2020
As I said many times before. I'm 100% fine with lack of playersexuality, but please make all the options equal quality then pls. And no I'm not meaning to downgrade all to the lowest standard.
 
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WildOrchid

WildOrchid

Forum regular
#103
Dec 18, 2020
charlietheunicorn said:
I really hope they don't go back and change the romanceable NPCs to swing either way. Don't wanna spoil anything but it's pretty clear that Judy is into the ladies even before the game confirms it. I imagine it's the same for other NPCs, have yet experience those.
And yes I OBVIOUSLY tried to get it on with Panam as well, but wasn't surprised when she friendzoned me. :LOL:
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Yup. With Panam you don't really know her preferences until when you make a move as lady V. Judy's preferences are all over the game if you listen to her, read messages etc. Way before you romance her. She constantly mentions women only. Now if you say you didn't know, yeah nah you just decided to ignore it and think that maybe shes into men which is hilarious.

(not directed to you fyi lol)
 
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Vejsa

Vejsa

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#104
Dec 18, 2020
WildOrchid said:
Yup. With Panam you don't really know her preferences until when you make a move as lady V. Judy's preferences are all over the game if you listen to her, read messages etc. Way before you romance her. She constantly mentions women only. Now if you say you didn't know, yeah nah you just decided to ignore it and think that maybe shes into men which is hilarious.

(not directed to you fyi lol)
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Too many people think with their genitals and not their brains, so they see Judy and be like "ugh i need to bone her". Then they complain that she's lesbian. And then they demand that it's changed. But nobody seems to find issues with these kind of threads? They don't offer anything constructive.
 
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WildOrchid

WildOrchid

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#105
Dec 18, 2020
Vejsa said:
Too many people think with their genitals and not their brains, so they see Judy and be like "ugh i need to bone her". Then they complain that she's lesbian. And then they demand that it's changed. But nobody seems to find issues with these kind of threads? They don't offer anything constructive.
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Sadly it's just like in reality. Most men think like that with lesbians "maybe with the right man she'll be into it" shit and all that. It's frustrating to see it. And yes i've had those men tell me that, way more that i've lost count.

So yeah not surprising it'd be the same when a dude tries to romance Judy.
 
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Vejsa

Vejsa

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#106
Dec 18, 2020
WildOrchid said:
Sadly it's just like in reality. Most men think like that with lesbians "maybe with the right man she'll be into it" shit and all that. It's frustrating to see it. And yes i've had those men tell me that, way more that i've lost count.

So yeah not surprising it'd be the same when a dude tries to romance Judy.
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Yep, I get that all the time from men. Doesn't surprise me it's even in the forums here. I just wish they could see that a character has been written as a lesbian and the erasure of that identity is not a good look for them or CDPR. It's downright offensive.
 
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Xayias

Xayias

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#107
Dec 18, 2020
Vejsa said:
Too many people think with their genitals and not their brains, so they see Judy and be like "ugh i need to bone her". Then they complain that she's lesbian. And then they demand that it's changed. But nobody seems to find issues with these kind of threads? They don't offer anything constructive.
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Judy is attractive for sure but there is a very deep and sad story behind her which was a surprising arc to delve into. All I hear from the Panam people is things about her ass which for me is :shrug:
 
Bigtomhanks

Bigtomhanks

Fresh user
#108
Dec 18, 2020
For me it comes down to the CHOICE of choosing who you want to romance. Regardless of wether you made FemV or MaleV. The diving mission was really damn cool though.
 
WildOrchid

WildOrchid

Forum regular
#109
Dec 18, 2020
Xayias said:
Judy is attractive for sure but there is a very deep and sad story behind her which was a surprising arc to delve into. All I hear from the Panam people is things about her ass which for me is :shrug:
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Yeah i get it, she's very much attractive and I get it that men are into her which is normal. But asking to change her sexuality? To change what makes her who she is as a person? Nah my dudes, that's not how it should be.
 
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Vejsa

Vejsa

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#110
Dec 18, 2020
Bigtomhanks said:
For me it comes down to the CHOICE of choosing who you want to romance. Regardless of wether you made FemV or MaleV. The diving mission was really damn cool though.
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You should have a choice of who to romance, but not a choice of character sexuality. If you try to romance someone ingame and they reject you as you don't meet the requirements? Good. Realism. It's a game where we live in the world, the world doesn't revolve around V.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#111
Dec 18, 2020
Xayias said:
Judy is attractive for sure but there is a very deep and sad story behind her which was a surprising arc to delve into. All I hear from the Panam people is things about her ass which for me is :shrug:
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I mean that is pretty much what most straight guys will care about for in romances in games. No offence.
 
