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Kayran - is there any cheat?

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markcamp

Senior user
#81
May 1, 2012
dragonbird said:
It's more satisfying to do without, but I'd rather see someone use a cheat than give up the game just because of one nasty kayran :)
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Could not agree more.
 
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Windebieste

Forum regular
#82
May 3, 2012
Oh, I hated this section of the game. Just hated it...

I can fully appreciate why people refuse to play passed this point. Especially in a RPG where the real fun of the game is contained in the statistical manipulation of character development to resolve combat issues. All that careful customising comes to a screeching senseless halt for the sake of a single scene that acts as a road block to the player's narrative progression for the sake of a Quick Time Event that is really counter to the rest of the gameplay. Gah. If I want QTE's I'll go train on a typing tutor; or go I'll go play 'Jurassic Park - The Game' - and look how that turned out. QTE stuff = Fail.

All the same, after a couple evenings of miserable attempts, I vanquished the beast.

Thankfully, you can turn off the 'Difficult QTE's in the Main Menu > Options. This will make the fight a LOT easier. Especially if you've taken the time to figure out how to lop off each tentacle without walkthroughs and help hints. You don't need the nonsensical prolonged QTE rubbish as well once you've achieved that task - especially considering how difficult this boss is so early in the game. As far as I am concerned, that's the best way to do it.

On a related note:

What..? Sharing save game files across the internet so that someone else can beat it for you? No. That's not a sign of your inability to play the game. It is an indication that the game itself has a problem.

Stupid game design is stupid.
 
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steelbom

Rookie
#83
May 3, 2012
windebieste said:
Oh, I hated this section of the game. Just hated it...

I can fully appreciate why people refuse to play passed this point. Especially in a RPG where the real fun of the game is contained in the statistical manipulation of character development to resolve combat issues. All that careful customising comes to a screeching senseless halt for the sake of a single scene that acts as a road block to the player's narrative progression for the sake of a Quick Time Event that is really counter to the rest of the gameplay. Gah. If I want QTE's I'll go train on a typing tutor; or go I'll go play 'Jurassic Park - The Game' - and look how that turned out. QTE stuff = Fail.

All the same, after a couple evenings of miserable attempts, I vanquished the beast.

Thankfully, you can turn off the 'Difficult QTE's in the Main Menu > Options. This will make the fight a LOT easier. Especially if you've taken the time to figure out how to lop off each tentacle without walkthroughs and help hints. You don't need the nonsensical prolonged QTE rubbish as well once you've achieved that task - especially considering how difficult this boss is so early in the game. As far as I am concerned, that's the best way to do it.

On a related note:

What..? Sharing save game files across the internet so that someone else can beat it for you? No. That's not a sign of your inability to play the game. It is an indication that the game itself has a problem.

Stupid game design is stupid.
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There's nothing wrong with the design of the game. The boss fights are supposed to be difficult, and if you find it too difficult and aren't interested in putting in the effort to get past it, just lower the difficulty.

All you need to do is observe the Kayran's movements and figure out when you've got time to put the Yrden down and when you should just roll and wait, and also where to hide while it's having one of its tentacle slamming fits after you've cut one of its tentacles off.

There's just some people who aren't interested in a difficult boss fight and just want to cruise through the game, which is absolutely fine, and in that case you should turn "Difficult QTE's" off, and play on easy.

I'm on Dark Mode and I find the Kayran too easy, I've not played in a while but it took me about eight attempts to refresh my memory about how to beat it, and I did so without Quen as well. Before the EE the Kayran would throw boulders at you at a much faster interval than it does now, which makes that part too easy in my opinion.
 
yayodeanno.831

yayodeanno.831

Forum veteran
#84
May 3, 2012
My first playthrough was almost a year ago on Hard mode, it took me prolly over twenty attempts to kill the Kayran, QTE's were a pain in the ass because the pc on screen prompts are so frigging small and the color isn't in contrast with the background (XBox players are much luckier with their colored buttons) The part that sucked the most was when you finished the QTE's and weren't given a clue as what to do next, if you got killed while running around you had to do the whole fight from the start (an auto save would have been nice). I'm doing my second playthrough currently, on Dark mode, and yesterday I got to the Kayran fight again, it took me three-four attempts, I got killed a couple of times but then I just got the hang of it, I managed to cut two tentacles without even using Yrden. It's not a really hard fight, one just has to aproach it the right way, but yup, the QTE prompts still suck.
 
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Windebieste

Forum regular
#85
May 4, 2012
No, it's not a particularly difficult fight once you understand how to deal with the monster and develop a strategy for it - and that is where that scene actually works.

I just can't comprehend why the developer would even think that QTE content is even appropriate for this game? QTE's have no bearing on the native RPG game mechanics at all and in this instance people are finding them to be such a road block to progress, they do little more than infuriate.

Build your character, drink potions, cast signs... Customise your choices to deal with the situation? Pah... forget about it. It's all for naught coz QTE's are what you will need get you passed that situation.

Where's my potion for enhanced QTE? ...or a Sign that increases the duration of the QTE onscreen? ...or a character trait that improves QTE ability? No. None of the establishe RP elements are catered for. QTE's are at complete odds with the rest of the gameplay and not at all necessary, anyway.

So yes. I do have them switched off now; and the game IS a great deal better for it.

Anyway, all said and done, I got passed the monster. The rest of the game is an absolute joy to play.
 
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malanu

Rookie
#86
May 16, 2012
Hey Guy, Will your walk thru work on an XBox you think? I don't have hot keys so switching between spells is a bit... cumbersome. The Dang beast has killed me 6 or 7 times on easy! I don't die that many times on easy in any game much less one fight!
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#87
May 17, 2012
Yeah, not being able to key each sign directly is a lot more cumbersome. Your ability to make a timely cast of Quen can be a lifesaver. I'd suggest leaving your selection on Quen, then when you are going to cast Yrden to trap a tentacle:

Cast Quen, if you don't already have Quen working.
Switch to Yrden as you jink to the trapping point.
Cast Yrden and immediately switch back to Quen.

Once you have trapped three of the tentacles, you don't need Yrden anymore. (If you made the trap, it will take out one tentacle, and you will only need Yrden twice.)
 
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malanu

Rookie
#88
May 17, 2012
Thanks Guy... Did I mention I have what is politely referred to as Hamfists? Cast/switch/cast is going to take me a good bit of luck I think!

Thank you though, you are very helpful!

Very helpful indeed! I wasted the beast with no trouble! Thanks again!
 
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ika88

Rookie
#89
Jul 7, 2012
Hey Guys, I have a problem .. My Geralt doesn’t walk as fast as usual so far, but walk slowly, and when I want to fight with the Kayran, he does not arrive in time to escape .. I do not know what to do, everything else normally works, but I think it's a software problem here .. :(
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#90
Jul 7, 2012
He isn't overburdened, is he? More load than he can carry slows him down (but you'll also get a warning on screen). The other possibility is you have him stuck in walk mode. (Caps Lock toggles between walk-always and run-always.)

If it's not either of these, try exiting the game and reloading.
 
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ika88

Rookie
#91
Jul 8, 2012
Thank you very much! :)
 
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saffire

Senior user
#92
Aug 12, 2012
hrehatschek said:
Actually I developed my sword skills not the sign skills ... and I do not want to play all again ... casting spells with the hot keys does not bring me any further so far, quen is only active 30 seconds, sometimes less when I am hit. And when I cast Yrden, quen is gone, and usually then I am hit. I use sideway rolling all the time, but it is very hard and only by luck I do not get hit. Also I lose completely the directions when the game stops in between and shows a sequence of the bridge falling apart, when it returns, I usually get lost and run into the beast. After having tried it now nearly 200 times I will give up and wait for a cheat or simply delete the game ... sorry, but for such a sequence I have absolutely no understanding ...
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I feel the same way, except there are no cheats for the xbox. If I wanted ti die, die and die again I could go back to Dark Souls.
 
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Pjovejas

Rookie
#93
Aug 12, 2012
About the Kayran: you can hide behind the statue on the left to recover vigor and HP. Then you can turn-off so called "hard QTEs" if you don't like to finish the fight half dead only to be surprised by that annoying QTE picture "now click zilion times the left mouse button, and now you have 0,5 s to click space bar" :) To do this, click the gameplay menu and turn-off those difficult QTE. Then there will be only video instead of mouse clicking :).
 
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eldarion

Forum regular
#94
Aug 27, 2012
Hi guys i have problem my PC is too slow so i can not kill kayran because i always fall down, i play it on dark mode so is there somebody who can help me to kill it here's me save http://ulozto.cz/xuuFWnM/autosave-0080-sav
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#95
Aug 27, 2012
honzamares1 said:
Hi guys i have problem my PC is too slow so i can not kill kayran because i always fall down, i play it on dark mode so is there somebody who can help me to kill it here's me save http://ulozto.cz/xuuFWnM/autosave-0080-sav
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Are you using my Dark Mode Effects mod?

If not, you're using a Dark Mode sword without the rest of the dark mode equipment, which means you're taking permanent damage through the fight. You may find it easier if you switch to a different sword and try again. (I've just spent 10 minutes on your file and can't win. I'm going to try again with the mod in place, but right now it's an extremely challenging setup)

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OK. Here you go.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3716596/QuickSave.sav

Don't forget to loot, level up and collect your reward.
I also turned off difficult QTE. I'm not sure if that's carried through in a save, so you may need to check. And if you're not using my effects mod, I suggest you change your silver sword as soon as possible.
 
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eldarion

Forum regular
#96
Aug 27, 2012
thx
 
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brandall

Rookie
#97
Sep 8, 2012
anyone ,,,help...:/...i cant kill Kayran,,,,
 
tommy5761

tommy5761

Mentor
#98
Sep 8, 2012
brandall said:
anyone ,,,help...:/...i cant kill Kayran,,,,
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Upload your save somewhere and post the link here and i`m sure someone will help you out .
 
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hamilkar86

Rookie
#99
Sep 20, 2012
Hi, can anyone please play this for me?? Probably something wrong in my game or with my hands

http://www.ulozto.cz/xC4LEh1/gamesaves-rar
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#100
Sep 21, 2012
Hamilkar86 said:
Hi, can anyone play this for me?? Probably something wrong in my game or with my hands
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Here you go.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3716596/ManualSave_0066.sav

Don't forget to level up, loot and collect your reward.
 
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