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Bigtomhanks

Bigtomhanks

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#112
Dec 18, 2020
Vejsa said:
You should have a choice of who to romance, but not a choice of character sexuality. If you try to romance someone ingame and they reject you as you don't meet the requirements? Good. Realism. It's a game where we live in the world, the world doesn't revolve around V.
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I dont disagree with this either really. I was SUPER surprised when Panam rejected me lol. The option to push the romance was there,I did not expect the rejection. I was like dammit. XD
 
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Xayias

Xayias

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#113
Dec 18, 2020
Kikinho said:
I mean that is pretty much what most straight guys will care about for in romances in games. No offence.
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It is all good, even though I am a straight male there just needs to be more substance behind just the looks of a person or what is the point of putting hours into content that won't matter for you? I have been in a situation in real life where I had feelings for one of my good friends who recently has been exploring her sexuality and even though it kind of sucks dealing with those feelings you just have to move on.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#114
Dec 18, 2020
Xayias said:
It is all good, even though I am a straight male there just needs to be more substance behind just the looks of a person or what is the point of putting hours into content that won't matter for you? I have been in a situation in real life where I had feelings for one of my good friends who recently has been exploring her sexuality and even though it kind of sucks dealing with those feelings you just have to move on.
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As a gay guy, I can't tell you how many crushes I had on straight guys who either turned me down straight out, or just faded into hopelessness. It's a difficult and interesting topic on it's own imo and something that could easily be explored in a story medium.
 
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Xayias

Xayias

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#115
Dec 18, 2020
Kikinho said:
As a gay guy, I can't tell you how many crushes I had on straight guys who either turned me down straight out, or just faded into hopelessness. It's a difficult and interesting topic on it's own imo and something that could easily be explored in a story medium.
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That is what makes the whole NPC preferences great, I lucked out by choosing a female in game (I really just wanted a character that looked good when I took photos for photo mode). At the end of the day a player should be able to pick a female if they want to romance Judy no issue. :coolstory:
 
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WildOrchid

WildOrchid

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#116
Dec 18, 2020
What i'd also really like in future DLCs is add more romance content for all the 4 existing love interests in the game and 2 bisexuals, one man one woman because let's be real, the only bisexual in the game was a joke tbh.
 
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emrehan98

emrehan98

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#117
Dec 18, 2020
Changing sexual orientation would be a terrible choice just because players want it. I mean, it would be major scandal for the company after PS4 disaster. The game is released now, people recognized Judy as her identity. In addition, NPC's rejection of the player also good for immersion. I have sympathy for Judy, she is cute and very deep person and I'm ok with her prefences / who she is.

But more romance options would be better. It's not good that Panam is the only decent option for straight men even though I loved her.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#118
Dec 18, 2020
emrehan98 said:
Changing sexual orientation would be a terrible choice just because players want it. I mean, it would be major scandal for the company after PS4 disaster. The game is released now, people recognized Judy as her identity. In addition, NPC's rejection of the player also good for immersion. I have sympathy for Judy, she is cute and very deep person and I'm ok with her prefences / who she is.

But more romance options would be better. It's not good that Panam is the only decent option for straight men even though I loved her.
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I was fine with Kerry because I had no other option. But knowing that we have characters with stories and personalities like Panam and Judy, and from what I've read even River is super charming, I feel wanting more for the male gay option.
 
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farre40

farre40

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#119
Dec 18, 2020
SeriousSteven said:
real wished judy was bisexual cause except for Judy all the other romance options are treated like 2nd rates and is pretty lacking with story or emotion like for panams quest with her is way to quick and after her last mission you two basically dont even talk with each other unlike judy which has a longer quest line compare to all of the romance options even after her last mission she still calls you text you or even add few story about some events happening when you call her, panam still the best girl tho its just that her romance arc feels so lacking and rushed it needs more opening with each other like judys mission when you went swimming that was really good and also quite depressing if you play as Male V, so ya except for judy, romance ingame is way to empty.
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Just star a game as Fem V dude, stop wanting to control NPC's sexuality.
Yes it can be a bit disappointing, but it's the same in real life, no everyone is going to fall down on your feet, even if you're a famous person or something like that.
I feel the romance it's quite good in the game, for either Male or Female V they're a lot of options.
 
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Myajha

Myajha

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#120
Dec 18, 2020
All the romance options sexuality doesn't bother me except one. Panam's, and it's not really her sexuality that bothers me.

See the others, Judy included, fine they have their preferences. Great, it really doesn't matter in the storyline whether you romance them or not. Judy kind of sort of, changes one part of the ending, but not really. She just gets more screen time at the end then the other romance options, but really it's just fan service, nothing more. But really, meh, let them have their sexuality.

Panam's on the other hand, seems to neuter her story slightly, all in the name of making her straight. She's literally central in part of the main quest, and if you do her side quest, is the only romance option that a real part in the final quest and ending.

But for some reason a female V can't experience the full Panam storyline, because.. well... the devs decided to arbitrarily make her straight. As a female V I hate it when you don't have the option to experience an entire part of the main storyline because some troglodyte decided to gender lock it.
 
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